Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Friday, July 31, 2020< ^ >
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[03:35:37] <Alacer> > Holger wrote:
> 🙂 It's tagged, yeah.
👍👏
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[13:13:33] <marek> Is there any advantage in having a seperate stun/turn process/server compared to using the ejabberd-included one, if ejabberd and stun/turn still run on the same host?
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[13:18:15] <Holger> marek: No not really.  Expect maybe if you also want to use it with Nextcloud Talk or other things which ejabberd_stun currently doesn't support.  Apart from that the main target audience of the eturnal thingy is really non-ejabberd users.
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[13:18:57] <marek> Holger: thank you. :)
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[13:26:44] <Holger> And you'd get more verbose logging 🙂  But that can also be enabled from an `ejabberdctl debug` shell in case of trouble.  (And I'm pondering with some `log_level` listener option for `ejabberd_stun`.)
[13:27:15] <Holger> Other than that it might be nicer to have everything within a single VM process.
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[16:31:21] <conv> Holger: are there any advantage to running an ejabberd instance just for stun/turn service? Or just having a cluster of ejabberd instances is enough?
[16:31:48] <Licaon_Kter> conv: turn can't cluster afaik
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[16:32:14] <Holger> conv: That sounds like a use case for https//eturnal.net
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[16:33:52] <conv> So to be clear: cluster ejjaberd but run external turn (eturnal.net) for better performance?
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[16:34:42] <Holger> conv: That sounds like a use case for https//eturnal.net
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[16:34:42] <Holger> conv: But if you're using ejabberd anyway there's no point in a separate instance (then it's the same question as above, no?) …
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[16:35:38] <Holger> conv: Still not clear to me.  You want to run TURN on a separate system?
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[16:39:32] <Holger> conv: I mean if you have a proper server you'll need quite a serious number of users to run into performance issues anyway. As long as you have no more than a few tens of thousands of online devices I'd usually recommend against clustering, and if it has proper network you probably also won't need a separate TURN server.
[16:40:52] <conv> Holger: what's the maximum number of users you suggest before clustering ejabberd  should be considered?
[16:41:50] <conv> Holger: i take it from your point that just a server is enough util user base increase beyond a point
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[17:02:08] <Holger> conv: You might want to cluster for one of two reasons: High availability, or balancing of too large load.  I'd recommend against HA clustering unless you're quite deep into Erlang/ejabberd, because otherwise the additional complexity introduced by clustering will easily lead to more rather than less downtime.
[17:02:52] <Holger> conv: As for load balancing, you'll usually have no need to do it if you have no more than a few ten thousand of online devices, as I said.
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[17:05:32] <Holger> (And my first step if the server becomes overloaded would be running SQL and ejabberd on separate servers.)
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[17:14:29] <conv> Thanks. Will note this for the future
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[20:45:19] <Felix> Is mod register web removed in 20.04?
Or how to set it up?
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[20:49:32] <Felix> Sorry, works. Forgot to reload the config :D
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[21:36:25] <conv> New to this. How does upgrade work. Looking to upgrade 20.04 to 20.07
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[21:44:39] <Felix> conv: Depends on how you installed ejabberd.
If you compiled it from source, you simply can checkout the new tag and recompile.
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[21:55:49] <Licaon_Kter> conv: easy https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/upgrade/
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