Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Saturday, May 30, 2020< ^ >
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[03:41:05] <Neustradamus_> ejabberd informations are good here?
- https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Multi-Session_Nicks
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[06:33:24] <mfoss> According to ejabberd docs “TURN auth support will not be working with SCRAM”. Is it accurate? Does it mean we need to store passwords in plaintext for stun/turn to work? https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/authentication/#internal
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[06:39:52] <rintinfinn> mfoss: no. holger fixed it in the last release.
[06:40:15] <rintinfinn> the doc is not up to date
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[06:41:56] <Licaon_Kter> rintinfinn: nope
[06:42:17] <Licaon_Kter> mfoss: yes, classic STUN/TURN for users you need static plaintext passwords
[06:42:38] <Licaon_Kter> > mfoss: no. holger fixed it in the last release.
Nope, he implemented 0215 where the user gets temp creds
[06:43:01] <rintinfinn> ah, I see.
[06:43:09] <Licaon_Kter> Eg. You can't use stun_disco for SIP
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[07:40:03] <Holger> Maybe we should mention mod_stun_disco there though, to avoid that confusion.
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[09:47:41] <Pitho> Holger: If I use MariaDB, is it recommend to compile ejabberd with --enable-new-sql-scheme?
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[09:48:31] <Pitho> Holger: If I use MariaDB, is it recommend to compile ejabberd with --enable-new-sql-schema?
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[09:54:49] <Pitho> Found it
> With the new database schema, all the tables that include the username, have also server_host. This means you can set one single database to serve all the virtual hosts. This is not enabled by default and needs explicit configuration in ejabberd.yml file.
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[09:56:00] <Holger> Right. Just use what you prefer.
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[09:59:52] <Pitho> But this also already apply to mysql and sqlite? the quote from above is from 18.06's changelog
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[10:02:21] <zuglufttier> There is hope for a working iOS client!
[10:02:22] <zuglufttier> https://twitter.com/iNPUTmice/status/1264476405053734912
[10:02:33] <zuglufttier> I hope Daniel will do it.
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[10:08:39] <Pitho> But this would also mean he had to maintain 3 projects simultaneously: Conversations for Android, ConversatiOS and letters. Maybe it's time a second dev joins the company.
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[10:20:08] <zuglufttier> Conversations itself seems to be in a pretty good state and the iOS client may generate a bit of an income for him while the e-mail app is something for the nerds 😀
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[10:23:23] <Holger> Pitho: I'd have to check the details for SQLite (as there's some magic to auto-import the schema) but I'm on my phone and you said you're using MariaDB anyway?
[10:24:04] <Holger> Pitho: Apart from that both schemas are supported with all SQL engines.
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[10:26:04] <Pitho> Holger: Thanks, that's all I wanted to know
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[13:23:38] <Pitho> What does this mean?
> 2020-05-30 14:18:38.930 [error] <0.580.0>@ejabberd_sql:report_overload:874 SQL connection pool is overloaded, discarding stale requests
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[13:42:13] <ij> Pitho: you may want to adjust sql_pool_size… this pool size setting is per vhost, so when you have 10 vhosts with 20 pool size that’s 200 connections
[13:42:52] <Pitho> Thanks, a restart has resolved it.
[13:43:30] <Pitho> Another question I moved from mnesia to mysql following https://docs.ejabberd.im/tutorials/mysql/
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[13:43:43] <Pitho> now it says  Failed c2s SCRAM-SHA-1 authentication for
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[13:43:54] <Pitho> Invalid username or password
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[13:44:55] <Pitho> > auth_method: sql
> auth_password_format: scram
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before I had auth_method: internal
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[14:03:03] <Holger> ij, Pitho: BTW I see no problem with hundreds of SQL connections, except I think MariaDB has a 256 (or something) connection limit which must be bumped if you host many domains.
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[14:04:04] <Holger> Pitho: No idea, usually SCRAM hashes should be converted from Mnesia to SQL just fine.
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[14:06:34] <ij> holger: well, when I did understand this correctly, some buffer settings in mysql is per connection… if you only have ejabberd using that mysql, it may be fine… if you use mysql for various apps this may count into high memory consumption of mysql
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[14:12:40] <Alacer> For STUN/TURN I had no issue with default (SCRAM) Passwords in Ejabberd, Plain is for mod_sip
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[14:36:04] <Neustradamus_> Holger:
In  configure.ac:
[AC_HELP_STRING([--enable-all], [same as --enable-odbc --enable-mysql --enable-pgsql --enable-sqlite --enable-pam --enable-zlib --enable-redis --enable-elixir --enable-stun --enable-sip --enable-debug --enable-tools (useful for Dialyzer checks, default: no)])],
-> --enable-mssql is not here
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[14:48:13] <Pitho> Holger, ij: I changed at least the auth to internal agin. Everything works now, except that all rosters are empty 🤔
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[14:48:37] <Pitho> Anyway, I'm on the run now
[14:48:47] <Pitho> Thanks, though!
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[15:43:24] <Holger> Neustradamus_: I think --enable-all is mostly used for the test suite and at least Travis doesn't have MS-SQL.
[15:44:11] <Holger> But of course it could be added to -all and then explicitly disabled for Travis. I don't care.
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[16:26:01] <Licaon_Kter> Alacer:
> For STUN/TURN I had no issue with default (SCRAM) Passwords in Ejabberd
Without stun_disco you mean?
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[17:29:13] <Licaon_Kter> Alacer: as said the other day, temp creds for turn via stun_disco have nothing to do with scram or the way turn creds work for sip (creds for users as normal)
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[17:31:47] <Alacer> Licaon_Kter: Thx. I know I believe some here was asking about The requirement if Plain Text Password for TURN Auth. I had no issues with ejabberd internal TURN with Default SCRAM. mod_sip is known to require PLAIN Text...
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[18:06:24] <Holger> Seems we fail at explaining how things work 🙂
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[18:08:10] <Holger> If the TURN client tries to authenticate using your XMPP username/password, it will fail with SCRAM hashes.  Conversations doesn't do that but uses temporary credentials offered by mod_stun_disco for TURN auth instead, so it doesn't matter whether the regular XMPP passwords are SCRAM-hashed.  That's the main reason something like mod_stun_disco was needed in the first place.
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[18:25:45] <Alacer> Holger: Thanks It much clear now. So Temp Credentials are in Memory in case of Internal TURN server (ejabberd_stun).
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[18:27:12] <Holger> You could think of it that way 🙂
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[18:28:43] <Alacer> Thanks...
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[18:29:33] <Holger> Temporary credentials are derived using a master secret. If you didn't configure this secret explicitly, then it's a random secret which is only stored in memory. (But it's not like the actual credentials are in memory, they can be verified by re-deriving the temporary password from the temporary username and the master secret.)
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[18:30:39] <Holger> As Coturn (and others) support the same mechanism, it works with those as well.
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[18:31:09] <Pitho> Licaon_Kter, Holger: I upgraded from a RPi2B (raspbian, samsung evo, mnesia) to an RBi3B+ (rasp os 64 bit,  transcend extreme, mysql) and now calls connect instantly like for c.im instead of a 2-4 seconds delay :)
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[18:34:15] <Alacer> Master Secret here is similar to "static-auth-secret" in COTURN?
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[18:35:23] <Alacer> and it is configured in enabberd_stun_disco as "secret:Cytrographic" etc.
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[19:09:41] <Licaon_Kter> Pitho: same exact config for ejabberd?
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