Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, May 6, 2019< ^ >
zinid has set the subject to: ejabberd discussions: https://docs.ejabberd.im
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[05:53:02] <zinid> mightyBroccoli, yes
[05:53:15] <zinid> ah, I think it's broken...
[05:53:50] <reset> > ah, I think it's broken...
🙃
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[07:40:26] <reset> 🙃
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[08:02:34] <nz> > nz, just set `default_db: sql` globally
zinid: [or anyone who knows] to use psql globally how do I do so? Where is the default_db setting or where should it go? And does that apply it to everything? [mam, authentication, etc?] what happens to /var/lib/ejabberd/ once I use psql? Can it be removed entirely? And is it still necessary to import pg.sql beforehand? Thanks
[08:04:24] <zinid> default_db is a global option
[08:04:34] <zinid> yes, it will be applied to everything
[08:04:48] <zinid> and you need to load pg sql schema
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[08:05:06] <zinid> and if you don't care about previous data, you can remove mnesia database (in /var/lib/ejabberd)
[08:06:32] <nz> Awesome thanks, so I apply default_db and then sql_type, sql_server, sql_username, sql_password, and sql_port globally right?
[08:07:32] <nz> And do I use pg.sql or pg.new.sql from GH?
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[08:08:59] <zinid> right
[08:09:00] <zinid> use new schema
[08:09:11] <zinid> also set `new_sql_schema: true` in the config
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[08:16:40] <nz> Ok so download pg.new.sql and then use:
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default_db: sql
new_sql_schema: true
sql_type: pgsql
sql_server: "localhost"
sql_database: "ejabberd"
sql_username: "ejabberd"
sql_password: "password"
----
[08:16:54] <nz> Is this 100% correct?
[08:17:02] <nz> [thank you so much btw]
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[08:25:20] <zinid> nz, yes
[08:25:29] <nz> Great thanks. And how do I install psql support if I'm using ejabberd from the jabber.at repo?
[08:25:38] <nz> Last question I hope sorry ;]
[08:25:39] <zinid> I don't know
[08:26:01] <nz> Holger recommended using the repo, so I'm sure there's a way
[08:26:04] <zinid> isn't pgsql support compiled in the package from jabber.at repo?
[08:26:09] <nz> I'll keep looking
[08:26:26] <zinid> usually SQL support is always compiled in the packages
[08:26:35] <zinid> it would be very weird if it isn't
[08:26:42] <Holger> nz: With Debian stable I'd recommend the official Backports repo.
[08:26:43] <nz> Can't say for sure, I'm getting no such file or dir p1_pgsql.app
[08:26:52] <Holger> There's a separate package for that, yes.
[08:26:58] <nz> > nz: With Debian stable I'd recommend the official Backports repo.
Thank you, how about Ubuntu?
[08:27:11] <zinid> don't use Ubuntu
[08:27:15] <Holger> apt-file search p1_pgsql.app
[08:27:29] <Holger> If your don't have apt-file install it first.
[08:27:30] <nz> > There's a separate package for that, yes.
Do you know the name? I've tried apt install ejabberd- tab but nothing relevant
[08:27:36] <nz> Perfect thanks
[08:28:28] <nz> > don't use Ubuntu
Is this for ejabberd related reasons or for other reasons? I try to maintain my project for both Debian and Ubuntu.
[08:28:47] <Holger> What's the advantage over Debian?
[08:29:34] <zinid> no advantages, it was "cool" and "modern" and "shiny" back then
[08:29:37] <Holger> You get support contracts for the base system. Almost everything else is better maintained in Debian.
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[08:29:44] <zinid> and currently just a clone of Debian, yet another one
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[08:29:52] <Holger> For example, ejabberd 🙂
[08:29:59] <nz> None, I try to make it more available as many systems automation projects out there use Ubuntu like mailinabox and streisand
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[08:30:31] <nz> And since mine is inspired by those, I try to make it available to people feeling comfortable with Ubuntu, that's all
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[08:38:09] <mightyBroccoli> > mightyBroccoli, yes
> ah, I think it's broken...
That was meant for my question right and not for a user called 'ah'?
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[10:34:22] <zinid> mightyBroccoli, yes
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[10:41:31] <nz> Seems to be fixed
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[10:43:14] <nz> zinid: or Holger: you said if I understood correctly once I set default_db: sql no need to set auth_method: sql or inside mod_mam db_type: sql
[10:44:15] <nz> But then why are my previously created users still able to log in after completely removing psql from the system and deleting all databases?
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[10:45:54] <nz> Or login after I service postgresql stop?
[10:46:03] <nz> [albeit with some delay]
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[10:53:00] <zinid> wut?
[10:53:04] <zinid> I didn't understand
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[10:56:59] <nz> > zinid: or Holger: you said if I understood correctly once I set default_db: sql no need to set auth_method: sql or inside mod_mam db_type: sql
This is correct right?
[10:57:22] <zinid> well, should I repeat it twice or thrice?
[10:57:41] <zinid> also, there is the documentation, which clearly says what it is
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[10:59:16] <zinid> > default_db: mnesia|sql|riak: This will define the default database for a module lacking db_type option or if auth_method option is not set.
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[14:06:57] <nz> Yes, sorry, I forgot to follow up on the quote
[14:07:56] <nz> The question is, is it correct that that option disables any non-postgresql data storage?
[14:08:33] <nz> Because if I register a user with psql enabled, stop ejabberd, then wipe psql, and restart ejabberd, the user is still registered.
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[14:10:10] <zinid> > Because if I register a user with psql enabled, stop ejabberd, then wipe psql, and restart ejabberd, the user is still registered.
I can't see how this is possible, I wipe database like several times a day during development
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[14:35:45] <404.city> nz user save to mnesia
[14:36:34] <nz> > nz user save to mnesia
What do you mean sorry? They are saved to mnesia regardless?
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[14:37:21] <nz> > I can't see how this is possible, I wipe database like several times a day during development
apt purge postgresql postgresql*
rm -r /var/lib/postgresql*
And still conversation manages to authenticate
[14:37:39] <404.city> nz,  auth_method: sql
[14:38:14] <nz> But zinid was saying default_db is global
[14:39:36] <404.city> nz,  no
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[14:40:18] <nz> Interesting, what's your full config if you're willing to share?
[14:40:44] <404.city> nz,   You config? auth_method: internal
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[14:40:58] <nz> We both have 100% compliant servers and I'd like to see what we're doing similarly and what we're doing differently
[14:41:35] <Licaon_Kter> nz: compliant has nothing to do
[14:41:35] <nz> > nz,   You config? auth_method: internal
Let me double check mine
[14:41:47] <nz> > nz: compliant has nothing to do
Yes sorry, this is a separate discussion
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[14:42:33] <nz> About psql, I'll try also changing auth_method
[14:42:34] <Licaon_Kter> nz: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/licaon-kter/51f8be973f743d453f515ef3e91bccd5/raw/dedc017fc9871a1af81f96649178b5c244aaa07b/ejabberd.yml
Here's mine from a month ago
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[14:43:05] <nz> Nice thank you!
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[14:44:53] <nz> Why don't you want to be bridged on matrix?
[14:45:51] <404.city> > ‎nz‎: But zinid was saying default_db is global
This is global only for modules:  mam, Offline, etc
[14:46:23] <nz> Ok thanks, maybe I had misunderstood what zinid was saying then
[14:46:32] <zinid> 404.city: no
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[14:47:20] <404.city> nz,  Matrix is ​​a Trojan horse
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[14:49:13] <404.city> nz,  They provide an unusable server
[14:51:24] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> nz updated config: https://gist.github.com/licaon-kter/e880b6fcf54ad0b813182ae875409658
[14:51:40] <404.city> nz,   Matrix is 9GB RAM for 50 users. Fagots
[14:51:49] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> > Why don't you want to be bridged on matrix?
https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-bifrost/issues/53
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[14:52:59] <zinid> nice to hear about matrix here again 😁
[14:53:10] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Lucky me, a great guy/gal helped me escape.... https://matrix.org/blog/2019/04/11/we-have-discovered-and-addressed-a-security-breach-updated-2019-04-12/
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[14:53:43] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> nz I should remove those but they help you understand some acls below 😉
[14:54:57] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> nz some of my config choices are highlighted here: https://gist.github.com/licaon-kter/54d4656cc753b98e1dc0d81a59a73faa
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