Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Saturday, August 1, 2020< ^ >
zinid has set the subject to: ejabberd discussions: https://docs.ejabberd.im
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[01:05:14] <bowlofeggs> i'm working on updating ejabberd in fedora, and the p1_utils docs are failing to build but the error is hard for me to understand (i don't really know erlang): https://paste.centos.org/view/f8e02fcf
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[01:05:26] <bowlofeggs> this is the build log for the entire package, so scroll to the bottom
[01:05:53] <bowlofeggs> the commands run are prepended with + (so you can see that i ran /usr/bin/rebar doc -vv
[01:05:55] <bowlofeggs> )
[01:06:42] <bowlofeggs> i can probably disable doc building for now, but ideally we'd have that as part of the package
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[01:07:05] <bowlofeggs> i'd be happy to file a bug if that's better, but i'm not sure it's not environmental at this point
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[10:04:06] <lovetox> hi, i find it werid that ejabberd split up the implementation of 0398 avatar conversion into 2 modules
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[10:04:30] <lovetox> which do not need to run together, but only one of the modules advertise the conversion feature
[10:04:58] <lovetox> so it is possible to run mod_vcard, and mod_vcard_updatex
[10:05:06] <lovetox> but *not* mod_avatar
[10:05:31] <lovetox> hence the server would replace and inject hashes into presences, but would not advertise this behavior
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[11:57:18] <Holger> lovetox: I'm on and off so won't be able to respond quickly. But I don't quite get it. IIRC 0398 is announced if mod_avatar and mod_vcard are enabled, which are the two modules required for that feature. Hash injection is unrelated to the feature and therefore doesn't influence announcement. Or am I overlooking something?
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[12:59:30] <Holger> lovetox: Ah 0398 says the hash thing is a MUST as well. So maybe you thought mod_vcard_updatex was written to implement that XEP but it existed long before.
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[13:19:11] <lovetox> ah ok thats the reason its splitted, yeah i guess not much we can do about it
[13:19:23] <lovetox> thanks for your answer
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[13:20:21] <Holger> Why would we want to change that? The module is useful independently of 0398 I'd say.
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[13:38:26] <lovetox> how is it useful? without announcing to the client that it is activated?
[13:38:43] <lovetox> it just lets the server do extra steps which the client already did
[13:39:55] <lovetox> ah i get it, its for clients that only do 0084
[13:40:22] <lovetox> i was thinking from a cleint that does 0153
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[15:15:20] <Holger> If you have multiple clients that do 0153 it makes sense to leave the hash thing to the server. Rather than your taking care of updating your hash if another client changed the account's avatar.
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[15:18:31] <lovetox> Thats my point, you can only do this if you know that the server does it
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[15:19:34] <lovetox> the mod_vcard_updatex does not announce anything in disco ( if i didnt miss it )
[15:20:03] <lovetox> so for clients that support 0153, this is not very useful
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[15:20:21] <lovetox> but it is for clients that dont support 0153
[15:20:35] <lovetox> and i think this must be the original idea behind the module
[15:20:55] <Holger> Ah indeed.
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[15:21:36] <Holger> No the idea was to fix up the breakage introduced by clients ignoring other clients or just not doing the hash thing at all.
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[15:22:16] <Holger> Which is basically what happened with any client some years ago 🙂
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[15:25:05] <lovetox> i think its nice if we conversion is enabled, and i simply dont send out any hashes anymore and dont care anymore what is advertised by which client etc
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[15:25:18] <lovetox> so this was definitly an improvement
[15:25:46] <lovetox> i just thought about the edge case, that my client doesnt know the server does this, so i send out hashes, but the server replaces them
[15:25:58] <lovetox> could probably get into ugly edge cases
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[15:26:46] <lovetox> but since mod_avatar is activiated in a default installation in ejabberd, lets just hope nobody will test that
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