Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, November 18, 2019< ^ >
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Room Configuration
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[11:40:19] <zinid> https://twitter.com/xmpp_is/status/1196091566231826432
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[11:40:22] <zinid> attack again!
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[11:48:56] <Licaon_Kter [not cnvrs]> > Currently serving: 1129 C2S connections
Oh ffs, my Pi3+ could handle that, wtf?!
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[11:49:53] <Licaon_Kter [not cnvrs]> While they're doing fstrim on their SCSI SSDs....meh
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[11:53:27] <Licaon_Kter [not cnvrs]> > 2x Intel Xeon (type not specified for security)
Nice try, they're all exploitable trololo
[11:54:45] <Licaon_Kter [not cnvrs]> > Yearly dedicated server cost: $0
> Yearly domain cost: $126
How about you don't host on 6 domains then, dammit
[11:55:26] <Holger> Server hosting is free in Iceland?
[11:55:34] <Holger> Though IIRC it's hosted somewhere else ...
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[12:06:18] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: somebody gives them free hosting
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[12:10:17] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: In Bucharest, it seems.
[12:10:25] <Holger> Probably running on your Pi.
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[12:12:52] <Licaon_Kter [not cnvrs]> Oh wa-
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[12:17:16] <Holger> https://flokinet.is/vps-server.php#pricing
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[12:25:33] <Holger> They all have [x] DDoS Protection!
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[12:27:29] <Kris> is there some way to make ejabbered to do push notifications though webhooks or something like that? I would like it to use my Gotify server to send me push notifications.
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[12:31:02] <Holger> There's this, but probably needs some tweaking to work with current ejabberd: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd-contrib/tree/master/mod_post_log
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[12:43:52] <Kris> so then I would have to sort through all the html logs and figure out if my username is mentioned etc?
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[12:45:09] <Holger> Sounds horrible :-)
[12:45:34] <Holger> Or (get someone to) fix that module, if it sounds like it would do the trick for you.
[12:45:42] <Kris> na I mean via Gotify :)
[12:46:38] <Kris> how does the regular push notifications do it? I guess they send only the actual notifications to the google servers, not everything as a log?
[12:47:18] <Holger> The standard `mod_push` doesn't talk to Google or Apple or whoever directly.
[12:47:46] <Holger> It talks XMPP to some 'proxy' service operated by the app vendor, which then talks to Google/Apple/whoever.
[12:48:17] <Holger> So if you're into XMPP a bit, you could create/operate such a proxy service which talks to Gotify instead.
[12:48:47] <Kris> ah, is such a proxy available as open source?
[12:48:53] <Holger> If you're into Erlang/ejabberd a bit, you could modify mod_push to talk HTTP rather than XMPP to Gotify.
[12:49:18] <Holger> This is the one used by Conversations: https://github.com/iNPUTmice/p2
[12:49:51] <Kris> thanks, will have a look at it. Not that I will be able to do much with it most likely :-/
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[12:51:06] <Holger> There's another one implemented as a Prosody module which might be easier/quicker to extend for you (Lua rather than Java, and already supports different backends, so you could add mod_push_appserver_gotify next to _fcm and _apns): https://github.com/tmolitor-stud-tu/mod_push_appserver
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[12:51:48] <Kris> cool. that seems like a better start indeed
[12:52:24] <Kris> but will it work with ejabberd as well?
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[12:52:49] <Kris> ah I guess not. hmmm
[12:53:21] <Holger> Kris: No you'd need to run a separate Prosody instance.  But note that the whole idea depends on the client 'registering' for push notifications of the given type.  So it won't help you with standard clients.
[12:53:39] <Holger> Kris: I.e. the solution depends on your exact use case.
[12:53:39] <Kris> yeah makes sense
[12:54:08] <Kris> I am thinking about ways to enable self-hosted push-notifications for Ubuntu Touch mobile devices
[12:54:49] <Kris> using an app that wrapps around Movim
[12:55:37] <Holger> Ubuntu Touch did have some push support at least back in the Canonical days, no?
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[12:56:07] <Holger> I kinda remember they supported self-hosting out of the box.  (No idea how they prevented me waking apps on your phone that way, though.)
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[12:57:08] <Holger> So if you're a client dev (i.e. writing that Movim wrapper) then I'd probably go for the standard mechanism (i.e. `mod_push`) indeed..
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[13:02:35] <Kris> ok, thanks for the insight. Not really a clever dev though... just muggling through :-/
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[13:52:36] <Holger> Seems we sometimes kick MUC participants with 'remote-server-timeout' despite being able to establish a new outgoing s2s connection just fine (thanks pep. for spotting this).  We even deliver the kick-presence to the kicked participant over the newly established connection.
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[13:53:54] <Holger> zinid: Is there a race in ejabberd_s2s_out while the process is terminated due to idle timeout?  I.e. where we bounce packets rather than establishing a new connection?
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[13:59:37] <zinid> Holger, yes
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[14:01:38] <Holger> \o/
[14:01:50] <Holger> Always been that way I guess?
[14:02:21] <Holger> But maybe triggered more often these days with more presence and chat states and whatnot sent to rooms.
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[14:05:48] <Holger> Then again with even more traffic the connection shouldn't time out as often.
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[14:22:53] <zinid> yeah, always
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[14:26:08] <Holger> pep.: So known issue, just not known to me.  Case closed ;-)
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[14:26:29] <Holger> Probably reason enough for me to disable the idle timeout on my servers.  If we can't fix that easily.
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[14:32:07] <Licaon_Kter [not cnvrs]> Holger `outgoing_s2s_timeout` ?
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[14:32:47] <Kris> Holger‎, might this do the trick: https://github.com/esl/MongoosePush ?
[14:33:00] <Kris> seems to do push notifications via http
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[14:34:30] <Holger> Kris: It _accepts_ notifications via HTTP, and sends them (via HTTP) to Google or Apple.
[14:34:37] <Holger> Kris: I don't see how this would help you.
[14:34:50] <Kris> ah, my bad then. wasn't sure
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[14:35:19] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: `s2s_timeout: infinity`.
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[14:37:02] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: `outgoing_s2s_timeout` is just the timeout for the connect() call.  And the idle s2s_timeout also affects incoming.
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[15:28:44] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: no entry in docs for s2s_timeout? :-|
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[15:30:26] <Holger> Sigh.
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[15:32:09] <Holger> zinid: Isn't that problem reason enough to make `infinity` the default?  I'm all for idle timeouts, but only if the don't break things.
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[15:33:38] <zinid> Holger, I'm not sure the problem might frequently occur when the connection is timed out, I would say this is highly improbable
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[15:37:26] <Holger> I would've guessed so as well.  But in some rooms it looks like it happens around once a day or so.  Maybe some client sending presence, and then auto-idling 10 minutes later (with no traffic in between), thereby kicking numerous remote participants at once.  But maybe it's due to another problem, not the idle timeout (I just don't see any from staring at s2s_out code).
[15:37:39] <Holger> *auto-awaying
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[15:40:54] <Holger> This wasn't my server.  The only thing I really know is: pep.'s client was kicked at about the time the server logs idle-timeout, s2s connection to his server was established during the same second, his client that was kicked received kick-presence due to remote-server-timeout.  There's one such occurance where I have the ejabberd.log entries, but that happens quite regularly.
[15:41:22] <zinid> well you can set infinity to see if this improves anything
[15:41:28] <Holger> Yup.
[15:41:56] <Holger> edhelas: Could you do that on movim.eu (where pep. has seen the same thing) as well?
[15:42:06] <Holger> stefan: Ah and the other server was yours :-)
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[15:43:02] <Holger> stefan, edhelas: In ejabberd.yml: `s2s_timeout: infinity`, then `ejabberdctl reload-config`.
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[15:45:29] <edhelas> done
[15:46:24] <zinid> I have set it 1 hour btw
[15:46:31] <zinid> I mean on zinid.ru
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[15:48:47] <stefan> Holger: done
[15:49:04] <Holger> Thanks!
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[15:54:04] <Licaon_Kter [not cnvrs]> Holger it's about `[info] <0.25105.0>@ejabberd_s2s_out:process_closed:151 Closing outbound s2s connection myserver.tld -> domain.tld: Stream closed by peer: Idle connection (connection-timeout)` ?
[15:55:31] <Holger> Licaon_Kter [not cnvrs]: Yeah though in this case the remote server closed the connection due to idle timeout.
[15:57:02] <Licaon_Kter [not cnvrs]> I have these periodically....connects....disconnects....
[15:57:43] <Holger> Yeah that's to be expected, that's the point of the idle timeout.
[15:58:12] <Holger> I.e. don't waste resources by maintaining idle connections. Just reconnect once there is new traffic.
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[16:30:02] <perflyst> is there any max avatar size?
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[16:38:16] <daniel> Yes and no
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[16:39:29] <daniel> You are limited by max stanza size (depending on server configuration) and maybe a max item size for pubsub (depending on server configuration)
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