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ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Friday, May 8, 2020< ^ >
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[09:30:40] <Lex> How can I find ejabberd's changelog?
Which oldest version have mod_http_upload?
[09:31:24] <Lex> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md started from 18.12, but my 16 already support this feature
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[09:39:09] <Holger> Lex: 15.10
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[09:40:38] <Lex> Holger: I found this link:
https://devhub.io/repos/weiss-mod_http_upload
Requirements: ejabberd 13.06 or newer
[09:41:58] <Holger> Yeah I think I published it on contrib or on my own GitHub account or something before 15.10. Forgot 😂
[09:42:27] <Holger> You have an old ejabberd and are trying to add upload support?
[09:42:28] <Lex> older than 15.10 can't support? Or this module was included into ejabberd from 15.10, but it can be installed manually from 13.06?
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[09:45:17] <Lex> Holger: I have very old OS with ej 2.1.10-4+deb7u1 by default, and thinking about http_upload availability. Updating OS impossible.
[09:45:36] <Holger> My module won't work with that.
[09:46:38] <Holger> Maybe Daniel's original upload component would work but seems he took it down.
[09:46:38] <Lex> ...but I can install newer ejabberd, which compatible with existing OS.
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[09:46:49] <Holger> https://github.com/siacs/HttpUploadComponent/
[09:47:05] <Lex> hmm... 404
[09:47:43] <Holger> That's what I meant when I said "seems he took it down". Just posted the link in case you want to try to find a copy somewhere.
[09:48:01] <Holger> Or maybe this one: https://github.com/guusdk/httpfileuploadcomponent
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[09:49:25] <Holger> But yes I would obviously suggest to update ejabberd if possible.
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[09:52:02] <Lex> Holger: Thanks for separate component. Updating ejabberd to the versions older than 15 have no reason, right?
[09:52:34] <Holger> Well you might get an old version of my module running with 14.x or something, I don't know.
[09:53:00] <Holger> But you'd have to compile it anyway so it's not clear to me how that would be easier than compiling ejabberd 20.04.
[09:53:12] <Lex> Thanks, will try it
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[09:59:40] <focus121> Is it possible/recommended to migrate a ejabberd mariadb to postgressql?
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[10:00:18] <Holger> Probably possible, but you're on your own with that. Dunno why it would be recommended.
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[10:02:17] <focus121> Is mariadb or postgress recommended for ejabberd. Or doesn't matter for ejabberd?
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[10:02:32] <Holger> Doesn't matter.
[10:02:40] <Licaon_Kter> focus121: I think you should do it... only if it matters *to you*
[10:02:44] <Holger> Both work fine.
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[10:03:16] <Holger> Some people prefer Postgres because it's kinda cleaner but that's not specific to ejabberd.
[10:03:35] <focus121> Okay
[10:03:40] <focus121> Thanks
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[10:04:46] <Holger> From the little I know about those SQL engines I think MariaDB might scale a bit better to large numbers of the requests typically performed by ejabberd, but I'm not an SQL expert at all.
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[10:05:11] <Holger> Both will work well and scale well.
[10:05:12] <Lex> Holger: directly installed 16.09 package by dpkg. It was easer than expected.
[10:05:33] <Lex> easier*
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[10:24:15] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: so turns is not supported by ejabberd?
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[10:24:26] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: It is.
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[10:24:47] <Holger> It's just not auto-announced by mod_stun_disco.
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[10:25:47] <Licaon_Kter> Wait...I think I know what I did wrong
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[10:26:20] <Licaon_Kter> Or not.
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[10:28:20] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: I'm on my phone but can show you my working configuration later.
[10:28:24] <Licaon_Kter> So, I've setup coturn 3478 and 5349, certs
stun_disco secret
service 3478 stun/turn and
443 stuns/turns
sslh 443 regex (alpn did not work, is C aware?) to 5349
Ok...works...
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[10:28:37] <Holger> Ah.
[10:28:39] <Licaon_Kter> > I'm on my phone but can show you my working configuration later.
No hurry
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[10:29:03] <Holger> Maybe libwebrtc just doesn't do ALPN. Dunno.
[10:30:09] <Licaon_Kter> But, then stop coturn
listeners to 3478/5349
stun_disco comment secret
keep the rest the same
sslh routes to 5349, ejabberd offers credentials but only for one party of the call
I'll retest soon...
[10:31:02] <Holger> No need to comment the secret BTW.
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[10:32:08] <Holger> > ejabberd offers credentials but only for one party of the call
Both clients on your server but only one receives 0215 creds from mod_stun_disco?
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[10:34:14] <Licaon_Kter> Was not adbing, was late at night. But iirc, ejabberd.log said only for one.
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[10:34:35] <Holger> Would be highly weirdo.
[10:35:08] <Holger> I'm pondering with publishing STUN/TURN as a stand-alone thing. Hardest part, as usual, how to name it!
[10:36:13] <Holger> eturnity? But there's some Swiss business with that name.
[10:36:34] <Holger> estund, eturnd, …
[10:37:35] <mfoss> FYI a better xml validation tool than w3 is this: https://www.xmlvalidation.com
[10:37:54] <mfoss> Actually shows invisible unicode char errors. The feed is fixed.
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[10:40:21] <marc> > I'm pondering with publishing STUN/TURN as a stand-alone thing. Hardest part, as usual, how to name it!
Would be awesome!
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[10:41:07] <daniel> eturnity sounds good. You just have to be more popular to outrank them on Google
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[10:43:19] <Holger> daniel: And their lawyers won't put me into prison for the rest of my life?  Because I'm not offering the same product?
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[10:44:01] <daniel> That's how I understand trademark law. But what do I know
[10:44:16] <Holger> Yeah same here.
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[10:46:03] <Licaon_Kter> I've read it as _eturDity_ lol
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[10:49:51] <Holger> Or eturnidy to get a different spelling. And because it's a *D*aemon or so.
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[10:50:44] <Holger> Well not sure yet. And gonna ask p1 whether they're interested in publishing themselves first, anyway.
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[10:52:39] <nik> eturn-et because it helps you phone home :P
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[10:55:05] <Holger> Hehe.
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[11:18:01] <mfoss> STUNT ?
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[11:21:21] <Holger> Nice as well but there's Stuntman already.
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[11:27:26] <mfoss> ah, so not good.
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[12:08:03] <Felix141> How do I upgrade my from source installed ejabberd (20.01) to 20.04?
Will I remove data when I simply do an git pull and make install?
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[12:20:55] <mightyBroccoli> Is it possible to for example use conference.example.de as muc server but assign muc.example.de as a cname to use as a shorter domain part?
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[12:23:51] <Holger> mightyBroccoli: No.
[12:23:58] <Holger> Felix141: No.
[12:24:00] <Licaon_Kter> Felix141: nope, data is separate
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[12:31:06] <mightyBroccoli> hmm I guess it is not really a thing to change the muc host right? I though I'd ask just to be sure :D
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[12:52:18] <Felix141> Licaon_Kter, Holger: means, I can simply do a pull and make install and I am safe with it?
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[12:53:05] <Holger> Felix141: If you use SQL, check https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/upgrade/#specific-version-upgrade-notes for schema changes.
[12:53:34] <Felix141> Thank you :)
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[12:54:34] <Licaon_Kter> Yup, easy :)
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[13:35:00] <rintinfinn> from: https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/upgrade/#specific-version-upgrade-notes
If you are using the newer mysql.new.sql schema:
CREATE TABLE oauth_client (
   client_id varchar(191) NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY,
   client_name text NOT NULL,
   grant_type text NOT NULL,
   options text NOT NULL
^^ this does not look right to me, the bracket does not get closed at all?
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[13:56:31] <raver> When someone prohibits to view his online status, l never see the telephone icon in conversations. Do l have to enable some extra config like for accessing omemo Keys in that case?
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[13:57:48] <Holger> raver: I would assume it won't work in that case.
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[14:07:57] <raver> Holger: thanks, for saving time 🙂✌️
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[14:09:19] <raver> He has the opinion that the status is not reliable at all when you're connected with several devices 😔
[14:10:00] <rintinfinn> from: https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/upgrade/#specific-version-upgrade-notes
If you are using the newer mysql.new.sql schema:
CREATE TABLE oauth_client (
   client_id varchar(191) NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY,
   client_name text NOT NULL,
   grant_type text NOT NULL,
   options text NOT NULL
^^ this does not look right to me, the bracket does not get closed at all?
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[14:11:49] <raver> rintinfinn: yep seems wrong
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[14:17:03] <Holger> > He has the opinion that the status is not reliable at all when you're connected with several devices 😔
I don't understand that statement. Each device sends its own status via presence stanzas. But the point is that I'm only allowed to query whether your devices support A/V if I'm presence-subscribed to you.
[14:17:06] <rintinfinn> Yeah, hmm, I also added an ");" into the next line, but still get the error message: table already exists...
[14:17:50] <rintinfinn> I also found some connection errors regarding mysql in my ejabberd.log, and it seems those could be related
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[14:22:20] <raver> rintinfinn: Then drop table before
[14:22:27] <rintinfinn> ok
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[14:22:52] <raver> Maybe `create or replace` will work
[14:24:18] <rintinfinn> It did wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/processone/ejabberd/master/sql/mysql.new.sql
mysql -D ${USER}_ejabberd < mysql.new.sql
now the changes where made, I hope I did not break anything, because I got an error concerning the users table or something...
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[14:25:49] <rintinfinn> That was probably not the brightest idea, to just write the changes that way, next time I will try doing it by hand (and dropping the concerning table first).
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[14:27:26] <rintinfinn> Is there a way to check if mysql is actually used by ejabberd, or could it fall back to some standart database in theory?
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[15:01:23] <raver> rintinfinn: ...or do a db dump before messing around 🙂
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[15:02:59] <raver> rintinfinn: You could check the active connections
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[15:03:04] <raver> In mysql
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[15:03:27] <raver> And see if ejabberd db  user occurs
[15:04:28] <rintinfinn>
> rintinfinn: ...or do a db dump before messing around 🙂
hehe, yeah there is a daily backup happening on the vps.
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[15:05:34] <rintinfinn> > rintinfinn: You could check the active connections
> In mysql
I ll take a look at that this evening, thanks
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[16:11:10] <Felix141> I tested Conversations calls over my (source updated, was really as simple as rerun the make process :)) 20.04 ejabberd and it worked without any further configuration, which is nice, but in the last you all wrote about stun/turn...
Why do calls work? Is there a preconfigured stun/turn server in Conversations? I think I even don't really understand what they are doing, maybe they aren't required and that's why it already works for me?
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[16:18:30] <Licaon_Kter> Felix141: if mobile to mobile or both devices on the same lan, yes...it might work without TURN server.
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[16:21:21] <Felix141> Ahh, yes, they were on the same LAN. Thanks :)
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[19:58:55] <Holger> Licaon_Kter, hmm I haven't seen your #3264 issues.  I specify the `certfile` explicitly for the listener, which does work.
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[19:58:58] <Holger> For me.
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[20:00:22] <Licaon_Kter> 2 issues there
1. I had to cat my key+cert from LE, which was baffling to me
2. I already define certfiles, there should not be a need to ask for them again, what, I'll use other certs? No...
[20:00:33] <Holger> Licaon_Kter, global certfiles also works, as you say it uses the `auth_realm` to choose the cert.  _Except_ it fails to update the cert on `config-reload`, e.g. when you updated your (LE) certificate.  This is the one bug I'm aware of.  And the reason I use the explicit `certfile` listener option.
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[20:01:09] <Holger> Yes you'll need to cat key+cert for the listener option.  Like back in the good old days.
[20:01:13] <Licaon_Kter> Oh...wait a bit...didn't I check that.... brb...
[20:01:24] <Holger> I have that cert update bug on my to-do list.
[20:01:38] <Holger> (The problem is obvious but the fix isn't.)
[20:02:24] <Holger> Anyway your bug report sounds like more issues.  Dunno how you ran into the `Duplicated option` thing.
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[20:04:28] <Licaon_Kter> using crt.pem alone error
using key.pem alone error
hey, why not specify `certfile:` twice? Well...duplicate
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[20:05:06] <Licaon_Kter> Then search the net, verify openssl your pems everything is effing ok, but ejabberd can't take them her... hey... let's concatenate.... BINGO
[20:05:24] <Licaon_Kter> brb
[20:06:34] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Ah.
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[20:06:59] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Weren't you already using ejabberd back in the days when you always had to concatenate? 🙂
[20:07:25] <Holger> Doesn't feel that long ago to me that zinid added the global certfiles magic.
[20:07:34] <Licaon_Kter> Umm, that was a long time ago... true... 2 years?
[20:07:37] <Licaon_Kter> 🙂
[20:07:44] <Holger> Time flies.
[20:07:53] <Licaon_Kter> I forgot the knowledge of the old ones
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[20:15:39] <Licaon_Kter> Holger, how do a check the cert servered as turns?
[20:15:48] <Licaon_Kter> Holger, how do a check the cert served as turns?
[20:16:23] <Holger> E.g. `openssl s_client -connect stuns.conversations.im:443`.
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[20:16:49] <Licaon_Kter> sslh...
[20:17:12] <Licaon_Kter> nvm....
[20:17:25] <Holger> Ah, `s_client -alpn 'whatever-its-called'` ...
[20:17:52] <Holger> Licaon_Kter, do you know whether libwebrtc emits ALPN?
[20:18:06] <Holger> Then again, now that Conversations doesn't verify the cert anyway ...
[20:18:22] <Holger> Oh but you obviously need it to route the traffic 🙂
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[20:30:23] <Licaon_Kter> I can openssl to 5349 locally, the cert is fine...
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[20:31:27] <Licaon_Kter> sslh [stun.turn] did not work, so I've switched to regex
`{ name: "tls";  host: "192.168.100.100"; port: "5349"; regex_patterns: [ "^\x73\x74\x75\x6E\x2E\x74\x75\x72\x6E"]; log_level: 0;  tfo_ok: true }`
[20:32:05] <Holger> Hah.
[20:32:13] <Licaon_Kter> Also, fun stuff, I still don't know IF it works, because if this rule is on top none of my other TLS web sites work....cert error
[20:32:34] <Licaon_Kter> so this is the last rule...and it works....with coturn at least
[20:33:10] <Holger> What exactly is that trying to match?
[20:33:13] <Licaon_Kter> (I guess it sends all my TLS to 5349 for some reason)
[20:33:44] <Licaon_Kter> `stun.turn` of course
[20:33:52] <Licaon_Kter> https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-extensiontype-values/tls-extensiontype-values.xhtml#alpn-protocol-ids
[20:34:30] <Licaon_Kter> why does it match "h2", "http/1.1", "spdy/1", "spdy/2", "spdy/3" then? Dunno...
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