Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Tuesday, May 5, 2020< ^ >
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Room Configuration
Room Occupants

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[06:45:57] <Holger> Do those of you who now do voice calls use ejabberd's default shaper of 1000 Byte/s? If so, does it take a while (longer than 1–2 seconds) to establish the A/V stream after accepting a call?
[06:46:10] <Holger> Do those of you who now do A/V calls use ejabberd's default shaper of 1000 Byte/s? If so, does it take a while (longer than 1–2 seconds) to establish the A/V stream after accepting a call?
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[06:48:56] <Licaon_Kter> Do the shaper rules get updated after reload?
[06:48:58] <Alacer> Yes I tried... I am In AE and Server was in Germany.. Default Shaper. I called from 4G to Wifi and it takes like 3-5 seconds easily...
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[06:49:06] <ChaosKid42> > Do those of you who now do A/V calls use ejabberd's default shaper of 1000 Byte/s? If so, does it take a while (longer than 1–2 seconds) to establish the A/V stream after accepting a call?
Shaper on which listener?
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[06:49:56] <Holger> Alacer: Are you talking about messaging.one (I think you tested that one)?
[06:50:03] <ChaosKid42> I use the default shaper and yes, it takes more than 2 seconds.
[06:50:41] <Holger> ChaosKid42: Could you test whether adding a 0 to the shaper value makes it faster?
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[06:51:02] <Alacer> Nope I am Talking about Ejabberd on my own VPS... messaging.one I believe is better I remember Less than ejabberd...
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[06:51:56] <ChaosKid42> > ChaosKid42: Could you test whether adding a 0 to the shaper value makes it faster?
Yes. I'll probably find time for that in the afternoon.
[06:52:02] <Alacer> Also on my VPS when I added a Fried it took like 2-3 mins till the guy gets phone Button in Conv. Same for me... Messaging.One was quicker...
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[06:52:44] <Alacer> I am Not using any DB and it was Mnesia on my VPS as only 2-3 testing users
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[06:56:00] <Licaon_Kter> I have mine bumped up _(after discussions here of course)_
```
shaper:
  normal: 5242880
  fast: 10485760
```
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[06:57:14] <Holger> ChaosKid42: Ok thanks.
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[06:57:55] <rintinfinn> I have enabled ejabberds internal turn plus an external coturn on my server. coturn is a lot faster establishing calls. (tested by enabling one or the other).
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[06:59:01] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Yeah so do I (not quite as much) on all my servers. So I didn't notice. But it seems the default value made it slow for dominion.
[06:59:34] <Holger> rintinfinn: I don't think that's true in general.
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[07:00:53] <Holger> rintinfinn: When using the internal TURN, did you explicitly specify mod_stun_disco's `services:`.
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[07:02:17] <rintinfinn> Holger: no, I only set those up later for the external server, are they needed for ejabberds turn as well?
[07:02:54] <Holger> No.
[07:03:07] <Holger> I was just guessing a reason for it being slow.
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[07:04:08] <Holger> Then I dunno. We could try to track it down if you want, but if you're fine with coturn I don't mind. I'm quite confident ejabberd's TURN isn't slow at all in general.
[07:04:52] <rintinfinn> its fast again now that both are set up, but I am not sure which turn is actually used.
[07:05:28] <Holger> You could check coturn's "verbose" logs I guess …
[07:05:42] <Holger> Why are you configuring both? Fallback in case coturn is down?
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[07:07:37] <rintinfinn> yeah for fallback. as long as I have two servers running anyways I see no reason why not to do it.
[07:07:51] <Holger> Just BTW I now figured out restund needs a little patch to make it work with ejabberd (or Prosody).  But I guess nobody will be interested anyway, as that's not packaged for Debian or others.
[07:07:59] <Holger> rintinfinn: Right, I see.
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[07:09:23] <Holger> The only downside might be that Conversations will always authenticate against all available servers during connection negotiation, I think. Dunno whether that could slow things down a little bit, or not.
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[07:09:30] <rintinfinn> I ll try raising the shaper rules later and see if it makes a difference
[07:10:29] <Holger> rintinfinn: I would think that's unrelated to ejabberd TURN vs. coturn though. If the shaper slows down the Jingle communication, both would be affected.
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[07:27:20] <Holger> Okay I can reproduce the shaper issue.
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[07:28:38] <Holger> If anyone is motivated to play around a bit with the shaper to figure out what shaper value seems to be the threshold where you notice slowdown, I'd be very interested in numbers.
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[07:29:27] <dominion> I will do, going down from 10000 😉
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[07:41:08] <dominion> I set my shaper rules from 10000 to 100000 for testing and the connection is much faster and likely instant !
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[07:44:21] <Alacer> Time to Bump Up Shapers... ,😉
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[07:50:10] <dominion> 1000 is too slow, 10000 is ok for me ;)
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[08:18:38] <Licaon_Kter> > c2s
Oh wait, I don't shape that :))
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[08:42:34] <Licaon_Kter> Right, testing this, not sure I see that much of a difference, eg. Network conditions seem to have a bigger impact
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[08:42:59] <Holger> Hmm, I do see quite an impact myself now.
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[08:43:55] <Licaon_Kter> Then again, maybe the impact is more RPi based in my case, so a bump in the shaper has little impact?
[08:44:30] <Holger> Daniel was so kind to collect numbers so I think I'm already mostly convinced we should bump the default shaper to something like 10k.  I'll submit a PR and let the others decide.
[08:44:52] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Hmm, I would've expected your RPi to handle more traffic/s ...
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[08:45:39] <Licaon_Kter> 👍
[08:45:51] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: I would too, just musing
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[08:47:04] <Licaon_Kter> I meant network conditions of clients actually. Eg testing on mobile to wifi here
But, I'm further away from the wifi point, and testing this yes it's a second or two
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[08:55:50] <Licaon_Kter> Ok so from 1000 to 10000 it's like from 2.5s to 1.5s, sounds impressive in math, not so much in RealLife™ :)
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[08:58:25] <daniel> I'd argue that anything closer to instant is better ux
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[08:59:29] <Licaon_Kter> No discussion there, of course.
[09:00:15] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: what's the threat model on c2s shaping?
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[09:03:13] <Steven Roose> If I've got this, what was done wrong during compilation/installation?
[09:03:13] <Steven Roose> 2020-05-04 23:56:32.057 [critical] <0.299.0>@ejabberd:exit_or_halt:146 Failed to start Erlang application 'p1_pgsql': no such file or directory: p1_pgsql.app. This usually means that ejabberd or Erlang was compiled/installed incorrectly.
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[09:03:36] <Steven Roose> I use the NixOS package, but it's possible that the person that built the NixOS package never tried it with pgsql.
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[09:04:02] <Steven Roose> (Is pgsql/mariadb/mysql in any way recommended for use with ejabberd?)
[09:04:35] <Licaon_Kter> Steven Roose: they're all both used, your choice or your option, eg. Already have X in place
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[09:05:54] <Steven Roose> Licaon_Kter, ok somehow your reponse just really reads like Chinese to me.. Could you try rephrase?
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[09:06:17] <Steven Roose> oh I think I understand the last part
[09:06:33] <Steven Roose> that "already having either of them in place" is an argument to pick either?
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[09:08:53] <Licaon_Kter> Steven Roose: no, I use psql
Not sure what was lost in translation, eg. You already have MariaDB for PHPBB, you won't go and add psql, right? You'll use Maria
[09:08:59] <Holger> Licaon_Kter:
> I meant network conditions of clients
Yeah that might well become the bottle-neck of course.
[09:09:07] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Threat model would be DoS/DDoS.
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[09:09:58] <Holger> For DoS from a single client (malicous or the client just going wild) a much larger shaper value will be fine of course.
[09:10:27] <Licaon_Kter> By multiple connections as stanza size is throttled with max stanza?
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[09:11:52] <Holger> For DDoS a lower shaper just means the attacker will have to open more connections.
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[09:13:12] <Holger> max stanza size is just about limiting memory usage.
[09:13:23] <Licaon_Kter> Ok
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[09:18:41] <ChaosKid42> Holger: I increased the normal shaper from 1000 to infinity and then went down to 10k. It has a signinficant impact on conenction time (approx. from 8 seconds down to 2). No difference though between infinity or 10k. Btw: reload_config wasn't sufficient. had to restart the server.
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[09:19:18] <ChaosKid42> I'm using coturn btw.
[09:19:22] <Holger> ChaosKid42: Ok, that's what I would've expected by now.  Thanks a lot.
[09:19:28] <Steven Roose> Licaon_Kter, I understand, but that doesn't mean either one cannot be recommended, while the others also work..a
[09:19:36] <ChaosKid42> Holger: You're welcome.
[09:19:47] <Holger> ChaosKid42: I would assume reload would affect _new_ c2s connections.
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[09:20:10] <ChaosKid42> Ah. Ok. Didn't try reconnection.
[09:20:55] <Holger> Steven Roose: Both should work equally well with ejabberd, as Licaon_Kter said.
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[09:22:36] <ChaosKid42> Holger: That's th config I use atm:
>  mod_stun_disco:
>    secret: wonttellyou
>    services:
>      -
>        host: xmpp.scholzbande.de
>        port: 3478
>        type: stun
>        transport: udp
>      -
>        host: xmpp.scholzbande.de
>        port: 3478
>        type: stun
>        transport: tcp
>      -
>        host: xmpp.scholzbande.de
>        port: 5349
>        type: stuns
>        transport: tcp
>      -
>        host: xmpp.scholzbande.de
>        port: 443
>        type: stuns
>        transport: tcp
>      -
>        host: xmpp.scholzbande.de
>        port: 3478
>        type: turn
>        transport: udp
>      -
>        host: xmpp.scholzbande.de
>        port: 3478
>        type: turn
>        transport: tcp
>      -
>        host: xmpp.scholzbande.de
>        port: 5349
>        type: turns
>        transport: tcp
>      -
>        host: xmpp.scholzbande.de
>        port: 443
>        type: turns
>        transport: tcp
[09:22:38] <Holger> Some people recommend Postgres due to it being more SQL-spec compliant and generally feeling more consistent, but that's not related to ejabberd specifically.
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[09:23:25] <Holger> ChaosKid42: Looks good to me.  (Conversations/libwebrtc won't use 'stuns' but it shouldn't hurt.)
[09:24:12] <Holger> ChaosKid42: I'd probably go for stuns/turns just on 443.
[09:24:17] <ChaosKid42> I'm using sslh on 443 to multiplex stuns and turns by using ALPN. But I actually don't really know if this works at all.
[09:24:22] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> what do I have to watch iin logs for video calls? I try calling but I don't see anything in the logs .. which level do i need here?
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[09:25:09] <ChaosKid42> > ChaosKid42: I'd probably go for stuns/turns just on 443.
Yes. Makes sense.
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[09:25:23] <Holger> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: `[info] ... Offered TURN credentials to alice@example.com/Resource (hash) ...`.
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[09:26:35] <Holger> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: And ejabberd_stun will then log `[info] ... accepted long-term STUN authentication for timestamp:hash@realm from IP address` (usually several times due to the client opening several TURN connections per call).
[09:26:56] <Holger> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: You need `loglevel: info` (or `debug`) for that.
[09:27:57] <Holger> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: Right now there's no log message indicating whether a TURN relay was actually used/needed (except if something fails).
[09:28:14] <Licaon_Kter> ChaosKid42:
> (approx. from 8 seconds down to 2)
Why is this slower than my RPi3+? Never saw more than 3 sec wtf...
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[09:29:09] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: You tested video, not just audio?
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[09:34:48] <rintinfinn> edhelas‎, how do i disable that?
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[09:35:07] <edhelas> I don't know, it seems that your client is buggy
[09:35:56] <rintinfinn> it was probably C because I enabled "last user interaction"
[09:36:26] <edhelas> what client are you using ?
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[09:38:19] <rintinfinn> Conversations and gajim, I think it was because my phone reconnects a lot, something is wrong with afwall, it fails to load iptables sometimes and reloads them all the time...
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[09:40:28] <edhelas> 🤷
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[09:41:35] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> well i tried calling between conversations and pixart messenger and it works well.. only thing is between movim (nl.movim.eu) and conversations OR pixart fails
[09:41:44] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> connection never established
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[09:41:56] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> cannot talk to the server says nl.movim.im
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[09:43:23] <rintinfinn> I think that's a known bug, movin can only make calls and cannot be called at the moment
[09:45:47] <Licaon_Kter> Holger:
> You tested video, not just audio?
Only video so I don't get audio hell :)
[09:46:03] <Holger> 🙂
[09:46:07] <Holger> Weird then.
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[09:46:37] <Holger> Maybe you just reloaded and didn't start a new c2s connection?
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[09:47:15] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: reload_config, disconnect asd reconnect both contacts
Need more?
[09:47:21] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: reload_config, disconnect and reconnect both contacts
Need more?
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[09:47:35] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: reload_config, disconnect and reconnect both accounts in C
Need more?
[09:47:42] <Holger> Should be good. Except if there's a bug 🙂
[09:47:50] <Licaon_Kter> Lol
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[09:50:05] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> rintinfinn using latest movim on nl.movim.eu
[09:51:22] <Licaon_Kter> Echse27: FYI i have ejabberd 20.04 setup like this, maybe overkill
https://gist.github.com/a81d6ba1041ae15fbecc1209a1e22702
[09:51:25] <rintinfinn> ThUnD3r|Gr33n‎, I am not using Movim myself, just overheard some talk on the Conversations chat
[09:51:44] <Holger> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: And you tried calling Conversations from Movim?
[09:52:02] <Holger> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: I mean you tested both directions?
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[09:55:58] <Holger> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: Movim --> Conversations works for me, Conversations --> Movim doesn't.
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[10:04:17] <Licaon_Kter> Echse27: https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/modules/#mod-stun-disco
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[10:09:21] <Echse27>   -
    port: 5349
    use_turn: true
    turn_min_port: 60000
    turn_max_port: 65000
    turn_ip: MY.EXT.ERN.AL
    auth_realm: mydomain.tld
    module: ejabberd_stun
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[10:09:51] <Echse27> that works?
[10:10:06] <Holger> Slightly weirdo as 5349 is the default TLS-port.
[10:10:10] <Holger> But should work.
[10:10:38] <ludo> Holger: ~14s in order to establish a video call with default shaper. Clients (Conversations) located in France and server in Germany
[10:11:00] <Echse27> ok cool, i will test instead of normal
[10:11:03] <Echse27> thanks
[10:11:18] <Holger> ludo: And with `normal: 20000`?
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[10:12:36] <ludo> > ludo: And with `normal: 20000`?
will test ASAP
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[10:21:36] <daniel> > ThUnD3r|Gr33n: Movim --> Conversations works for me, Conversations --> Movim doesn't.
Holger: in general or on one specific server?
[10:22:00] <daniel> Because both directions are supposed to work
[10:22:56] <Holger> daniel: This is the result of my exhaustive testing (trying one call from @movim.eu to @jabber.fu and one call other way round; using nl.movim.eu).
[10:23:00] <Holger> So no idea sorry.
[10:23:49] <daniel> With a movim.eu jid?
[10:23:50] <Licaon_Kter> Holger:
> The realm is only relevant for old-school TURN auth which you don't use.
But....multiple domains here, for JM...now
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[info] <0.18591.0>@ejabberd_stun:prepare_turn_opts:127 You have several virtual hosts configured, but option 'auth_realm' is undefined and 'auth_type' is set to 'user', so the TURN relay might not be working properly. Using firstdomain.tld as a fallback
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[10:24:21] <daniel> During what stage does it fail?
[10:24:22] <Holger> daniel: Yes.
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[10:25:28] <Holger> daniel: I accepted the call in Movim but then the stream wasn't established.  Let me try again and have a closer look.
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[10:26:07] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Yes this is the result of me being unsure how to make both 0215 and 'traditional' auth users happy.  It was a `[warning]` before, and the text was more alarming.
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[10:26:59] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: For proper username/password auth you want to take care the realm is correct.  For 0215 it's totally irrelevant.
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[10:28:23] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: I thought as much, thanks
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[10:29:56] <Holger> daniel: Okay, if I test several times, it seems about 50% of the calls do work.
[10:30:21] <Holger> edhelas was mentioning he's still looking into issues, maybe it's just those I'm running into.
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[10:31:33] <edhelas> i'd be pleased to have some debug info if you found some weird issues
[10:31:59] <edhelas> you can open tickets there https://github.com/movim/movim/issues
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[10:36:40] <daniel> Holger: do it just get stuck at connecting?
[10:36:46] <daniel> At the Conversations side
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[10:43:41] <Holger> daniel: Yes.
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[10:44:20] <Holger> I mean until it runs into the (I guess?) timeout and tells me that it failed.
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[10:44:54] <daniel> Is the other direction working more reliable?
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[10:50:46] <Licaon_Kter> > Why is this slower than my RPi3+? Never saw more than 3 sec wtf...
I've double checked, looks like I lied, the shaper line was not saved to the listener. :-|
Indeed, 14secs on 1000, 3secs on 10000, 2sec on 20000 or thereabout.
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[10:53:49] <Holger> Cool, thanks for testing again.
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[11:09:13] <Holger> daniel: Yes it seems so to me after maybe 10 tests in both directions.  But it feels like I should do even more tests to be sure.
[11:10:42] <daniel> Wild guess movim is racing the incoming candidates with the session-accept / bringing up webrtc
[11:10:44] <Holger> Also I can't get it to work in either direction with Conversations on mobile data, maybe TURN isn't working on @movim.eu, I didn't test with other accounts yet.  (I'm trying to get other stuff done and was just triggered by ThUnD3r|Gr33n saying it doesn't work at all ...)
[11:11:06] <daniel> cc edhelas
[11:11:43] <daniel> That's why the other direction seems fine. Because Conversations caches the candidates until webrtc is ready
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