Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Friday, May 29, 2020< ^ >
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Room Configuration
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[07:22:00] <mfoss> Curious, what’s the benefit of using an install script building from source over deb binary?
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[07:27:02] <Alacer> mfoss: Latest Patches in even if the release is late. Well it depends but In cases it's  good for public servers
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[07:28:34] <Licaon_Kter> Alacer: he means debs from process-one website....which are released right away
[07:29:19] <Alacer> Also This takes the Burden of Server Admins to Quickly Test any upcomig feature prior to release to Report it in lets say in same MUC or be ready for any issues as Public Servers also have Bashing from Public if they go down..
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[07:30:31] <Alacer> Licaon_Kter: Well I think Debs are released when the release is tagged. The Build Script take it from MAIN HEAD. It also a matter if choice...
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[12:46:52] <mfoss> @alacer: ok, thanks, good points. building from master in between releases 👍
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[12:55:28] <Matthias> Hi. I just tried to install ejabberd 20.04 on openSUSE LEAP 15.1 using the installer. When starting the server I get the following error message:
[12:55:37] <Matthias> Failed to load NIF library: '/usr/lib64/libcrypto.so.1.0.0: version `OPENSSL_1.0.1' not found
[12:55:48] <Matthias> I have openssl 1.1 installed on that server, but ejabberd 20.03 was running fine.
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[12:57:34] <Holger> Matthias: You could open an issue on GitHub for that: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/new/choose
[12:57:45] <Matthias> Sure
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[12:59:30] <Holger> Matthias: Also I think the SUSE package is well-maintained.
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[13:06:11] <Holger> Matthias: https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=devel:languages:erlang&package=ejabberd
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[13:38:36] <Matthias> Holger: Until now I was very happy with the installer, that's why I kept using it.
[13:39:02] <Holger> I see.  Thanks for the ticket.
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[13:44:41] <Matthias> I'm looking forward to the solution ;-). Thanks for the help.
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[14:43:23] <nuron> Will it work to fully monitore ejabberd with zabbix?
[14:43:29] <nuron> Are there any solutions yet?
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[14:47:41] <Holger> nuron: How did you get to Zabbix? 🙂
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[14:48:35] <nuron> I'm not using it yet. But I have to rebuild my monitoring setup and because of this I'm looking for some.more monitoring solutions. Maybe there is one I like more then Prometheus ;)
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[15:04:38] <Holger> Ah.
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[15:05:14] <Holger> Yeah I don't really like Prometheus either but that's the hype ...
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[15:06:37] <Holger> Zabbix wants to be a black box that ships everything you need built-in, Nagios/Icinga has the concept of separate "plugins" (simple executables/scripts) that perform the actual checks.  Which I like as it's *very* simple to write your own plugins.
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[15:07:13] <Holger> Matthias, the SUSE maintainer says you might just want to install `libopenssl1_0_0`.
[15:07:22] <Holger> If you don't want to install his package for some reason 😉
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[15:09:04] <Matthias> Holger: Actually, I would not want to downgrade the openssl library. Especially since 20.03 was working fine.
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[15:09:18] <Holger> Ah, I was assuming both could be installed in parallel.
[15:09:21] <Holger> Whatever, then.
[15:09:43] <Matthias> I tried that but it seems like it's one or the other.
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[15:10:16] <Matthias> And there is more on that server that need openssl - so I would like to use the most recent version.
[15:10:18] <Holger> I remember ProcessOne's packages shipping libssl.so.  Dunno whether this is no longer done (on purpose?) or just no longer works.
[15:10:37] <Holger> But of course that's problematic anyway, in case there's security issues.
[15:10:46] <Matthias> Yes, indeed.
[15:10:50] <Holger> And not shipping it is problematic because then you run into issues like yours.
[15:10:59] <Matthias> ;-)
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[15:11:10] <Holger> Which is why I'm a fan of distribution packages.
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[15:11:30] <nuron> I'm not sure which system would fit most for my usecase...
I have a few servers to be monitored and some services on it.
All I want is a running system that will inform me if something is broken...
Everything else is not really important...
[15:11:32] <Matthias> I just trying out the opensuse package as you suggested.
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[15:11:52] <Holger> 👍️
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[15:12:33] <Holger> nuron, then something smaller would probably be good enough, and less hassle to set up.  But I have no good suggestion.
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[15:13:56] <nuron> Yes, I guess something small would be enough. But I'm not sure which software I want to use...
One good point of Prometheus is that all of my servers are running a node exporter yet ;)
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[15:16:34] <Holger> nuron, something like this, but it's unmaintained as the author is now using Prometheus: https://kanla.zekjur.net
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[15:19:28] <nuron> I need to have a look at all this muche more then I did until now I guess..
Its really complex
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[15:25:57] <mss_cyclist> nuron, would munin be an alternative?
[15:26:13] <nuron> I don't know munin yet ;)
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[15:27:12] <mss_cyclist> It is quite ok for monitoring. At least if you like those rrd graphs
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[15:27:49] <Holger> https://stats.jabber.at
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[15:28:24] <Licaon_Kter> Had Netdata at one point, it used more memory and cpu 2x-3x times over the actual services...terrible
...on a RPi ;)
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[15:28:58] <nuron> Ah I see..  I do know these graphs, but didn't know that it is munin
[15:29:17] <nuron> > Licaon_Kter Wrote:
> Had Netdata at one point, it used more memory and cpu 2x-3x times over the actual services...terrible
> ...on a RPi ;)
So no netdata? 😅
[15:29:20] <mss_cyclist> Yup.
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[15:31:40] <mss_cyclist> I see. Netdata looks more polished. But on the otherhand it seems to be overkill to just graph three little boxes
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[15:31:58] <mss_cyclist> I can imagine that it was too much for the rpi ;-P
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[15:32:52] <nuron> Maybe I should just stay with Prometheus..
[15:33:00] <mss_cyclist> Lol
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[15:33:09] <nuron> It worked so far for me ;)
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[15:44:31] <Licaon_Kter> Maybe on those 32 cores, 64GB, 4GHz boxes a fancy monitoring system does not even register as "usage"
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[15:59:50] <juan> Licaon_Kter: do you use mnesia con your rPi?
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[16:00:43] <Licaon_Kter> juan: I'm no noob lol
PG
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[16:13:33] <juan> cool. I want to migrate from mnesia to PG too. beam.smp is eating all my cpu in what I believe are db lookups
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[16:23:05] <Pitho> Licaon_Kter: Any reason to prefer PG over MariaDB for ejabberd?
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[17:40:58] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: what magic from the future is this 6 thing? :)
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[17:46:56] <Alacer> Holger: Thanks... ipv6 it is ;)
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[17:48:19] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: 🤷
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[17:51:26] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: who decided?
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[18:01:42] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: mikl said `turn_ipv6` I said "meh" we ended up with `_address` 😉
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[18:11:36] <mightyBroccoli> nuron: maybe take a look at this https://dev.sum7.eu/sum7/ejabberd-tools we have both an influx and Prometheus exporter.
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[18:12:45] <juan> for me listen_address would be better (but longer), as I was confused about if this was the listening IP or the advertised IP
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[18:14:51] <Holger> juan: I'm confused :-)
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[18:16:07] <juan> me too! 🤯️
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[18:17:25] <Holger> juan: The STUN/TURN server listens on one or more IP addresses.  This is specified with the listener option `ip` (which defaults to 0.0.0.0, which tells ejabberd to listen on all IP addresses).  During the TURN communication, it offers the client an IP address/port to use for relaying.  I.e. the TURN server will listen on that address/port for the duration of the TURN session.  The address is the `turn_ipv4/6_address`.
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[18:20:48] <Holger> `turn_ipv6_relayed_transport_address`.  Is what the RFC would've called it.
[18:20:48] <juan> turn_ipv4/6_address is the same as the old turn_ip?
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[18:20:52] <Holger> Yes.
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[18:22:00] <Holger> Well `turn_ipv4_address` is the same, and the new v6 support required new names.
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[18:22:08] <juan> ook, so I was missing the `ip` bit
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[18:22:55] <Holger> I named it `turn_v4/6_ip` and then people were unhappy :-)
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[18:23:01] <juan> but there is also the `host:` option under `mod_stun_disco: services: `
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[18:23:08] <Holger> Yes!
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[18:24:18] <Holger> That's announced to clients and points to the listener `ip`.  Can be a host name or an IPv4 address or an IPv6 address.
[18:24:37] <juan> I had to use this last one because my server is behind NAT and with dynamic IP, so using hostname for `host:`
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[18:25:16] <Holger> That's fine, but you still need to specify the `turn_ip` ...
[18:25:31] <Holger> Which is of course meh with dynamic IP addresses.
[18:26:15] <juan> but you cannot set 0.0.0.0 for `turn_ip`, as I wrongly believed, neither a hostname
[18:26:20] <Holger> Right.
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[18:27:19] <Holger> Because the protocol works the way I explained above.  The TURN server gives the client an IP address/port for relaying.  That address can obviously not be 0.0.0.0, and the protocol doesn't support announcing a host name here.
[18:27:22] <Alacer> > Holger Wrote:
> `turn_ipv6_relayed_transport_address`.  Is what the RFC would've called it.
Thank Good its not that long.. even typing "turn_ipv4_address:" seems little longer but well anyways...
[18:27:28] <juan> I guess I have no other option but to invoke a script to change ejabberd.yml upon DDNS change
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[18:28:00] <Holger> juan: Yes, I suggested others something like https://userpage.fu-berlin.de/holger/archive/check-turn-ip ...
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[18:28:50] <Holger> juan: And once you do that, you no longer need to use the `services:` `host:` thing, as mod_turn_disco will fall back to announcing the `turn_ip:` by default (if your `ip:` is 0.0.0.0 or not specified).
[18:28:52] <Alacer> > Holger Wrote:
> Because the protocol works the way I explained above.  The TURN server gives the client an IP address/port for relaying.  That address can obviously not be 0.0.0.0, and the protocol doesn't support announcing a host name here.
That is not advertised in Stun Disco as service by server or client also gets this Listener Config from server
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[18:30:38] <juan> nice, thx
[18:30:39] <Holger> mod_stun_disco announces a STUN/TURN host name/address/port.  STUN/TURN client connects to that address/port.  During the TURN communication, the TURN server announces the `turn_ipv4/6_address` and a random port to the client; to be used for relaying.
[18:31:35] <Holger> juan: You could subscribe https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/3278 but I don't think people will convince me to support those kind of hacks.
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[18:32:30] <juan> is it a protocol restriction that the TURN server cannot announce a hostname?
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[18:32:56] <Holger> juan: As I mention in my last comment there, the one thing I'd like to fix is that ejabberd currently needs a restart (or some `ejabberdctl debug` magic) to change the `turn_ip`.  So then a script such the above can just `reload-config`.
[18:33:01] <Holger> juan: Yes.
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[18:33:30] <Holger> juan: The TURN RFC wasn't written with TURN servers behind consumer NATs with dynamic IP addresses in mind ;-)
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[18:34:11] <juan> yeah.. a ejabberd restart is overkill for just that. But you could resort to using an external TURN server like coturn
[18:34:41] <Holger> You'd have the same issue if Coturn is behind a dynamic IP address though.
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[18:35:31] <Holger> Unless I'm overlooking something.  Some comment on that issue says Coturn would just work but that's nonsense, unless I'm totally overlooking something.
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[18:37:32] <juan> but you could then restart just coturn on every IP change instead of the whole ejabberd
[18:37:40] <Holger> Ah, indeed.
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[18:51:29] <Alacer> juan: "but you could then restart just coturn on every IP change instead of the whole ejabberd" > Implies a coturn restart every 30 minutes or 1 hour or so in some ISP Cases. Once 24 Hours is fine but what if coturn starts during a call... Its easy to say it will be a re-call but user will be annoyes especially 1 hour based restart and if users like long calls...
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[18:52:42] <Holger> My own ISP only changes the IP on router restart. But yes I would not recommend running TURN behind a dynamic IP address.
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[18:54:54] <Alacer> BY the way if it's a Geeky/Nerd Setup a Home with ejabberd_Stun module being used as TURN relay this discusison seems to have a valid point but for a TURN Server like COTURN it could be hosted on a 3-5$ Cloud VPS with permenant IP Address.... Why Coturn for home setup is required in the first place?
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[19:50:35] <iobug> Holger: and what you think if I use DynDNS service and STUN/TURN? I am looking for this solution in my case. I use dyndns name on my router, on my real domainname.com SRV records are pointed  to that dyn-name.
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[19:51:06] <iobug> In the config file I can set dyn-name too
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[19:59:22] <Holger> What option in what config file?
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[20:01:36] <stefan_> The ip has to be specified for the stun/turn service as far as i know.. the bash script works very good! (ejabberd is restarted 1 time a day because of the ip change). thank you for that Holger!
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[20:40:55] <Licaon_Kter> Alacer: because you have a NAT in the house and your contact has a house with their own NAT :)
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[20:47:21] <stefan_> hello.. i tried a setup with 2 sql databases, but i don't have the correct syntax yet.. does anybody know how this has to be?
[20:47:25] <stefan_> hosts:
  - "server1.com":
    sql_database: "ejabberd"
  - "server2.com":
    sql_database: "ejabberd2"
  - "localhost"
[20:47:31] <stefan_> this doesn't work.
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[20:47:59] <stefan_> Failed to start ejabberd application: Invalid value of option hosts->1: Expected string, got map instead
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[20:52:10] <stefan_> do this options have to be unter "host_config:" ? does this replace the "hosts" section ? or is it in addition?
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[21:02:00] <Holger> stefan_: Yes they have to be under host_config, and yes that's in addition to the hosts list.
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[21:02:45] <stefan_> thank you Holger!
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