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[02:20:11] <daidoji> another small question of style, why do some modules use the ifndef(GEN_SERVER). -define(GEN_SERVER, gen_server). -endif incantation?
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[02:20:46] <daidoji> like is there some other type of GEN_SERVER that could be used?
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[02:48:31] <daidoji> what actually calls gen_mod:start_link?  I can't seem to find it by grepping the codebase
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[03:08:06] <daidoji> oh its one of those erlang things I didn't understand.  it calls its own start_link/0 by supervisor:start_link({local, ejabberd_gen_mod_sup}, ?MODULE, [])
[03:08:18] <daidoji> haha
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[03:12:22] <daidoji> I'll get all this one of these days
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[09:10:04] <satisha> hi
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[09:11:22] <satisha> damn.. i keep getting cut off..
[09:11:33] <Holger> conv, "a resource"?
[09:11:55] <Holger> As in "DNS resource record" or what?
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[09:12:31] <satisha> im using psi+ with ejabberd .. and on the clients roster.. i see the older info ,  i tried updating the userinfo.. but the roster still shows old  info.. this is even if i freshly reload the psi+ client
[09:13:29] <Holger> satisha: If things work with other clients it sounds like a client bug, no?
[09:13:39] <Holger> satisha: Do you have roster versioning enabled?
[09:13:52] <satisha> Holger: no .. none of the clients are getting the right info..
[09:14:13] <Holger> What "info" are we talking about?
[09:14:16] <satisha> yeah i do have roster versioning
[09:14:25] <Holger> I'd try disabling that to track things down.
[09:15:26] <Holger> daidoji: There's p1_server, which is a modified drop-in replacement for gen_server, see: https://github.com/processone/p1_utils/blob/aaf2b25d9dc273/src/p1_server.erl#L23-L33
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[09:16:34] <satisha> Holger:  vcard
[09:16:46] <Holger> Ok so this is totally unrelated to the roster :-)
[09:17:08] <satisha> doesnt the roster show the vcard display name ?
[09:17:15] <Holger> satisha: So you're modifying your own vcard and then you don't see your changes?
[09:17:16] <Holger> Oh.
[09:17:17] <Holger> No.
[09:17:21] <Holger> Sigh.
[09:17:37] <Holger> So you're modifying the name of the contact in the roster and you don't see the new name?
[09:18:09] <satisha> Holger: updated a users' vcard.. published it.. i dont see the correct name on my list. i see the old names
[09:18:23] <Holger> You're modifying a contact's vCard?
[09:18:24] <Holger> How?
[09:18:38] <satisha> went to his machine on his client.. and updated it
[09:19:09] <Holger> His vCard is unrelated to the names you give your contacts in your roster.
[09:19:27] <satisha> yes i know.. thats why i dont manually rename it on my roster
[09:19:34] <Holger> I'm confused.
[09:19:41] <satisha> ok let me start from beginning
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[09:20:28] <satisha> say i have a user : reception
i then publish a vcard with the actual user's name  
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[09:21:07] <satisha> when the person is changed.. i then go to that particular machine.. update the vcard .. and publish the new person's  name in the vcard
[09:21:36] <satisha> at no point do i rename the users' info on my roster / or any other individuals machines
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[09:22:57] <Holger> 11:19 <== <Holger> His vCard is unrelated to the names you give your contacts in your roster.
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[09:23:17] <Holger> It sounds like you're confusing those two things.
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[09:23:32] <satisha> right.. so how do i get the published vcard information on the contacts list
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[09:24:04] <Holger> You don't.  Just like my email/phone contacts won't manage to mess with my Android address book entries.
[09:24:22] <satisha> the first time they publish the name it does show up in the contacts of every other user
[09:24:31] <satisha> i didnt add the names
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[09:25:04] <satisha> i published the names in the vcard and everyone got their correct names in the contact list
[09:25:12] <Holger> Then Psi+ might auto-fill the contact list using some magic I'm not aware of.
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[09:26:13] <satisha> i did a reinstall of the os ..
[09:26:21] <Holger> This is a client question.  But the proper solution to whatever you're trying to accomblish most probably doesn't involve vCards.
[09:26:37] <conv> Holger: i meant using a domain name that doesn't exist as host
[09:26:53] <Holger> conv: "doesn't exist" in DNS?
[09:27:10] <satisha> Holger: ok how would you recommend i do this ?
[09:27:15] <satisha> i need the right names to resolve
[09:27:58] <Holger> satisha: I have no idea what "this" is.  All I understood is that you went to some user's client to modify his vCard and the results didn't show up in your client the way you expected.
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[09:29:23] <Holger> satisha: I could ask you several questions to get a better understanding of your environment, your own role in that environment, and your requirements.  But maybe you could just explain things yourself :-)
[09:29:59] <satisha> yeah i really wish iwould explain myself better
[09:30:13] <satisha> i need to speak with humans more
[09:31:06] <Holger> conv: Works as long as you don't want to talk to remote servers.  And the clients need to be explicitly told what server host name / address to connect to.
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[09:32:29] <Holger> satisha: E.g. you _might_ be an admin of a company's XMPP server and the company wants you to auto-deploy contact lists to the employees (who knows).  There's mod_shared_roster for that.
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[09:33:36] <satisha> Holger: already using shared_roster .. i have the groups and users showing up..
[09:33:45] <satisha> just their 'resolved' vcard names is the issue
[09:33:48] <Holger> satisha: Or you just want users to be able to publish their own real name, and have their contacts use that as default name if they didn't specify one in their contact list.  Some clients Search Results
[09:33:48] <Holger> Web results
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[09:33:54] <Holger> Sigh.
[09:34:11] <Holger> Some clients use XEP-0172 for that.
[09:37:54] <Holger> > already using shared_roster
Kinda important information.  Because mod_shared_roster indeed has some magic to fetch real names from local vCards.  So forget everything I said, but mention such things right from the start next time.
[09:38:19] <satisha> sorry mate
[09:38:35] <satisha> i didnt know that played a vital role
[09:39:12] <satisha> so i enabled debug while i reconnected to see why the old name comes up.. i see this
<item jid="in.intacc1@chat......." subscription="both" name="Harshad">
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[09:39:44] <Holger> And this is the old name?
[09:39:48] <satisha> yes
[09:40:44] <Holger> Maybe you / your client added an explicit roster entry for that contact, with that 'name', which overrides the entry auto-generated by mod_shared_roster.
[09:41:48] <Holger> If that's not the case you might check whether `ejabberdctl clear-cache` makes a difference.
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[09:43:02] <Holger> (Also, be sure you *don't* have `store_current_id: true` set in your `mod_roster` config.)
[09:43:29] <satisha> nope.. not there
[09:43:42] <Holger> Ok.  You checked the other two suggestions?
[09:44:19] <satisha> yeah.. i even edited the user .. deleted the display info.. which gave me the jid..
[09:44:27] <satisha> i then re-connected.. and i get back the old name
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[09:44:45] <Holger> And `ejabberdctl clear-cache` makes no difference?
[09:44:53] <satisha> nope
[09:44:59] <satisha> even restarted ejabberd to make sure
[09:45:20] <satisha> i do see this
[warning] <0.474.0> Shrinking cache 'roster_item_cache' (current size = 1016, max size = 1000, life time = 3600000, memory = 326184 bytes); you should increase maximum cache size if this message repeats too often
[09:45:23] <satisha> but thats it
[09:45:24] <Holger> So it sounds like updating the vCard failed?  Does your client allow you to look at the vCard explicitly?
[09:45:43] <Holger> Otherwise try to grab it from the database.
[09:45:58] <satisha> yes.. i can see the vcard info.. and it shows new names
[09:46:12] <satisha> <item jid="ae.intacc2@chat....." subscription="both" name="Sahil Salve IntAcc2">
[09:46:31] <satisha> this guy for example i personally fired 6 months ago
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[09:46:51] <satisha> i updated the vcard personally 2 weeks ago.. and im still getting this on display
[09:47:16] <satisha> i deleted the display name.. and retrieved the vcard.. nothing.. i reconnect.. i get this name back
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[09:48:06] <satisha> i recently even reformatted my machine.. its a fresh install of psi+ ..  and still same issue..
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[09:49:28] <Holger> Well the code in mod_shared_roster is straightforward, it will grab the NICKNAME field on-the-fly and fall back to the FN field.  If all else fails grep your entire DB (dump) for the old name to see where it might be coming from.
[09:49:41] <Holger> *fall back if NICKNAME is empty.
[09:49:42] <satisha> err forgot where the db is
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[09:53:16] <satisha> ok yeah i see it in /var/lib/ejabberd/ejabberd.backup
[09:53:41] <Holger> Oh Mnesia.
[09:53:44] <satisha> yeah
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[09:55:30] <satisha> roster.DAT has it as well
[09:55:55] <satisha> i should move this to a sql server right
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[09:56:07] <satisha> brb.. gimme 10 mins
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[09:59:03] <Holger> satisha: Yes SQL is recommended.  Anyway with Mnesia you could do `ejabberdctl dump /var/lib/ejabberd/ejabberd.dump` to get an ASCII dump that you could look at with `less` or whatever.  Search for the old name in that dump.
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[10:00:32] <Holger> But "roster.DAT has it as well" does sound like you have a separate entry for that contact in your roster.
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[10:36:03] <satisha> Holger:  ejabberdctl dump shows up the old names
[10:37:20] <Holger> satisha: The context should show you whether they're in your roster or elsewhere.
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[10:38:16] <satisha> Holger: yeah but as the jid right ?
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[10:41:18] <satisha> https://pastebin.com/HCigvwu5
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[10:46:32] <satisha> as you can see its in the roster
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[10:49:59] <Holger> Yeah, so what I guessed above.
[10:50:09] <Holger> Fix is to remove the JID from your roster :-)
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[10:51:58] <satisha> and then re-add ?
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[10:52:27] <satisha> i tried that.. i deleted the account and re-added
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[10:57:52] <Holger> Don't re-add from your client.
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[10:58:20] <Holger> Delete from your client and leave re-adding to the server.
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[11:10:40] <satisha> Holger: is there a way to push a delete from roster  to all the clients
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[11:19:04] <satisha> Holger: ok so i managed to force it to work
[11:19:52] <satisha> in the web admin .. i set the roster to delete content .. then restarted ejabberd which forced everyone to reconnect
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[11:21:14] <satisha> thanks man
[11:21:26] <satisha> now i need to find a good guide to help me move from mnesia to SQL
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[11:32:33] <ij> https://docs.ejabberd.im/tutorials/mysql/#migrating-data-from-internal-database-to-mysql (same applies to pgsql as well, of course)
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[11:34:12] <satisha> thanks
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[11:36:28] <Holger> Right, and once you've set up SQL, you can run `ejabberdctl export2sql example.com /var/lib/ejabberd/sql.dump` to get an SQL dump for your example.com data that you then import into SQL.
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[11:45:58] <satisha> Yeah looking for a way to do it now. Checking if I can create a window
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[11:46:49] <satisha> So xabber.org keeps disconnecting s2s
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[19:24:14] <wunderfitz> has anybody a good recommendation for a ejabberd server installation tutorial for debian 10?
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[19:35:28] <benharri> why not just install from -backports?
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[19:36:08] <benharri> current stable release is in backports
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[20:07:43] <benharri> has anyone set up ejabberd auth via imap or pam?
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[20:23:52] <ij> dovecot, but was not working reliable… switched to auth via sql
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[20:26:50] <benharri> i run a shell server and was thinking about ways to auth against local unix accounts (no ldap etc)
[20:30:03] <ij> you could adapt the script from @mike : https://git.chinwag.org/chinwag/ejabberd-auth-mastodon - worked for me, but usually auth against pam should be working without external auth script: https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/authentication/#pam-authentication
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[20:32:04] <benharri> thanks!
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