Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Wednesday, May 13, 2020< ^ >
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[00:05:14] <Alacer> Well A little out of Context here but anyone ever tried scaleway.com services? Thx.
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[03:58:16] <Ellenor Malik> I was a beta tester
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[03:58:17] <Ellenor Malik> twas nice
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[05:49:58] <Alacer> Thx.. So recommended. Also Do they Use KVM as Hypervisor for their VPS or OpenVZ etc.
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[07:37:18] <marc> Holger, I get an erlang shell
[07:37:57] <Holger> marc, and the service is working?
[07:38:36] <marc> Holger, I get no messages at all in the shell, so I guess no?
[07:38:53] <Holger> Probably not.
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[08:51:08] <marc> Holger, wtf, 18.04 works fine on the clean installation
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[08:51:47] <Licaon_Kter> marc: so old....
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[08:52:29] <marc> Licaon_Kter, yep, I would like to migrate from 18.04 to master
[08:52:37] <marc> But it seems there is something odd with it
[08:54:01] <Licaon_Kter> marc: using SQL or Mnesia?
[08:54:39] <marc> Licaon_Kter, default clean basic installation of ejabberd (--enable-mysql --enable-user=ejabberd)
[08:54:51] <marc> template config
[08:55:23] <Licaon_Kter> This is a running server, I was asking about DB because of the migration steps from some versions
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[08:56:13] <marc> but I tested master on buster with template config etc
[08:56:43] <Licaon_Kter> Upgrade Procedure for ejabberd | ejabberd Docs - https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/upgrade/#specific-version-upgrade-notes
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[08:57:04] <marc> Licaon_Kter, I know but ejabberd doesn't even work with plain config
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[08:57:22] <marc> I won't upgrade until it works with the basic setup
[08:57:28] <Licaon_Kter> I've read your reports...not sure what happens there...
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[08:58:15] <marc> testing 19.04 now
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[08:58:43] <marc> well, 19.09 :)
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[09:03:37] <marc> 19.09.1 works as well
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[09:15:49] <marc> okay, for whatever fucking reason it works now. Maybe I missed an erlang package which is not necessary during compliation but when running ejabberd?
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[09:16:39] <Licaon_Kter> marc: `erlang-nox` and `erlang-dev` iirc
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[09:17:15] <mfoss> marc: why not use binary releases instead of source from master?
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[09:17:55] <marc> mfoss, I like compiling things :)
[09:18:16] <marc> mfoss, is the ejabberd package up-to-date?
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[09:19:45] <mfoss> marc: debian package from apt i believe is not. i recommend deb package from official download page https://www.process-one.net/en/ejabberd/downloads/
[09:20:48] <Licaon_Kter> marc: already in Testing iirc
[09:20:54] <mfoss> just keep in mind that upgrading from several versions back should also mean going through the upgrade procedures linked above by @Licaon_Kter - otherwise things will get messy ;)
[09:20:55] <marc> didn't know they provide deb packages, I though most people use some backport package
[09:21:48] <Holger> Yeah the official package is well-maintained by debalance and usually the current release ends up in stable-backports in a timely manner.
[09:22:17] <Holger> s/they/you/, mfoss works for ProcessOne BTW :-)
[09:23:01] <marc> ah :D
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[09:24:31] <mfoss> Holger is correct on both accounts :)
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[09:25:53] <mfoss> BTW fresh debian install, on a vps for example, doesn’t include stable-backports by default in apt sources. But once you add it maintaining ejabberd through apt might be easier.
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[09:26:56] <mfoss> I still have to test what happens with apt when there’s an additional upgrade procedure for between version. So far I’ve been using the official .deb via wget and executing manually.
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[09:28:19] <Holger> mfoss: With "upgrade procedure" you mean SQL schema changes?  There's no magic in Debian to apply them, so admins still have to do those manually.
[09:29:33] <mfoss> Holger: yeah, i mean those. too bad. it would be nice if apt could do that magically, or at least provide clean instructions after upgrade, but i don’t know if it’s possible at all.
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[09:30:52] <Holger> Back in the days Evgeny was dreaming of _us_ applying them magically :-)
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[09:32:05] <Holger> I think it's possible but non-trivial to get right, esp. if you want to support upgrades across several versions.  And it might mess custom schema changes admins might apply (but yes most admins won't do that).
[09:32:22] <Holger> *might mess with ...
[09:33:34] <mfoss> Yeah, lots of scenarios to cover, not very feasible.
[09:34:16] <Holger> At least the required changes are now nicely documented.
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[09:36:00] <ij> @mfoss, usually the maintainer should add some news for apt-listchanges, so you should be aware of important changes
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[09:36:16] <ij> of course this requires to have apt-listchanges installed and read the news ;)
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[09:41:37] <mfoss> :)
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[10:24:44] <madmalkav> Applying a SQL file is easy. But please don't make me do the stop ejabberd/apply sql/update ejabberd/modify config yo start without listeners/run ejabberdctl command/modify config to enable listeners/start ejabberd dance again
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[12:47:24] <Neustradamus_> Good news: https://twitter.com/neustradamus/status/1260551881471950848
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[15:54:41] <raver> Habe to say Thank you @Daniel Gultsch and @Holger. Video telephony works great 👍👌✌️
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[15:54:56] <raver> Have to say Thank you @Daniel Gultsch and @Holger. Video telephony works great 👍👌✌️
[15:55:08] <nuron> Höhö, wenn die deutsche Autokorrektur kickt 🤣
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[15:56:35] <raver> nuron: 😁✌️
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[16:33:15] <tao> hey all. how risky is it to call methods like :ejabberd_oauth.oauth_issue_token/3 from an elixir app embedding ejabberd?
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[20:16:54] <jeybe> Any news on the 20.04 backport?
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[20:32:43] <Licaon_Kter> jeybe, already in testing and unstable\
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[20:33:45] <jeybe> Licaon_Kter: Yeah, read that, but what does that mean 🤔?
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[20:35:53] <Licaon_Kter> jeybe: that you need to wait more...
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