Process-one
ejabberd
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Sunday, September 22, 2019< ^ >
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[07:12:22] <perflyst> ah ok, thanks
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[07:13:29] <perflyst> zinid: btw, i tested
- sql
-ldap
seems like if an user is present in SQL but tries to login with ldap pw, auth fails
so I need to remove users from the sql table "users" first
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[07:22:15] <zinid> I don't think so
[07:22:25] <zinid> if SQL fails ejabberd tries LDAP
[07:22:42] <zinid> but I'm not sure, hehe
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[07:25:40] <perflyst> it wasnt the case. for test i changed to
- ldap
- sql
and then LDAP worked, SQL not
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[13:41:22] <perflyst> In order to fix this SQL and LDAP thing, can I safely drop a user entry in the "users" DB table?
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[13:48:19] <perflyst> Hm, nope
Seems like it does not work this way
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[13:54:39] <perflyst> Ok, needs a restart otherwise ejabberd does not notice the database change
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[14:27:29] <zinid> perflyst, what ejabberd version?
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[14:29:40] <perflyst> backports, so 18.12
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[14:30:25] <zinid> what database change doesn't ejabberd see?
[14:30:39] <zinid> it's probably due to cache
[14:30:45] <zinid> $ ejabberdctl clear-cache
[14:31:04] <perflyst> delete from users where username = '123'
[14:31:15] <perflyst> ok, will try the clear cache
[14:31:16] <zinid> yeah, use `clear-cache` next time
[14:32:37] <perflyst> perfect, thanks!
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[15:09:51] <lovetox> zinid, muc service should send a shutdown message and kick users from the muc with it. but this seems not to work, if i restart ejabberd via adhoc command, this does not get sent
[15:09:54] <lovetox> is this known?
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[15:13:02] <Daniel> lovetox: in my experience this depends on whether or not the s2s connection is alive
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[15:13:51] <lovetox> why wouldnt it if the server tries to kick someone from the room?
[15:15:09] <Daniel> Well the s2s might have been idle closed. And then it won't work.
[15:15:38] <lovetox> ok so if a s2s is closed, and i kick a user from the room, ejabberd just not relays that info?!
[15:15:38] <Daniel> (that's what I'm usually experiencing. It might be something else in your case)
[15:15:48] <Daniel> Yes.
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[15:16:33] <lovetox> is it not supposed to build a new connection if there is data to be transmitted?
[15:16:39] <lovetox> sounds a bit weird Daniel
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[15:17:24] <Daniel> Well if you are in the process of shutting down you don't want to run through the quite lengthy process of establishing a new s2s
[15:17:40] <lovetox> we are not talking about a unexpected shutdown here
[15:17:48] <lovetox> we talk about planned shutdown in the future
[15:17:59] <lovetox> i can configure ejabberd to shutdown in 2 minutes
[15:18:42] <lovetox> and nobody cares if it takes 2 minutes and 5 seconds, because it gracefully shuts down
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[15:19:33] <zinid> > is this known?
Yes, know. No easy fix
[15:19:36] <zinid> *known
[15:20:06] <zinid> because s2s gets down before modules
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[15:20:41] <zinid> and if you don't shutdown s2s first there are tons of other problems
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[15:21:43] <zinid> shortly put, it's tricky, and I don't want creating hacks for muc only
[15:22:06] <lovetox> kk, muc self-ping it is then
[15:23:06] <zinid> I honestly spent much more time on proper ejabberd shutdown than it's worth
[15:23:40] <lovetox> zinid any idea how i can trigger the muc service shutdown status code anyway?
[15:23:49] <lovetox> i wrote code for it and want to test it
[15:24:04] <zinid> lovetox, you can stop mod_muc first, then stop ejabberd
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[15:24:13] <lovetox> k gonna try that
[15:24:40] <zinid> not sure how to stop that easily from scripts, because usually people just remove the module from the config and reload it
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[15:24:52] <lovetox> i use adhoc :D
[15:25:04] <lovetox> i know you removed that functionality in newer versions
[15:25:09] <lovetox> but i think im on a older one
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[15:25:37] <zinid> in new one you cannot stop module from adhoc 😀
[15:25:41] <zinid> I removed this functionality
[15:25:51] <lovetox> thats what i just said :)
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[15:26:11] <zinid> ah, sorry, misread your first sentence
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[15:26:44] <zinid> or you can just sed something-something && ejabberdctl reload-config && ejabberdctl stop
[15:27:13] <lovetox> no with adhoc it works fine
[15:27:15] <lovetox> thanks
[15:27:20] <zinid> okay 😉
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[15:27:50] <lovetox> and haha its also always if i remove something from gajim, 1 week later someone comes and tells me he uses that :D
[15:28:49] <zinid> yes, that's the main problem with adhocs - they don't modify the config and this creates confusion and HATE
[15:29:56] <lovetox> but generally i love adhoc, i feel we should do more with it, i always search for a client 2 client use case
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[15:30:09] <lovetox> but was not able to find a good one yet
[15:30:14] <zinid> I wonder if it's possible to map YAML to adhoc directly
[15:30:46] <zinid> in some automated way, without too much fiddling
[15:31:17] <lovetox> hm would be a start to just make the config available via adhoc, and able to save it back
[15:31:32] <zinid> yeah, this is doable
[15:31:40] <zinid> ugly, but doable 🙂
[15:31:55] <lovetox> yeah but i guess its a bit weird, i mean everyone who sets up a server will rather login there and edit it
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[15:32:53] <zinid> yes, and that's why I prefer doing configuration change via config-reload only, including adding vhosts, certs, modules and stuff like that, it's just much more simplier than calling commands for just administration without scripts
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[18:35:18] <lovetox> zinid i have a weird error
[18:35:24] <zinid> lovetox, wut?
[18:35:40] <lovetox> if i stop mod_muc, the first presence i send to the muc service is like vanished
[18:35:46] <lovetox> it does not get answered with an error
[18:35:55] <lovetox> if i send a second, i get a error back
[18:36:11] <lovetox> does this sound familiar? should i look into ejabberd debug logs?
[18:37:07] <lovetox> hm but maybe its the remote server that does not route the presence ..
[18:37:25] <zinid> first presence? when mod_muc is not loaded?
[18:37:30] <lovetox> do you end s2s connections if i stop mod_muc?
[18:37:35] <zinid> no
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[18:37:58] <lovetox> no im joined a muc on a ejabberd server, i stop the mod on the server, server sends shutdown presence
[18:38:08] <lovetox> after 5 seconds i send a join presence from my client
[18:38:15] <lovetox> i expect an error back because mod is not active
[18:38:16] <zinid> ah
[18:38:18] <lovetox> instead i get nothing
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[18:38:23] <zinid> let me check
[18:38:25] <lovetox> if i send a second presence, i get an error
[18:39:40] <zinid> do you send this via s2s?
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[18:40:28] <lovetox> yes
[18:40:42] <zinid> okay, let me test via c2s first
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[18:42:55] <zinid> at least with presence="unavailable" I cannot reproduce
[18:43:07] <lovetox> it works if locally
[18:43:11] <zinid> ah
[18:43:16] <lovetox> i just also tested
[18:43:28] <lovetox> so its only via s2s so it could be the other server at fault
[18:43:29] <zinid> right, try to see the logs
[18:43:35] <zinid> error.log first
[18:44:16] <zinid> I suspect there is a crash
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[18:45:45] <lovetox> ok where is the error log?
[18:45:50] <lovetox> sorry im a server noob
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[18:47:07] <lovetox> ah var/log es it seems
[18:47:08] <zinid> I have no idea, depends where you install
[18:48:13] <lovetox> no nothing in error
[18:48:17] <zinid> argh...
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[18:48:23] <lovetox> lets look if the presence arrived
[18:48:25] <lovetox> at all
[18:48:35] <zinid> you can enable debug
[18:48:42] <zinid> you will see XML dumps in ejabberd.log
[18:49:00] <zinid> it seems like it will take some time to configured s2s between my servers
[18:49:25] <zinid> set some fancy 'id' in presence and grep
[18:49:31] <lovetox> yeah no problem, i track this down myself
[18:50:32] <zinid> ah, I think I know 😉
[18:50:38] <lovetox> do i need Debug level?
[18:50:42] <lovetox> or is Info enough
[18:51:08] <zinid> debug
[18:51:10] <zinid> loglevel: 5
[18:51:21] <zinid> then `ejabberdctl reload-config`
[18:52:19] <zinid> I wonder why it doesn't crash, lol
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[18:54:18] <zinid> according to the code it should crash in ejabberd_router:host_of_route/1
[18:55:00] <zinid> ah, no
[18:55:06] <zinid> it just terminates the stream!
[18:55:17] <zinid> and your client doesn't see stream termination
[18:55:25] <zinid> bug fixed!
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[18:56:09] <zinid> lovetox, hey
[18:56:14] <zinid> lovetox, stop fiddling
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[18:56:20] <zinid> I know what happened 🙂
[18:56:34] <lovetox> nice :)
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[18:57:55] <zinid> so
1) mod_muc is stopped, ejabberd doesn't know anything about conference.domain.tld
2) ejabberd receives stanza via existing s2s stream to conference.domain.tld, but doesn't find it in route table
3) ejabberd terminates the s2s stream with host-unknown
4) you send next stanza and a new stream is rejected with host unknown and you receive the error in the client
[18:58:28] <zinid> the problem is step 2 and 3
[18:58:37] <zinid> this is something like a bug...
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[18:59:10] <zinid> but on what server your client resides?
[18:59:12] <lovetox> yeah great we fixed that, still nobody will stop mod_muc ever, but if they do now we can properly reconnect :D
[18:59:19] <lovetox> jabber.fr
[18:59:25] <zinid> what is it running?
[18:59:30] <zinid> prosody?
[18:59:34] <lovetox> prosody Trunk
[18:59:51] <zinid> prosody doesn't bounce stream errors back to a client via remote-server-timeout?
[19:00:19] <lovetox> hm have to test, at least not in the first 20 seconds
[19:00:35] <zinid> because ejabberd bounces
[19:01:02] <lovetox> yeah but the stanza arrives at ejabberd
[19:01:13] <lovetox> so why would prodody tell me there was a timeout on the stanza?
[19:01:36] <zinid> ah, right
[19:01:38] <lovetox> or do you have s2s some acknowledge stuff
[19:01:40] <zinid> you're right
[19:01:53] <zinid> ejabberd only responds to the client on stream initiation
[19:02:11] <zinid> and when stream is enabled it's impossible to know to whom to respond
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[19:03:14] <zinid> now I don't know how to fix it (I mean closing incoming s2s stream when route is deleted)
[19:03:32] <zinid> because ejabberd_s2s_in doesn't keep info about what local domain it serves
[19:03:45] <zinid> I think it's done this way for some dialback stuff
[19:04:59] <zinid> it only checks that 'to' attribute possesses some locally served domain
[19:05:15] <lovetox> cd ..
[19:05:21] <lovetox> ah damn wrong window :D
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[19:06:31] <lovetox> whole muc stuff with presences is so fragile
[19:06:45] <lovetox> i wished this was an IQ flow with results
[19:07:13] <zinid> lovetox, MIX? 😛
[19:07:34] <zinid> I honestly don't understand why we keep beating that dead horse
[19:08:24] <lovetox> time
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[19:11:33] <lovetox> zinid, if you dont know yet how to fix it, should i open a issue for it?
[19:11:51] <zinid> yes, please, or I'll simply forget
[19:11:58] <lovetox> its a edge case stopping a module, but i would hope for it to get fixed sometime
[19:12:29] <zinid> wait
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[19:12:56] <zinid> maybe I can just route both stanza error and then terminate the stream?
[19:14:17] <zinid> anyway, open the issue
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[22:06:27] <jonny> Is it normal that one ejabberd instance users about 50 postgresql connections?
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[22:06:52] <jonny> I had to increase max_connection in postgresql.conf
[22:07:19] <jonny> And am now at 150 with three instances...
[22:07:36] <jonny> Why so many connections?
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[22:17:14] <jonny> SELECT count(*)
FROM pg_stat_activity
WHERE datname = 'ejabberd' and usename = 'ejabberd';
gives me 160
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