ejabberd - Tuesday, June 9, 2020

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[08:00:03] <Servant> Holger: messaging.one is running ejabberd version 20.04.61-messaging.one on unix/linux 4.19.0
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[08:05:44] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> @version emevth.no-ip.biz
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[08:06:06] <Servant> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: emevth.no-ip.biz is running ejabberd version 20.04.11 on unix/linux 5.4.0
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[10:17:48] <Holger> In case someone is interested, daniel and me will give a short introduction to the technologies used to implement A/V with Conversations/ejabberd tomorrow at 6pm.  Will take place on Jitsi Meet and streamed to YouTube: https://0x0.st/Hxz3
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[10:22:56] <Licaon_Kter> Neah, no one cares...
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[10:32:02] <Ellenor Malik> Licaon_Kter: you don't care but you aren't everyone
[10:32:16] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Ellenor Malik, Y U can't into joke?
[10:32:28] <Ellenor Malik> you tell me
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[10:39:00] <Holger> Licaon_Kter is a troublemaker.
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[10:39:46] <Licaon_Kter> /me is not
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[10:44:00] <badlop> STUN-TURN server ports range risks
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/62273293/stun-turn-server-ports-range-risks
[10:44:53] <Ellenor Bjornsdottir> nothing can ever be secure
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[10:46:12] <Holger> Having an admin who's obviously clueless of the implications of an 'open port' run a public service is a security risk indeed.
[10:46:18] <badlop> this guy wants to use a feature, but doesn't want to open the ports, i guess he should use telepathy :)
[10:47:01] <Ellenor Bjornsdottir> > Holger Wrote:
> Having an admin who's obviously clueless of the implications of an 'open port' run a public service is a security risk indeed.
I think most people play them up too much.
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[10:49:54] <Holger> Ellenor Malik: The point is, a port that's not packet-filtered obviously buys an attacker nothing.  A service listening on a port that's not packet-filtered might, if it's vulnerable to some attack.  So yes "opening" a port can be a security risk _if_ you're running such a service.  If you're not aware whether you're running such a service you should shut down the server.
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[10:52:01] <Holger> ejabberd's STUN/TURN support might obviously be such a service if it has some exploitable vulnerability.  If so then running it is a risk.  But that's not the guys point, he'd be happy if TURN was only listening on a single port.  As if listening on 100 ports makes it more exploitable.
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[12:04:53] <Holger> Yay first call on messaging.one using our TURN code as stand-alone server.
[12:04:58] <Holger> Buys you nothing but so exciting!
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[12:09:41] <Licaon_Kter> Maybe you can TURN more admin away from coturn :)
[12:09:47] <Licaon_Kter> Maybe you can TURN more admins away from coturn :)
[12:10:24] <Holger> That's the goal!
[12:10:57] <Holger> I have no selling point above Coturn but apart from that the plan is awesome.
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[12:18:51] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> Holger STUN_disco is really not necessary?
[12:19:03] <Holger> It's necessary.
[12:19:06] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i mean i use standard config as recommended by you
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[12:19:32] <Holger> Whatever I recommend is obviously correct 😂️
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[12:22:29] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> that'S correct SIR
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[12:23:13] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> I appologize only having thught U ight not be right in any cases .
[12:23:19] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> I am full of shame :O
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[15:15:21] <nico> damn that line was smooth.
[15:16:02] <nuron> 🤣
[15:16:30] <mightyBroccoli> nuron, did you take a look at the ejabberd metrics exporter I posted?
[15:16:52] <nuron> Uhm, which one did you posted?
[15:16:54] <nuron> mightyBroccoli:
[15:17:28] <mightyBroccoli> > https://dev.sum7.eu/sum7/ejabberd-tools
^ this
[15:18:21] <nuron> Oh yes! I just need some time and a bit more knowledge to install it 😃
[15:18:32] <nuron> But it looks like it is the best exporter for the moment
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[15:21:25] <mightyBroccoli> We really need to improve the readme :D If you need help I could help you with that.
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[15:23:23] <nuron> Yes, you should do that ;)
I've texted genofire some hours ago, but I don't have time for installing this before tomorrow afternoon :/
[15:23:29] <nuron> But thanks for your offer!
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[16:32:12] <vasuta> Hello
[16:33:16] <vasuta> I have mistake with
ejabberdctl registered_users xmpp.jp
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[16:34:43] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Umm?
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[16:36:50] <vasuta> Wassup
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[16:38:26] <vasuta> Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]: ?
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[16:39:26] <Licaon_Kter> vasuta: what's that about?
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[16:40:04] <vasuta> I want get registered_users for xmpp.jp
[16:40:11] <vasuta> But i have mistake in terminal
[16:40:19] <vasuta> "unknown virtual host"
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[16:40:53] <Licaon_Kter> vasuta: yes, you can use commands in YOUR LOCAL server....only...as expected
[16:41:28] <vasuta> How i can use for any server ?
[16:41:53] <vasuta> Not for hacking and criminal
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[16:44:33] <vasuta> Licaon_Kter: ?
[16:46:26] <Licaon_Kter> vasuta: you can't, why would you be allowed?
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[16:47:00] <vasuta> For cooperation
[16:47:06] <vasuta> Why i can't
[16:47:10] <vasuta> What problem
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[16:48:19] <vasuta> Holger: online ?
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[16:49:25] <Holger> vasuta: You can't. End of story.
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[16:52:02] <vasuta> Why
[16:52:08] <vasuta> What reason
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[16:55:42] <Licaon_Kter> vasuta: why would anyone allow random anon vasuta anything on their server?
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[16:57:06] <vasuta> because the Internet is a free thing
[16:57:10] <vasuta> freedom
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[16:57:38] <vasuta> I don't want to harm the server
[16:58:06] <vasuta> Licaon_Kter: why you can't help
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[17:00:05] <Holger> vasuta: Can you give me your online banking credentials please? Won't do any harm but the Internet is a free place you know.
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[17:00:20] <Licaon_Kter> vasuta: can you tell me how to get WA users numbers? They run ejabberd too iirc
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[17:02:39] <vasuta> gentlemen you are going to extremes
[17:03:10] <vasuta> Holger: online banking VS nicknames for jabber server
[17:03:18] <vasuta> Licaon_Kter: i don't understand what is
[17:03:28] <Licaon_Kter> vasuta: Whatsapp
[17:04:35] <vasuta> Holger, Licaon_Kter:
Banks and WhatsApp are things controlled by the state
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[17:05:07] <Holger> vasuta: Stop spamming this room please.
[17:05:21] <vasuta> jabber was created for free communication
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[17:05:28] <vasuta> Where here spam
[17:05:31] <vasuta> I ask one question
[17:05:38] <Holger> You got an answer.
[17:05:48] <vasuta> You don't want help
[17:05:59] <vasuta> But you ejabberd development
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[17:14:28] <vasuta> Licaon_Kter: give me your jabber id
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[17:15:21] <Licaon_Kter> vasuta: use your mad hacker skills
[17:16:30] <vasuta> Why you kidding
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[17:18:59] <mphilippi> Hi guys! I've set up an ejabberd server using the official docker image and migrated my prosody installation to ejabberd. The server is running for a few days and the users seem to be happy about it. I wanted to activate captcha for the registration but it looks like the shell script captcha.sh and imagemagick is missing. Can the functionality be added for the next release? The default config file also contains deprecated options for 20.04.
Anyway, thank you so much for your work on this great piece of software!
[17:19:08] <vasuta> nuron: where
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[17:23:08] <mightyBroccoli> nuron, I added the documentation :)
[17:23:48] <nuron> Awesome! mightyBroccoli
[17:24:09] <Holger> mphilippi: You might want to post an issue on GitHub. (At least I for one am not into the Docker stuff, sorry.)
[17:24:56] <nuron> So I need influxdb as well? And how do I start the application? I never really used python before 🤷‍♂️
[17:24:58] <nuron> mightyBroccoli:
[17:26:20] <mphilippi> Holger: Thanks for your heads-up
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[17:28:49] <nuron> In the project description there is an 'und'. I guess it should be an 'and'. Maybe you want to fix that as well mightyBroccoli
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[17:29:11] <mightyBroccoli> nuron, You could use influxdb or prometheus to capture the data for a fact you could parse the resulting json yourself to do all kinds of things. I do use influx, iirc geno uses prometheus.
To use influx for example you could run the ejabberd-influxdb.service. I forgot to add that to the docs
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[17:29:27] <mightyBroccoli> > In the project description there is an 'und'. I guess it should be an 'and'. Maybe you want to fix that as well mightyBroccoli
whoops I will fix that too :D
[17:30:25] <nuron> mightyBroccoli: well, I'm running Prometheus on all my other hosts, so I would use it here as well, if it works fine so far
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[17:35:55] <mightyBroccoli> at least geno is not complaining ... too much :D
So I guess you could assume it is working ok :D
[17:39:09] <nuron> Yeah, sure 😎
[17:39:17] <nuron> grafana.sum7.eu looks quite fine
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[17:50:44] <Licaon_Kter> The problem with ejabberd is that it's noo light. They need to add PHP daemons on top to get their hardware $$$ moneyworth.
[17:50:49] <Licaon_Kter> The problem with ejabberd is that it's too light. They need to add PHP daemons on top to get their hardware $$$ moneyworth.
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[17:51:15] <Licaon_Kter> Whereas on my Pi's anything that's heavier that ejabberd will get nuked.
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[18:23:03] <vasuta> Licaon_Kter: ?
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[18:24:02] <Licaon_Kter> jerry: https://github.com/Shura0/mastaj
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[18:24:17] <Licaon_Kter> ...hope it's the same jerry though :))
[18:24:22] <vasuta> Licaon_Kter: you can help me with my problem ?
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[18:24:59] <Licaon_Kter> vasuta: no one can, nor do we want
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[18:26:12] <vasuta> Licaon_Kter: very rude of you
[18:28:27] <vasuta> genofire: online ?
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[18:32:52] <vasuta> why is this community created ?
[18:34:08] <vasuta> link-base.org - world forums
[18:34:26] <vasuta> godnotaba.ru - world forums (2)
[18:34:34] <vasuta> f-droid.org soft for Android
[18:34:47] <nuron> Some mods here?
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[18:35:10] <vasuta> store.nethunter.com - kali for Android
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[18:35:39] <vasuta> Free VPNs:
RiseUp VPN
Calyx VPN
Bitmask VPN
[18:36:11] <vasuta> duckduckgo.com - good search
[18:36:20] <nuron> !votekick
[18:37:42] <vasuta> !voteban noob
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[18:41:04] <vasuta> blockstream.com - good wallet for btc
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[20:27:26] <Steven Roose> An easy-do-deploy bot that manages voting based kicking would be useful. Probably only people that are given voting permission to get it. To avoid a cybill attack 😅
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[21:28:31] <foxteam> :-(
[21:28:31] <foxteam> Licaon_Kter: hi pro
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[21:30:20] <foxteam> wlc to bot@conference.xmpp.ru
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[21:47:41] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> https://github.com/Shura0/mastaj
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