Process-one
ejabberd
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Saturday, May 9, 2020< ^ >
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Room Configuration
Room Occupants

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[04:08:50] <Alacer> Licaon_Kter: The coturn on same host as with other host there is no need for the entry in sslh.. ?
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[06:15:17] <Licaon_Kter> Alacer: it is when simulating "corporate firewall that block everything except 443" ;)
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[06:32:24] <Demo> so if ejabberd can do ACME now, could i reuse the certificate? i have an existing letsencrypt certbot installation, but i'd like to not use my webserver if i can. however the certs i need for several other ssl services. is there a hook on cert updates?
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[06:37:24] <Licaon_Kter> Demo: read this first
https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/3075
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[06:44:21] <Demo> ok, well i don't have the multiple domain issue. frankly i'd rather have ejabberd maintain the cert so it's not mixed in with my multipurpose webserver
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[06:45:13] <Demo> i have internal apps and i really don't want to publish my port 80 to the world just to renew that cert
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[06:45:52] <Demo> having ejabberd do it, on a separate port, would simplify my life ;]
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[06:50:27] <Alacer> > Licaon_Kter Wrote:
> Alacer: it is when simulating "corporate firewall that block everything except 443" ;)
Licaon_Kter: Well I also Did the same Simulation as Earlier with sslh I was also Failing.. So I used coturn on my other server with Listening port 443. Did not use ejabberd's Internal TURN/STUN due to SSLH... my two cents... Its works well even with CG-NAT...
[06:51:46] <Licaon_Kter> 443 is used for several websites and fallback if 5222 is blocked, so no, I can't have just coturn/ejabberd there.
[06:52:14] <Licaon_Kter> Alacer: https://github.com/yrutschle/sslh/issues/246#issuecomment-626010419
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[06:53:45] <Licaon_Kter> daniel, Holger so C can ALPN or not?
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[06:56:06] <Alacer> ALPN is certificate part ?... I think certbot cannot do but dehyderated can...
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[06:59:36] <Alacer> Ignore ^^^^ thx
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[07:03:30] <Licaon_Kter> > daniel, Holger so C can do TURN ALPN or not?
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[07:05:05] <daniel> I don't know. You will have to run a network sniffer to find out
[07:05:19] <daniel> I think that's probably how we would find out as well
[07:05:30] <daniel> Libwebrtc is not documented at all
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[07:08:04] <Licaon_Kter> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[11:54:19] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: #3265, I'm confused again.  You have both TLS and non-TLS listeners.  So you're saying that ejabberd TURN doesn't work at all, regardless of TLS?
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[12:01:52] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Also I don't quite agree with your doc fix as long as we didn't fix the limitation that renewed global certificates won't be picked up by ejabberd_stun (as I explained yesterday).  Users should really use the listener's `certfile:` option if setting `tls: true` for an `ejabberd_stun` listener.
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[12:06:51] <Licaon_Kter> Holger:
> Licaon_Kter: Also I don't quite agree with your doc fix as long as we didn't fix the limitation that renewed global certificates won't be picked up by ejabberd_stun (as I explained yesterday).  Users should really use the listener's `certfile:` option if setting `tls: true` for an `ejabberd_stun` listener.
That's a different issue... Imho
[12:07:59] <Holger> Ah you mean because your fix was not about _stun listeners specifically?
[12:08:02] <Holger> Fair enough.
[12:09:36] <Licaon_Kter> So, you say that a global update and reload_config does not apply to stun.
But an update of the cert in `certfile:` is picked up?
Or updates, no matter to what file, or no matter if you run reload, are NEVER picked up by the stun listener anyway? And it needs a restart.
[12:10:15] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: that also applies to _sip iirc.
Also, other bugs aside that helps setup, in the current state.
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[12:12:12] <Holger> > But an update of the cert in `certfile:` is picked up?
Yes.  (It should at least, I didn't double-check.)
[12:12:41] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: And yes may well also apply do _sip, I didn't check.
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[12:13:45] <Holger> The problem is that SIP/STUN are relatively independent applications and aren't properly integrated into ejabberd's pkix magic.  They get handed over the certfile on startup and that's it.
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[12:17:21] <Licaon_Kter> > Licaon_Kter: #3265, I'm confused again.  You have both TLS and non-TLS listeners.  So you're saying that ejabberd TURN doesn't work at all, regardless of TLS?
I've said...
> SSLH will route all 443 traffic to port 5349
Non-TLS works, but that's not the issue...
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[12:20:10] <Holger> I believe you when you're saying that non-TLS works for you and TLS doesn't.  I'm confused because you're posting an issue that doesn't seem to show this.
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[12:21:06] <Alacer> Licaon_Kter: Well Just a feed back.. as Conv. Does not support TLS, I tried to  route Using SSLH in my setup while running SSLH in foregroud. So it Routes the packet to 5349 of Ejabberd but it does not work...
[12:21:39] <Holger> Conversations 2.8.2 does support it.
[12:21:43] <Holger> Older versions don't indeed.
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[12:32:54] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: I'm testing 2.8.2 from tag iirc, will rebuild HEAD and retest
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[12:34:04] <Licaon_Kter> But, as said coturn works, so either coturn is not TLS on 5349 or ejabberd has an issue.
Did not logcat yet.
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[12:37:58] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Coturn supports non-TLS connections on both ports.
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[12:38:15] <Licaon_Kter> Hmm
[12:38:29] <Licaon_Kter> Wasn't expecting that...
[12:38:50] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: If you tested with a pure TLS-only setup (as opposed to the one you posted in the issue) then the problem probably was that libwebrtc doesn't support STUNS.
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[12:39:15] <Licaon_Kter> Let me disable non-TLS for coturn and retest.
[12:39:50] <Holger> Or try the ejabberd config I posted? If it doesn't work, without sslh?
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[12:41:22] <Licaon_Kter> Holger, repost the config.
Is the use of sslh an issue, I could stop it and listen on 443 directly.
[12:41:46] <Holger> I don't know whether it's an issue.
[12:42:04] <Holger> I meant the one I posted on #3265.
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[12:43:06] <Holger> ```
listen:
  -
    module: ejabberd_stun
    transport: tcp
    port: 3478
    ip: ADDRESS
    use_turn: false
  -
    module: ejabberd_stun
    transport: tcp
    port: 5349
    ip: ADDRESS
    turn_ip: ADDRESS
    use_turn: true
    tls: true
    certfile: TLS_CERT_FILE
modules:
  mod_stun_disco:
    offer_local_services: false
    services:
      - # We need a non-TLS STUN server as libwebrtc doesn't support STUNS.
        host: stun.example.com
        type: stun
        transport: tcp
      -
        host: turns.example.com
        type: turns
        transport: tcp
```
[12:44:23] <Licaon_Kter> Oh, I looking now at the issue, did not see it.
[12:44:31] <Licaon_Kter> Oh, I'm looking now at the issue, did not see it.
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[12:50:15] <Licaon_Kter> Holger:
> Licaon_Kter: If you tested with a pure TLS-only setup (as opposed to the one you posted in the issue) then the problem probably was that libwebrtc doesn't support STUNS.
So it would never work if 3478 is blocked then?
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[12:50:37] <Holger> It would never work if you enforce TLS for STUN.
[12:51:06] <Holger> You can do non-TLS STUN on 443 of course (conversations.im does, for example).
[12:51:45] <Holger> And ejabberd enforces TLS on the TLS port, Coturn doesn't.
[12:52:07] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: So this was the issue?
[12:52:49] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Response would've been easier if you had posted your *actual* test setup then 😜
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[13:04:03] <Licaon_Kter> My test setup is there, minus the mention that non-TLS is blocked.
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[13:05:51] <Licaon_Kter> Right now, not sure how can I do both non-TLS stun AND TLS turn on 443.
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[13:06:40] <Holger> sslh should be able to distinguish them.  In principle :-)
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[13:07:09] <Licaon_Kter> Eg. Sslh keep `tls` to 5349
And maybe add another entry without `tls` under it for stun...
I'll test this too...
[13:07:13] <Holger> But I haven't tested.  Maybe that's a good use-case for Coturn.
[13:08:32] <Alacer> > Licaon_Kter Wrote:
> Eg. Sslh keep `tls` to 5349
> And maybe add another entry without `tls` under it for stun...
> I'll test this too...
Licaon_Kter let us know the outcome as well.. Thx...
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[14:17:43] <caius> > Licaon_Kter Wrote:
> Right now, not sure how can I do both non-TLS stun AND TLS turn on 443.
Why even bother? You'll see lots of perimeter firewalls blocking non-TLS traffic over 443.
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[14:24:28] <Holger> Right.  You can just offer STUN on 3478.  Clients behind restrictive firewalls will need TURN anyway and won't need STUN.
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[14:25:31] <Licaon_Kter> Wait, wasn't stun needed first then switches to turn?
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[14:26:36] <Holger> Clients will query both STUN and TURN to gather candidates to offer to the peer.  I don't think the client will refuse to query TURN if STUN fails.
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[14:28:28] <Holger> "STUN first" is only true in the sense that they'll prefer using the IP address gathered via STUN over TURN relaying, if possible.
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[14:51:43] <Licaon_Kter> Thanks
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[14:54:22] <Licaon_Kter> I can remove `ip:` from the listener, right? It binds to all interfaces
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[14:59:50] <Holger> Yes.
[15:00:54] <Licaon_Kter> `Error: "Failed to read YAML file '/usr/local/etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.yml': Syntax error on line 154 at position 9: could not find expected ':'"`
line is: `port: 3478` position 9 is the SPACE
wtf...
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[15:02:32] <Holger> Maybe an error earlier in the file that lets the parse stumble too late?
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[15:02:53] <Licaon_Kter> I'm looking...
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[15:03:34] <Holger> Or weird UTF-8 foo?
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[15:04:20] <Licaon_Kter> Maybe, I copied the snipped in Dino from above, mcedit had a strange colour of the text, I had to replace all the SPACES with SPACE again...
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[15:08:59] <Licaon_Kter> Copying from GIthub worked...
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[15:24:22] <Licaon_Kter> I can't listen to both stun and turn on the same port...
`Error: "Invalid value of option listen: Overlapping listeners found at 0.0.0.0:443"`
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[15:33:39] <Licaon_Kter> Holger, I can't test without sslh, setting 443 instead of 5349 in listener does nothing because I don't run as root :-|
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[15:41:54] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: You can't just test on 5349?
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[15:43:11] <Licaon_Kter> I thought I need to use 443 else it won't use TLS....silly me...
You are right....looking at it now
[15:43:48] <Alacer> Licaon_Kter, I agree to Holger, I kept 3478 and it worked. Removing 3478 , it failed. I was with 2.8.1, Also I kep 3478 only on TCP and it worked. wtih only 5349 it does not work. At least in my last test
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[15:44:13] <Licaon_Kter> Alacer, the TLS thing is in 2.8.2 or later
[15:44:20] <Licaon_Kter> afaik
[15:44:47] <Holger> Yes. That works with STUN on 3478 and TURN-TLS on 5349.
[15:45:07] <Alacer> Yup ... I am stuck with some office thing.. Will also give it a try for sure.. but does the statement ^^^ means we cannot run with 5349 behind sslh
[15:45:19] <Alacer> ok
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[15:45:37] <Alacer> So alone 5349 with TURN-TLS Should work then ?
[15:45:41] <Alacer> with 2.8.2
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[15:51:14] <Licaon_Kter> I'm rebuilding 2.8.2 now to be sure I have the right commits.
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[16:19:46] <Licaon_Kter> Holger, used your config snippet, not working.
I'll look at ADB now
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[16:32:59] <marc> Is it normal to have some "unauthorized" messages in the coturn logs?
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[16:35:12] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Weird.
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[16:35:23] <Licaon_Kter> yup
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[16:36:14] <Holger> marc: Not really normal no.
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[16:42:35] <marc> Holger, any idea? https://paste.centos.org/view/57943e02
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[16:43:29] <Holger> marc: Oh I'm talking nonsense, yes that's perfectly normal 🙂
[16:43:32] <Holger> Sorry.
[16:43:48] <Holger> STUN protocol is weirdo.
[16:44:06] <marc> hehe :) So it's part of the STUN protocol?
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[16:45:09] <Holger> You perform a request without providing creds, expect the not-authorized error, and then retry with creds. Because the error contains the realm and other things you need to perform the MD5 challenge-response auth.
[16:45:54] <Holger> (I was thinking of ejabberd STUN which wouldn't log these steps but only failed challenge-response auth.)
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[16:53:05] <Licaon_Kter> Holger, stopping the listeners and starting coturn instead (disabled udp and tcp, to force it only on tls), yet still does not work, so your initial hint (that coturn was not doing actually TLS either) might be correct.
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[16:59:34] <marc> Holger: understand, thanks!
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[17:01:58] <Licaon_Kter> ANother wierd thing, netstat does not show UDP LISTEN for 3478/5349 by beam.smp, is this normal? TCP ones show up
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[17:03:10] <quentin> Licaon_Kter: have you triés with -u option ?
[17:03:29] <Licaon_Kter> `sudo netstat -putanl | grep LISTEN|sort -k 2` 😉
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[17:05:23] <Licaon_Kter> Also, earlier I noticed that I was missing UDP firewall entry for 5349, but it worked without it so far 🙂
Added now, and I see some packets there too.
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[17:39:38] <ludo> Licaon_Kter: there is no LISTEN state for UDP :)
[17:40:19] <Alacer>     
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Dear(s), Keeping same configuration as per the ejabberd.yml however in mod_stun_disco() Announcing port 443 in place of 5349 and by running SSLH I get below:
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tls:connection from 205.176.101.75:50838 to 185.243.116.175:443 forwarded from ::1:33280 to ::1:9443
forward to tls failed:connect: Connection refused
tls:connection from 31.218.8.75:8896 to 185.243.116.175:443 forwarded from 127.0.0.1:35664 to 127.0.0.1:5349
forward to tls failed:connect: Connection refused
tls:connection from 31.218.8.75:8737 to 185.243.116.175:443 forwarded from 127.0.0.1:35668 to 127.0.0.1:5349
forward to tls failed:connect: Connection refused
tls:connection from 205.176.101.75:38939 to 185.243.116.175:443 forwarded from 127.0.0.1:35672 to 127.0.0.1:5349
forward to tls failed:connect: Connection refused
tls:connection from 31.218.8.75:8804 to 185.243.116.175:443 forwarded from 127.0.0.1:35676 to 127.0.0.1:5349
tls:connection from 62.210.10.77:32983 to 185.243.116.175:443 forwarded from ::1:33298 to ::1:9443
forward to tls failed:connect: Connection refused
tls:connection from 205.176.101.75:38942 to 185.243.116.175:443 forwarded from 127.0.0.1:35682 to 127.0.0.1:5349
[17:40:29] <Alacer>     
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I am not running coturn, rather I am running ejabberd_stun
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coturn also seems to be not using TLS... or it could be my confin in case of coturn
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[17:44:37] <Licaon_Kter> ludo: oh
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[17:46:05] <Licaon_Kter> Alacer: no success for me either on TLS, https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/3265
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[17:55:33] <Alacer> SUCCESS !!! Behins SSLH with ejabberd_stun
[17:55:45] <Alacer> no regix....
[17:56:10] <Licaon_Kter> um?
[17:56:20] <Alacer> and i Used SNI in sslh, with offer_loca_Service = False
[17:56:50] <Alacer> and in Mod_stun_Disco() I used port 443 in place of 5349
[17:57:00] <Alacer> against the Domain Name
[17:57:15] <Alacer> on SSLH Side you have to have the 5349 as below
[17:57:37] <Licaon_Kter> Do you have websites in your sslh.cfg? Can you share your setup?
[17:58:08] <Alacer> { name: "tls";     host: "localhost"; port: "5349"; sni_hostnames:  [ "stuns.domain.tld" ]; },
[17:58:31] <Alacer> Yes I have but I Trust you .. I can share the server to you to play with .. PM Me...
[17:58:39] <Alacer> its VPS so no Worries
[17:59:30] <Alacer> but this means that it shoudl also work with coturn
[17:59:38] <Alacer> using TLS with 2.8.2
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[18:00:25] <Alacer> please note that 5349 is the entry just above my nginx mapping as I run it as well as I have not used any regex
[18:01:26] <Licaon_Kter> Share the content of the file after you remove IPs and sensitive stuff...
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[18:02:01] <Licaon_Kter> I don't have a separate domain for stun/turn
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[18:04:19] <Holger> Right, SNI might be another trick if libwebrtc does that but not ALPN.
[18:04:39] <Alacer> Yes... and that is what I suspected...
[18:05:03] <Alacer> libWebRTC is kind of Black Box.. Even I spent day to look at the Signal's Libwebrtc-Android... and other...
[18:05:17] <Alacer> it is not well Documented as Daniel Said Earlier
[18:05:43] <Holger> Indeed.
[18:05:56] <Alacer> Sure.. Licaon_Kter, So What DO you Need... SSLH or Ejabberd.yml
[18:06:45] <Licaon_Kter> Alacer, how do you know it's using TLS?
[18:06:47] <Alacer> Holger why it worked with "offer_local_services: false"
[18:07:02] <Licaon_Kter> Holger, ^^^ I did not get why you need that line either
[18:07:34] <Alacer> I have UFW and I have below "22                      ALLOW       Anywhere                  
WWW Full                   ALLOW       Anywhere                  
60000:65000/udp            ALLOW       Anywhere                  
60000:65000/tcp            ALLOW       Anywhere                  
22 (v6)                 ALLOW       Anywhere (v6)            
WWW Full (v6)              ALLOW       Anywhere (v6)            
60000:65000/udp (v6)       ALLOW       Anywhere (v6)            
60000:65000/tcp (v6)       ALLOW       Anywhere (v6)    
[18:07:49] <Holger> It says "don't auto-announce local ejabberd_stun listeners".
[18:07:50] <Alacer> So potentially Machine is only allowing 443
[18:08:04] <Holger> I just did it that way to clarify my setup.
[18:08:19] <Holger> TLS will never be auto-announced.
[18:08:38] <Alacer> Ok... So making it true will push the traffic to 3478 as ICE and DTLS used UDP and prefers STUN
[18:08:42] <Holger> But I could've announced TLS explicitly and auto-announced STUN.
[18:08:45] <Alacer> that makes sense though
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[18:09:00] <Alacer> STUN is another un-managed kind of this
[18:09:23] <Holger> DTLS?
[18:09:38] <Holger> You guys lost me.
[18:10:15] <Holger> I think libwebrtc doesn't support DTLS for TURN at all.
[18:10:35] <Alacer> Yup LibWebRTC as I have read prefers DTLS and UDP traffic over TLS... as far as I know.. So TLS being Explicetly annouced pushes the ICE/WebRTC to take TLS route
[18:10:47] <Alacer> that is why probably "False" with SSLH works
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[18:11:10] <Holger> What what.
[18:11:30] <Holger> Please show what you've read.
[18:11:57] <Holger> It all sounds like you're mixing various things though.
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[18:12:55] <Holger> https://jabber.fu-berlin.de/share/holger/ojvHhu9Jbg5slvT5/pB9cC0HfTgSuv2DjT4wgPw.jpg
[18:12:58] <Holger> Cheers.
[18:14:35] <Alacer> Cheers... So then it should with with coturn but now coturn is irrelevant.. at least for a single server deployment.. and as it is TLS ... it is fine as you can see above in my UFW config I am also using _XMPP(S) so 443 all the way... clustering will be interesting...or may be easier do to reverse proxy...
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[18:15:19] <Holger> 🙂
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[18:16:06] <Holger> Maybe try to keep the number of topics you mention within a single message below three or so 🙂
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[18:29:08] <Alacer> Licaon_Kter: SSLH CONFIG --> https://paste.debian.net/1145876/
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[18:37:12] <Alacer> Licaon_Kter: ejabberd.yml --> https://paste.debian.net/1145878/
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[18:53:07] <Licaon_Kter> coturn mentions DTLS, TLS, TCP and UDP as supported iirc
[18:53:12] <Licaon_Kter> Alacer: will look later
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[18:55:49] <jeybe> What do y'all use for collecting metrics from ejabberd?
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[18:57:50] <Licaon_Kter> htop
[18:58:22] <jeybe> Licaon_Kter‎, I'm more looking for long-term metrics
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[19:03:26] <ij> munin?
[19:03:35] <daniel> Can I host a muc room on a domain jid with ejabberd?
[19:03:57] <mightyBroccoli> jeybe, maybe take a look at this :) https://dev.sum7.eu/sum7/ejabberd-tools
[19:05:06] <mightyBroccoli> its an prometheus / influx exporter paired with grafana you could build some nice dashboards.
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[19:09:36] <jeybe> ij‎, thanks too
[19:11:06] <Holger> > Can I host a muc room on a domain jid with ejabberd?
Nope.
[19:11:32] <Holger> Prosody FTW.
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[20:19:40] <Alacer> Holger: >Maybe try to keep the number of topics you mention within a single message below three or so > Kindly take a Look why DTLS is Preferred and the clue why we needed false. https://webrtc-security.github.io/, https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtcweb-security-05, https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2012/01/10/attack-of-week-datagram-tls/ Few Old Things but at least for me LibWebRTC is Blackbox so I assume some of this is in there...
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[20:24:58] <ij> hmmm, in table „last“ is „seconds“ unixtime?
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[22:38:31] <Steven Roose> ok so postgres always confused me
[22:38:36] <Steven Roose> how does the authentication work
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[22:39:03] <Steven Roose> at the one side it says it's based on system users, but on the other hand I see those ALTER USER xxx WITH PASSWORD yyy things
[22:39:21] <Steven Roose> to use it with ejabberd, what should be the auth line for the ejabberd database?
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[22:42:48] <ij> you mean external auth?
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[22:43:25] <Steven Roose> no I don't know. I can't get ejabberd to connect to the database
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[22:43:37] <Steven Roose> > "no pg_hba.conf entry for host \"127.0.0.1\", user \"ejabberd\", database \"ejabberd\", SSL off
[22:44:13] <Steven Roose> I set the password with `passwd ejabberd`.
[22:45:15] <ij> ah, that’s fairly easy… :)
[22:45:33] <ij> on the database server: sudo -i postgres
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[22:46:31] <ij> on the database server: sudo -i -u postgres
[22:47:34] <ij> and then as user postgres: createuser --interactive -P ejabberd
[22:47:47] <Steven Roose> ah yeah the user is there
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[22:48:12] <ij> choose wisely whether or not you need all those privileges, most likely not… so no superuser and such
[22:48:35] <Steven Roose> but wait the system user ejabberd exists and its passwrd is set
[22:48:50] <Steven Roose> now I did the ALTER USER ejabberd WITH PASSWORD 'xx'; and it seems to work
[22:49:10] <ij> the system user has nothing to do with the DB user
[22:49:25] <Steven Roose> but I thought the authentication was based on system users. So now the postgresql password can be different than the system password?
[22:49:32] <Steven Roose> > the system user has nothing to do with the DB user
how so?
[22:49:53] <Steven Roose> I can do
sudo -u ejabberd psql
and that worked
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[22:50:14] <ij> you can use something like ident or pam as auth method in pg_hba.conf
[22:52:14] <ij> „sudo -u ejabberd psql“ starts a psql shell as system user ejabberd. but that doesn’t mean you are connected to a database (maybe except template1 or so)
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[22:54:17] <ij> and remember that postgres accepts connections via socket as well
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[23:06:56] <Steven Roose> hmm
[23:07:04] <Steven Roose> well I changed the password in the databse
[23:07:09] <Steven Roose> another thing
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[23:07:44] <Steven Roose> using ejabberdctl register, I get "Error: conflict". But trying ejabberdctl change_password for the same user gives "{not_found,"unknown_user"}"
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[23:09:00] <Steven Roose> May 09 23:08:06 nixos ejabberdctl[3174]: 23:08:06.875 [error] SQL query 'INSERT INTO users(username, server_host, password) VALUES ('test', 'cypherpunks.social', 'xxxxxx');' failed: [{severity,'ERROR'},{86,<<"ERROR">>},{code,<<"42703">>},{message,<<"column \"server_host\" of relation \"users\" does not exist">>},{position,29},{file,<<"parse_target.c">>},{line,1033},{routine,<<"checkInsertTargets">>}]
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[23:09:40] <Steven Roose> I have `new_sql_schema: true` and I executed the new schema file with psql -a -f thefile.sql
[23:09:43] <ij> may it be that you started with mnesia db (the standard) and later switched to psql?
[23:09:58] <Steven Roose> no the config file never changed
[23:10:00] <ij> you need to „install“ the schema into the database
[23:10:23] <Steven Roose> yeah I thought I did that
[23:10:52] <Steven Roose> I downloaded this one: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/sql/pg.sql
[23:11:02] <ij> under /usr/share/ejabberd/sql/ there is pg.new.sql
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[23:11:40] <Steven Roose> oh really
[23:11:50] <Steven Roose> I got linked from here: https://docs.ejabberd.im/developer/sql-schema/
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[23:12:13] <ij> you need to run something like psql -U ejabberd -f /path/to/pg.new.sql
[23:12:23] <ij> erm
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[23:12:53] <ij> you need to run something like psql -U ejabberd -f /path/to/pg.new.sql ejabberd
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[23:19:55] <Steven Roose> yeah just did that
[23:19:58] <Steven Roose> I had the wrong file
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[23:20:02] <Steven Roose> working now, thanks
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[23:23:03] <Steven Roose> just to make sure, ejabberdctl reload-config updates the certificate files, right?
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[23:25:31] <ij> don’t think so… most likely it will reopen and re-read the SSL certs, but not renew/generate it
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[23:28:49] <Steven Roose> yeah that's what I mean
[23:29:01] <Steven Roose> that's what should be in the Let's Encrypt postRun script
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[23:33:45] <Steven Roose> Is there some existing system/module that allows for existing users to invite new users in some way?
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[23:34:02] <Steven Roose> I have some small hand-rolled server that works with invite codes I manually generate
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[23:34:19] <Steven Roose> Something out of the box would be nice and something where not just me can invite users
[23:36:40] <Steven Roose> (Fwiw I'm building a NixOS setup that I'm planning to open source
[23:36:42] <Steven Roose> (Fwiw I'm building a NixOS setup that I'm planning to open source)
[23:36:57] <ij> no idea… maybe that’s better asked when more experienced people are awake here .)
[23:37:39] <Steven Roose> yeah no worries
[23:37:48] <Steven Roose> just asking in case someone is online in the morning tomorrow
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