ejabberd - Monday, September 23, 2019

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Monday, September 23, 2019< ^ >

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[04:12:34] <perflyst> jonny: I also noticed that
[04:12:52] <perflyst> but does it matter? dont think so
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[13:37:47] <zinid> flow, I have probably bad news for you 🙂 After playing with ACME I decided to base my certificate issuance on ACME instead
[13:38:12] <zinid> and the document will be committed to the IETF
[13:39:53] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> _OMG the table turned!_
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[13:53:36] <j.r> > flow, I have probably bad news for you 🙂 After playing with ACME I decided to base my certificate issuance on ACME instead
What certificate issuance?
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[13:54:05] <zinid> j.r, client certificates
[13:55:49] <zinid> j.r, https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0417.html
[13:56:15] <j.r> zinid: so you standardize a ACME for People thing? How should this work?
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[13:56:34] <zinid> j.r, same way as described in the link I posted above
[13:56:39] <zinid> read the intro
[13:57:20] <flow> zinid, well, what does it mean for a client who whises to create/have its certificate signed?
[13:57:43] <zinid> flow, that a client will use an existing ACME library
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[13:57:58] <zinid> instead of writing an XMPP based protocol
[13:58:04] <zinid> so actually less work
[13:58:10] <zinid> and there are already tons of libraries
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[13:58:40] <flow> zinid, how does the client authenticate itself?
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[13:59:27] <zinid> flow, there are two ways: either it creates an account on the ACME server (that is just an EC private key) or links some existing account to the ACME server's account
[13:59:43] <zinid> I haven't decided yet how this will be in details, that's the hardest part for me
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[14:00:19] <flow> I mean doesn't client have to provide some proof that it is actually user@example.org? For example by placing a token into a PEP node
[14:00:37] <zinid> yes, it has of course
[14:00:46] <zinid> but that's a part of ACME challenge
[14:01:15] <zinid> basically ACME is two parts: creating/linking ACME accounts and then proof of possession via challenges
[14:02:16] <flow> Is ACME for client certificates already uses somewhere? Otherwise I'd assume this would potentially run into resistance from parts of the ACME ecosystem
[14:02:55] <zinid> no, moreso, only let's encrypt is used, so we cannot speak about "ACME ecosystem" so far 😀
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[14:03:17] <flow> TBH I fail to see how this makes things less complexer and easier. But it is probably worth an experiment.
[14:03:56] <zinid> flow, by the way, there is ongoing draft to issue client certificates for mail clients
[14:04:05] <zinid> so I don't see any resistance so far
[14:04:17] <zinid> I can give you a link
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[14:05:16] <flow> Thanks for giving me a heads up. Yeah, sure, that link would be nice
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[14:05:45] <zinid> ah, even more: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moriarty-acme-client-02
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[14:07:09] <zinid> and for email: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-acme-email-smime-05
[14:08:05] <zinid> I see no point in reinventing our own way, by looking at the existing work
[14:08:26] <flow> guess you could simply cp /draft-ietf-acme-email-smime /draft-ietf-acme-xmpp-client to get started
[14:08:31] <zinid> yup
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[14:09:10] <flow> I definetly see the benefit in using ACME. But then again, I also see the benefit of a pure XMPP variant of xep417
[14:10:13] <flow> So if you are no longer interested in xep417, I would consider updating xep417 myself, with the updates we have discussed
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[14:10:58] <zinid> hehe
[14:11:19] <zinid> let me at least send you the latest (unpublished) version
[14:11:35] <flow> that would be much appreciated :)
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[14:28:34] <zinid> flow, http://upload.zinid.ru/xep-eax-cir.xml
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[14:44:41] <flow> zinid, thanks, imported https://github.com/Flowdalic/xeps/tree/master/xep-eax-cir
[14:44:55] <zinid> 👍
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[15:39:43] <Alacer> Any Idea on Release of 1908 in Buster. I believe there is a critical Bug in Ejabberd Tracker but any time line for fix... As still the official releasenin stable is 1812 and we are just couple of months away from 1912... ;)
[15:40:17] <Licaon_Kter> Alacer: buster backports maybe...
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[15:41:06] <zinid> Alacer, I didn't recommend releasing 19.08. Wait for 19.09.
[15:41:56] <zinid> not sure if 19.08 is already released for debian 🙂
[15:42:09] <Alacer> Ok Thanks zinid .. Licaon_Kter Nothing in Backports the Bug is in Byg Tracker marked Critical but in Bullseye 1908 is there...
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[15:46:49] <Licaon_Kter> No, was saying that it might end up in backports, as buster is stable
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[16:26:29] <perflyst> > Ok Thanks zinid .. Licaon_Kter Nothing in Backports the Bug is in Byg Tracker marked Critical but in Bullseye 1908 is there...
which bug?
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[19:48:54] <jonny> > Is it normal that one ejabberd instance users about 50 postgresql connections?
You can configure this with the `sql_pool_size` config value. I've decreased global value to 2 and the main domain I'm serving to 20
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[19:48:54] <jonny> 99% of the connections are idle anyway
[19:49:26] <jonny> ... Actually only one connection is active
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[20:03:11] <Licaon_Kter> jonny: reload_config or restart?
[20:03:30] <jonny> Restart
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[20:04:15] <jonny> But not sure
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[20:04:29] <jonny> In postgres you have to restart 🙂
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