ejabberd - Tuesday, September 10, 2019

ejabberd

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zinid has set the subject to: ejabberd discussions: https://docs.ejabberd.im

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[00:47:30] <reset> Since im still banned from conversations muc, can i ask here whats their license? Does anyone know? zinid Licaon_Kter
[00:47:46] <reset> s/their/his
[00:47:55] <reset> (Or its*)
[00:48:29] <reset> Holger? Anyone? 🙃
[00:49:35] <reset> Nvm found it, gpl3
[00:49:39] <reset> 🤔🤔🤔
[00:50:03] <reset> Why though, does this guy gets any food or anything?
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[04:47:29] <j.r> > Why though, does this guy gets any food or anything?
reset: you could make money with Open Source Software...
[04:48:18] <reset> Hmm
[04:48:33] <reset> 1) never release o/s
[04:48:35] <reset> ?
[04:48:58] <j.r> Lol what?
[04:49:39] <j.r> Also look at the Processone guys... they also make money with their Open Source software called ejabberd....
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[07:29:56] <javafreund> Dear all,
i have some trouble with ejabberd. I am still learning how to install and use it. Therefore I have created a virtual maschine on a debian system and installed ejabberd on it. It works fine. I have created an admin account, which can log in in Gajim and another user which is also able to log in. But I have trouble with the webinterface. It took a while until I figured out that i need to deactivate tls in the config file in order to make it work. So the site is loading now and wants my admin credentials, but if i type them in (and they are valid - i am using these credentials to login in on gajim) and click on login nothing happens. no error message. the authorization window is then blank and still there.
Is there anyone who can help me out on this? I couldn't find help on the internet for this virtual machine situation.
here is my config file
https://pad.foebud.org/mkj8220313
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[07:37:28] <Daniel> are muc/sub nodes proper pubsub nodes? can i query their contents with regular pubsub syntax?
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[07:37:35] <Daniel> the 'XEP' doesn’t really say
[07:39:02] <Daniel> and the 'get a list of subscribers' which is the only example that does actually get the contents of a node does not use pubsub syntax
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[07:50:39] <zinid> Daniel, no, they are not
[07:51:13] <Daniel> zinid: thanks. That what I thought. But I didn't want to write code just to confirm that it won't work
[07:51:36] <zinid> sure, it's easier to ask 🙂
[07:53:14] <zinid> javafreund, what URL are you using?
[07:53:30] <zinid> try http://localhost/admin/
[07:54:32] <javafreund> this is what i am using and i see a login
[07:54:37] <javafreund> but it doesnt work
[07:54:42] <javafreund> the credentials are correct
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[07:57:36] <zinid> javafreund, anything in ejabberd.log/error.log?
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[07:57:46] <zinid> I mean any warnings or errors?
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[07:58:26] <zinid> $ grep warning ejabberd.log
$ cat error.log
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[07:58:35] <javafreund> just a second
[07:59:34] <javafreund> could find the file
[07:59:38] <javafreund> couldn't
[08:00:53] <zinid> sigh
[08:02:06] <javafreund> found in  ejabberd/var/log/ejabberd an error log which is empty
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[08:03:45] <zinid> then enable Web inspector in the browser to see what exactly ejabberd returns when you see a blank page
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[08:04:43] <javafreund> i also found ejabberd.log but seems ok
[08:04:44] <javafreund> cd ejabberd/var/log/ejabberd
[08:04:47] <javafreund> sry
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[08:05:27] <javafreund> auth error
[08:05:34] <javafreund> but credentials are correct
[08:06:34] <javafreund> i cant open the webeditor as the pop up is blocking me from doing so
[08:06:38] <Daniel> are you entering the jid or the localpart?
[08:06:55] <javafreund> i called my admin jabberhut
[08:07:00] <javafreund> so i enter jabberhut@localhost
[08:07:15] <javafreund> as i did it in gajim for loggin in for testing
[08:07:56] <zinid> not sure why people are trying to use web admin 🙂 It's mostly unusable
[08:08:09] <javafreund> also just jabberhut doesn't work with credentials
[08:08:40] <javafreund> not sure why people are trying to use web admin 🙂 It's mostly unusable -> but i would like to at least know where i can find it and how to use it just in case
[08:08:52] <Daniel> zinid, ever tried to set up shared roster groups (or modify an existing one) over the command line?
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[08:14:00] <javafreund> did anyone look at my config file? could this be a solution? https://www.ejabberd.im/node/27/index.html -> "{acl, admin, {user, "someuser"}}
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[08:19:14] <javafreund> but that looks correct to me. maybe at oauth: -> scope -> oauth  -> changing it to jabberhut?
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[08:21:46] <zinid> Daniel, ah, shared roster, that buggy thingy, right, you need a web admin for that 🙂
[08:28:22] <javafreund> great more buggy things than just the webadmin 😀
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[08:28:48] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Daniel you don't want to use shared_roster nononononon
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[08:30:42] <Daniel> Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]: unfortunately many customers want that
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[08:31:30] <Daniel> And I'd argue that at least all in all is a good and valid use case
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[08:39:50] <Daniel> Does this mean something to someone in here https://github.com/iNPUTmice/p2/issues/12
Was posted at the p2 issue tracker but seems more like an ejabberd issue if this is even an issue at all
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[08:40:24] <Daniel> (because that particular p2 is hosted behind an ejabberd)
[08:41:15] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Daniel I know, I whant shared to work too, but I also need some good debugging info to make zinid interested enough to effing rewrite the damn thing 🙂
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[08:41:25] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Daniel I know, I want shared to work too, but I also need some good debugging info to make zinid interested enough to effing rewrite the damn thing 🙂
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[09:31:24] <zinid> Daniel, the only bug I see is that ejabberd sends error response on the same s2s stream
[09:32:56] <zinid> and this is only happening on malformed stanzas: ejabberd cannot internally route malformed stanzas
[09:33:20] <Daniel> i figured
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[09:34:35] <zinid> and I will not gonna fix this: I just don't know how: there are some hard requirements for the stanza to be valid in order to pass it to internal routing procedures
[09:35:01] <zinid> for example if there is no 'type' in 'iq' somesome might just crash, also our static analyzer will complain
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[09:35:33] <Daniel> sure that's fair. i figured as much (that this is the problem and that this is also not easy to fix if this is even a bug)
[09:36:00] <zinid> the only problem for the sender is that it won't receive a meaningful error for the crap s/he sent
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[09:40:31] <reset> Daniel: oh hi there 🧐
[09:40:47] <zinid> reset, please don't be annoying
[09:40:58] <zinid> (a friendly warning)
[09:41:51] <reset> j.r:
> Also look at the Processone guys... they also make money with their Open Source software called ejabberd....
Their product is their service/support etc, not the product/software itself
[09:41:59] <reset> zinid: 🤔
[09:42:00] <reset> K
[09:42:45] <j.r> > j.r:
> Their product is their service/support etc, not the product/software itself
The same counts for Conv
[09:43:17] <reset> Hmm eh anyway
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[09:48:45] <javafreund> i start not liking ejabberd before i have even started using it 😂️ this webinterface wont let me in at all
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[09:53:56] <reset> It seems it doesnt like you then javafreund
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[10:19:08] <kris> https://tigase.net/blog-entry/aliases-jabberxmpp-account
[10:19:38] <kris> Is there some way to allow people to set up aliases in ejabberd as discussed above?
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[10:54:01] <javafreund> maybe @reset
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[11:02:18] <jonny> My first experience with ejabberd was great, it simply worked if you change carefully the minimum changes in the default config and support is great through this channel..
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[11:04:18] <javafreund> unfortunatley, no one could help me out with this issue til now
[11:04:39] <javafreund> i mean i cant be the first one setting it up without ssl in a virtual machine for testing
[11:04:57] <javafreund> (at least i hope that most people try and learn before they set something up)
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[11:17:05] <Holger> javafreund: What is the _exact_ error message you're seeing?
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[11:45:37] <javafreund> authorization error
[11:45:39] <javafreund> thats it
[11:45:52] <javafreund> i bet its something in the config file which is wrong
[11:46:16] <javafreund> as the credentials are correct, its the admin account and i can log in to gajim etc with it but not to the web interface
[11:46:48] <Holger> The ejabberd source doesn't contain the string "authorization error".  I asked for the _exact_ message for a reason.
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[11:47:47] <Holger> Maybe you're trying to use an account that doesn't have the necessary privileges as per your access_rules.  But without a proper error message we can only guess.
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[12:09:35] <jonny> I've read that you're using admin@localhost for your jid...
Are your sure that it's not admin@your.domain.tld?
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[12:11:51] <jonny> You could make a `tail -f /var/log/ejabberd.log` during login through the admin panel
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[12:26:59] <jonny> Only talking people can be helped 😁, so don't blame the software
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[12:31:23] <javafreund> its not admin?
[12:31:26] <javafreund> wer do you see that?
[12:31:41] <javafreund> sorry i still dont get notifications in dino 🙁
[12:31:51] <javafreund> where* do you see that? i thought its jabberhut?
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[12:36:37] <jonny> Don't know what you're talking about... You told before that you try to enter the ejabberd web admin interface with a jid admin@localhost or am i wrong?
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[12:37:00] <javafreund> no i called my admin jabberhut and tried it with jabberhut@localhost
[12:37:11] <javafreund> i also tried it with jabberhut, admin@localhost or localhost
[12:37:14] <javafreund> nothing worked
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[12:37:28] <javafreund> here is my config file
https://pad.foebud.org/mkj8220313
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[12:38:13] <javafreund> You could make a `tail -f /var/log/ejabberd.log` during login through the admin panel -> couldn't find the file or data
[12:39:02] <jonny> It should be on the machine where your installed ejabberd
[12:39:13] <jonny> If you didn't install via deb
[12:39:26] <jonny> Then it's in the ejabberd base folder
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[12:39:52] <jonny> Are you running Dino on the SAME machine
[12:40:01] <jonny> Than ejabberd server?
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[12:40:51] <javafreund> yep its running on the same machine. i did install via apt-get
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[12:43:04] <javafreund> ah found it okay the log says 'bad password' but it is really the same one as i used with gajim o.O
[12:43:46] <Holger> The ejabberd source doesn't contain the string "bad password".
[12:43:54] <Holger> Could you copy-paste the entire log line you're seeing?
[12:44:30] <Holger> Ah "bad-password" (with a dash), I see it.
[12:45:25] <Holger> Okay yes that's indeed just an incorrect password.  Maybe foo with strange/non-ASCII characters or something?
[12:45:37] <Holger> Try changing the password to something simple and try again.
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[12:51:23] <javafreund> I can log in as admin in gajim without problems or errors but get an erorr login. to be honest. i didnt do for the test case anything complicated
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[12:52:21] <Holger> You won't solve the issue by doing nothing :-)
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[12:53:41] <Holger> You could also try `ejabberdctl check-password javafreund example.com p4ssw0rd && echo correct`.
[12:54:30] <Holger> Are you specifying the full JID while logging in to the web thing?
[12:55:25] <javafreund> jep i tried it with the full jid
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[12:55:36] <javafreund> https://pad.foebud.org/ejabberd123
[12:55:41] <javafreund> thats my log
[12:56:42] <Holger> `ejabberdctl jabberhut localhost p4ssw0rd && echo correct` spits out "correct"?
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[12:59:26] <javafreund> command not found
[12:59:49] <Holger> How did you install ejabberd?
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[13:01:07] <javafreund> sudo apt-get install ejabberd then sudo dpkg-reconfigure ejabberd (choosed admin account) then sudo /etc/init.d/ejabberd restart
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[13:01:42] <Holger> dpkg -L ejabberd | grep ejabberdctl
[13:01:53] <javafreund> then i just disabled tls from the config file to be at least able to access the webpage
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[13:03:29] <javafreund> get the following results
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[13:03:30] <javafreund> /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.ejabberdctl
/usr/sbin/ejabberdctl
/usr/share/man/man8/ejabberdctl.8.gz
/etc/ejabberd/ejabberdctl.cfg
/usr/share/doc/ejabberd/examples/ejabberdctl.cfg
[13:03:59] <Holger> `/usr/sbin/ejabberdctl jabberhut localhost p4ssw0rd && echo correct` spits out "correct"?
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[13:05:52] <javafreund> unknown command
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[13:06:26] <Holger> `ls -l /usr/sbin/ejabberdctl`
[13:06:32] <javafreund> but sudo ejabberdctl register Benutzername Servername Passwort       works fine
[13:06:58] <Holger> `sudo ejabberdctl jabberhut localhost p4ssw0rd && echo correct` spits out "correct"?
[13:07:30] <javafreund> no already tried it
[13:07:46] <Holger> `sudo ejabberdctl jabberhut localhost p4ssw0rd || echo incorrect` spits out "incorrect"?
[13:08:27] <javafreund> that works
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[13:08:39] <Holger> Did you replace "p4ssw0rd" in that command line with the password you're typing into the browser while trying to access the web thing?
[13:08:49] <javafreund> yep
[13:09:00] <Holger> So my last command said "incorrect"?
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[13:09:40] <javafreund> i tried it in the first command (correct) with my password but it wasnt working in the second one with a random one to get a incorrect result
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[13:10:08] <Holger> ...
[13:10:08] <javafreund> but if i enter the real pw in the second one it also says incorect
[13:10:17] <Holger> Does you password contain only characters and/or digits?
[13:10:31] <Holger> ASCII characters I mean.
[13:11:31] <javafreund> on small characters and one digit. i really made it super easy for testing purposes.
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[13:12:30] <javafreund> *only
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[13:13:32] <Holger> I would nevertheless run `sudo ejabberdctl change-password jabberhut localhost newPassWord`, and then copy-paste that password into the browser.  (Even though that might obviously break Gajim or whatever client is already using the old password.)
[13:14:40] <Holger> Because as the `ejabberdctl check-password` calls above have shown, your problem at this point is simply that you're not using the password stored in ejabberd's user database.
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[13:20:01] <javafreund> ok thank you that works now..but the weird thing is also if i type in the new pw in gajim it cant connect to localhost anymore
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[13:38:19] <gockel> hi, quick question is is possible to convert the old mysql schema to the new schema?
[13:42:02] <zinid> gockel, no, the converter is currently broken
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[13:42:13] <Steven Roose> gockel, what old/new?
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[13:42:16] <Steven Roose> Is this a recent thing?
[13:42:31] <Steven Roose> I have an installation that's updated say 5 months ago.. Am I affected?
[13:42:43] <zinid> Steven Roose, no 🙂
[13:42:48] <Steven Roose> K cool 🙂
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[13:43:40] <gockel> zinid, hmm thats unfortunate. Are there plan on fixing this? I quite like the new schema and I have to switch some day.
[13:44:22] <zinid> gockel, yes, there are plans for this, I'll try to fix this by the next release
[13:44:46] <gockel> zinid, sweet thank you Sir.
[13:44:50] <Daniel> It's probably not rocket science to do manually if you really want to
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[13:49:11] <gockel> certainly not but if the converter is on its way to be functional again, and the old schema not being deprecated, I don't see why I should
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[17:05:00] <Rev> Hey.
[17:05:23] <Rev> Can you put ejabberd s2s and c2s on the same port? Is there a module to do that, if this is not possible out of the box?
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[17:22:44] <Rev> (goal is to use sslh because all but the 443 port is blocked)
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[17:25:46] <Daniel> If you are going to sslh anyway can you not use that to multiplex?
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[17:26:33] <Licaon_Kter> Rev:  see https://gist.github.com/54d4656cc753b98e1dc0d81a59a73faa ;)
[17:28:16] <Daniel> If you are only going to expose on port only servers which support direct tls will be able to talk to you tho
[17:28:17] <Rev> Daniel: Seems only S2S or C2S is working at a time according to my "stream error" in conversations when I use this conf: http://0x0.st/zJ6u.txt
[17:28:54] <Rev> (I have no problem multiplexing http traffic, what I need is running the c2s and s2s components over the same port)
[17:29:10] <Daniel> Well in ejabberd it would still be multiple ports. Sslh would do the multi plexing for you
[17:29:23] <Rev> sslh cannot differentiates s2s and c2s I think
[17:29:36] <Rev> Licaon_Kter: checking that right now, thanks
[17:29:38] <Daniel> Based on alpn
[17:29:41] <Daniel> It should
[17:30:10] <Rev> oh, ok, I'm not using it at all right now
[17:30:17] <Rev> thanks for the hints
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[17:30:35] <Daniel> I mean the short answer is don't. Get a better server/hoster
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[17:31:13] <Daniel> Just because you can doesn't mean you should (run it on the same port)
[17:31:48] <Rev> thanks for your concerns.
[17:33:25] <Rev> (we host it in a university, and asking for a port opening would mean probably waiting one year, we will ask for it but, in the meantime…)
[17:35:51] <Daniel> I mean the least crazy one is probably use sslh to multiplex the traffic based on alpn to the c2s tls port. And then fallback everything that is not tls to the s2s port
[17:36:08] <Daniel> Because broadly clients are more likely to support direct tls
[17:36:21] <Daniel> Unless you don't really care about s2s anyway
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[18:26:56] <Reventlov[x]> Daniel: indeed
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[18:29:06] <Holger> Or fix sslh to distinguish c2s vs. s2s.
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[18:32:38] <Reventlov[x]> Well, so now, what I have is sslh listening on port 443, and sending whatever supports alpn to the good port (5222 for c2s, 5223 for s2s), and then "xmpp" traffic to s2s
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[18:33:04] <Reventlov[x]> and, since I'm talking to you, it works
[18:34:16] <Reventlov[x]> So I guess I only supports client that support direct tls
[18:34:27] <Holger> Yup.
[18:34:28] <Reventlov[x]> which should be most of the importants ones.
[18:34:40] <Holger> Well …
[18:35:00] <Holger> Obviously depends on your definition of "important" 🙂
[18:35:30] <Holger> Not sure there's an iOS client that supports this, for example.
[18:35:34] <Reventlov[x]> :p (you have some examples of clients not supporting it?)
[18:35:35] <Reventlov[x]> oh well, ok
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[18:37:22] <Holger> You might want to offer Converse.js to have an alternative for unhappy users of other clients.
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[18:55:59] <kris> Hi. I am trying to add a second vhost to my ejabbered config
[18:56:11] <kris> With a seperate certificate
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[18:57:00] <kris> It works well for one domain with the "certfiles" argument and a list of the priv.key and cert.crt
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[18:57:37] <kris> But the domain_certfile option seems to only accept a string, not a list
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[18:58:44] <kris> Does that mean I first have to manually combine the two, or is there a way to use the two cert files directly?
[18:59:10] <zinid> kris, use `certfiles` option
[18:59:18] <zinid> kris, just list all your PEM files there
[18:59:50] <zinid> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/ejabberd.yml.example#L26
[19:00:04] <zinid> also remove any domain_certfile options, they are deprecated
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[19:00:18] <zinid> (if you're using 19.08 of course)
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[19:05:11] <kris> Yes using 19.08
[19:05:42] <kris> But certfiles is not allowing to be added under host_config
[19:06:04] <zinid> kris, ejabberd will pick the needed certfile for your domain
[19:06:40] <kris> Ahh, so I just add more. Why difficult if it also can be easy 🤦‍♂️
[19:07:38] <kris> Will try :)
[19:07:51] <zinid> yes, ejabberd parses the certificates, finds matching private keys, rebuilds the chain and then picks the needed chain for the domain
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[19:09:00] <kris> Maybe worth mentioning in the official docu that also still has a section on domain_certfiles ;)
[19:09:10] <zinid> yes, on my TODO list 🙂
[19:09:14] <kris> But thanks!
[19:09:17] <zinid> I will do that by 2025 I think
[19:09:22] <kris> 🤣
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[19:25:52] <kris> Works well.
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[19:55:16] <perflyst> is it possible to use two auth sources with ejabberd? e.g. local and ldap at the same time?
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[19:59:26] <kris> AFAIK yes
[19:59:50] <kris> Not 100% sure though
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[20:00:21] <zinid> perflyst, yes
[20:00:40] <zinid> perflyst,
```
auth_method:
  - internal
  - ldap
```
[20:01:25] <perflyst> ok, and how does it work in more detail?
if "testuser" is in internal and ldap, can he use both passwords?
[20:02:55] <kris> https://beherit.pl/en/wordpress/plugins/ejabberd-account-tools/
[20:03:05] <kris> Trying to set this up.
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[20:03:39] <kris> Really nice so far... but the rest API config seems to have changed a lot recently?
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[20:04:41] <zinid> perflyst, ejabberd will check internal first and if fails then it checks ldap
[20:05:03] <kris> Is there a guide somewhere how to configure something like that on 19.08? The readme in the above plugin is 16.04 level
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[20:06:10] <perflyst> "if fails"
well if the passwords are different this means it checks internal and reports user exist but password is wrong? or will it check LDAP anyways if the pw is "wrong"?
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[20:07:44] <zinid> perflyst, it's just logical OR
[20:07:57] <zinid> internal OR ldap
[20:08:12] <zinid> which means either auth succeed with internal or ldap
[20:08:25] <perflyst> ok thx
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[20:10:30] <zinid> in the next version more complex form will be added:
auth_method:
  - [sql, internal]
  - ldap
  - [mnesia, external]
[20:10:32] <zinid> 😀
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[20:10:59] <zinid> which is a conjuctive normal form 😀
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[20:12:34] <zinid> i.e. (sql AND internal) OR ldap OR (mnesia AND external)
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[20:13:23] <kris> > Is there a guide somewhere how to configure something like that on 19.08? The readme in the above plugin is 16.04 level
https://pastebin.com/bkGKTdqy
[20:13:34] <kris> Is the guide provided
[20:14:40] <kris> But everything after the acl part looks totally different from the ejabberd 19.08 default config
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[20:16:18] <zinid> I personally have no clue how that http API/command magic works, so cannot answer
[20:16:38] <kris> Holger might know?
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[20:16:58] <zinid> prefiks knows, but he is not joined ATM
[20:17:31] <kris> Ok. Then I will check again another time with him. Thanks
[20:18:02] <zinid> I will ask him to join tomorrow morning
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[20:18:17] <zinid> or, if I forget, remind me please
[20:18:49] <kris> Ok will do
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[20:20:09] <zinid> did you look into https://docs.ejabberd.im/developer/ejabberd-api/permissions/ ?
[20:20:22] <zinid> it's brutal shit though...
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[20:21:34] <kris> Yeah a bit... problem is I understand not even half of it, and it doesn't fit at all to what the wordpress plugin suggests
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[20:23:34] <kris> But it must be working somehow as I know that the author of this plugin has it running with 18.12
[20:23:48] <kris> On jix.im
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