Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Friday, August 21, 2020< ^ >
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[06:07:55] <conv> Is it possible to configure in yaml for ejabberd not to auto accept subscription request?
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[06:49:50] <Holger> conv, not sure how you want things to work, maybe `mod_block_strangers` does what you're looking for: https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/modules/#mod-block-strangers
[06:50:06] <Holger> But it has some downsides such as not playing nicely with groupchat invites.
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[06:53:01] <conv> Guess will go for in setting roster auth authorize to none by default. Found that despite implementing request approval it auto accepts when user is offline
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[07:05:51] <Holger> conv: ejabberd never auto-accepts subscription requests.
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[07:06:30] <Holger> conv: So I guess you're talking about a client thing?
[07:06:54] <conv> Then what happened in case of a user being offline? The request was accepted?
[07:07:04] <conv> Yes a client
[07:07:05] <Holger> Nothing.
[07:07:20] <Holger> User comes back online and is asked whether to accept the request.
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[07:16:02] <conv> Will test further to confirm this.
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[11:19:44] <debacle> Does Ejabberd use the same code for PEP and PubSub? Background: I want to do some stuff with PubSub, but I could use PEP as well. I just need a couple of custom nodes and many, many items. Now I wonder, whether there might be relevant differences in the implementation I need to be aware of.
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[11:34:10] <prefiks> code between pep and pubsub is mostly shared, there are some small differences (different default config, and stuff like that) but in most cases they should operate in same way
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[12:37:49] <debacle> prefiks Sounds great. Thanks!
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[14:07:28] <Holger> debacle:
> many, many items.
Be sure to optimize the SQL engine's config to death 🙂 (Which one are you using?)
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[14:56:44] <debacle> The one and only PostgreSQL, Holger.
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[15:03:29] <debacle> Holger, but the SQL stuff is independent of choosing PEP or PubSub, right? In both cases we have to fill our disks with INDEX columns like there were no tomorrow?
[15:03:44] <debacle> Holger, but the SQL stuff is independent of choosing PEP or PubSub, right? In both cases we have to fill our disks with INDEXed columns like there were no tomorrow?
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[15:05:24] <Holger> Right.
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[15:06:03] <Holger> PEP is really just PubSub on the user JID plus the optional presence subscription magic.
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[16:02:15] <benharri> what's the recommended install method on debian/ubuntu? .deb, from source, self-installer?
[16:02:20] <benharri> or just the distro package?
[16:02:41] <Holger> On Debian I'd recommend the official backports package.
[16:02:46] <Holger> On Ubuntu I dunno.
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[16:03:23] <benharri> i don't see anything in ubuntu backports
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[16:03:46] <benharri> 20.01 is available in normal packages
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[16:06:49] <Licaon_Kter> benharri: get at least 20.04 to be able to uso Audio/Video ;)
[16:06:53] <Licaon_Kter> benharri: get at least 20.04 to be able to use Audio/Video ;)
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[16:08:18] <benharri> i'll try the self-installer :)
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[18:29:36] <smalltimebloke> The whole packaging thing in GNU/Linux is a major headache
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[18:35:03] <daidoji> its a major headache everywhere right?
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[18:37:02] <smalltimebloke> daidoji: You could say that. Really struggled with golang package earlier today
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[18:37:47] <daidoji> Yeah, its a hard problem I think everywhere.  There's a bunch of tradeoffs and no system seems to get it entirely right.  Maybe in the future there'll be something better.
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[18:37:51] <smalltimebloke> Fun part is that Termux has an updated golang package. Debian package is old as heck
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[18:38:14] <daidoji> oh yeah, downstream package maintenance can be a drag.
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[18:38:47] <daidoji> Like it sucks because most distros only have 2-3 people working on packaging which can be a lot of work for a few people.
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[18:40:16] <smalltimebloke> > Yeah, its a hard problem I think everywhere.  There's a bunch of tradeoffs and no system seems to get it entirely right.  Maybe in the future there'll be something better.
Really hope so. I intended to setup an movim instance today. Gave up on it. Will try building from source instead
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[18:44:16] <sep1ol> i have set up users on my ejabberd and now i plan to switch to ldap. Can the existing accounts be taken over with ldap?
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[18:55:24] <daidoji> In the current ejabberd gen_mod requires mod_options/1, but then in this doc mod_opt_type is required.  Is the doc just outdated? https://docs.ejabberd.im/developer/guide/#gen-mod-behaviour
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It's simply a trade-off, bleeding edge software or robustness, you can't have both. So at least on servers (and professionally managed workstations) I totally appreciate a conservative base system on top of which I can install current software from backports or upstream repos or source. If you want bleeding edge everywhere why not use Arch or whatever?
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[19:47:12] <stvn> Hi all
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[19:54:43] <stvn> Really what ? Licaon_Kter
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[20:20:35] <daidoji> like I can see ejabberd_hooks:run(create_room, ServerHost, [ServerHost, Room, Host]) so I think its clear that those three are arguments
[20:20:48] <daidoji> but how would I know that short of looking all over the code base for the :add()?
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[21:46:44] <Holger> daidoji: So far gen_mod marks mod_opt_type/1 as optional for backwards compat (it's newer than mod_options/1) but new modules should export both. mod_opt_type/1 is used for validating the configured option values.
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[21:49:02] <Holger> daidoji: There's no (auto-generated) docs for hooks so far, you must grep for the :run() or :fold() call. (The latter also hands over an additional accumulator argument that callbacks can modify.)
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