Process-one
ejabberd
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Sunday, February 21, 2021< ^ >
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Room Configuration
Room Occupants

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[08:39:50] <Licaon_Kter> Since ejabberd is involved, I'll post here too
How it went:
Siskin user
Siskin key only
Installs Gajim
Gajim key only
Shutdown PC
Tries to use Siskin
"This message not encrypted" for old messages (old means between gajim power off and that moment)
Two keys present
Opens PC
Siskin key gone
Gajim key only
Serverside:
The user has 4 omemo bundles, Siskin/Gajim/ChatSecure/Monal
But the devicelist pubsub has only 3 devices, Siskin missing
Conversations user details (as seen from my user and other C users) show the Siskin key as "inactive" (logcat shows C receives only 3 devices on reconnect, Siskin missing)
This is a remote user so my interactions can be minimal (lack of time/mood and my intentions of not mucking too much).
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[12:47:39] <ische> Hello everyone. I have ejabberd (still 20.07) configured with STUN/TURN activated (in mod_stun_disco & listen section). Within Conversation everything is working fine and I can make video calls. Now I wanted to use the stun/turn server included in ejabberd in other applications (nextcloud) on the server too. While stun seems to work fine the test of the turn server returns "No working ICE-Candidates returned from TURN-Server". I tested also a coturn server located on a different device temporarily which worked fine. Did someone else had the problem in the past or know how to fix this?
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[12:48:38] <Licaon_Kter> ische: no working is reported by Nextcloud? Server logs say what?
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[12:49:20] <ische> I just see the message in the web interface itself.
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[12:50:36] <ische> The logfile does not contain any infos
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[12:50:45] <ische> the log of nextcloud
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[12:51:14] <inkey> https://github.com/jsxc/jsxc/issues/1014 ?
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[12:51:54] <inkey> (nextcloud is jsxc based as far i remember)
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[12:54:28] <ische> i just wanted to use the turn server included in ejabberd. in nextcloud I'm using talk which is independendly of xmpp.
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[12:57:06] <Licaon_Kter> ische: how do you set credentials? TURN needs user/pass to allow the flow
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[12:58:49] <ische> On mod_stun_disco I've set a secret and set restricted to true. I'm not quite sure if this is sufficient or if I need to add something in the listen section
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[13:02:56] <ische> auth_type and auth_realm are not set. so in this case i would suggest only users are allowed to connect to the turn server...
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[13:17:46] <Licaon_Kter> So Nextcloud and ejabberd share that secret?
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[13:18:50] <ische> if configured the same secret in mod_stun_disco and nextcloud talk configuration. the connection can be established but no "ICE-Candidates" are shared
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[13:24:55] <ische> but i think the secret doesn't make sense here as this would only be useful for external turn services.
i haven't found another location to define that shared secret (e.g. in listening section) so probably i need to use an external stun/turn server like coturn or eturnal. both are offering the possibility of a shared secret
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[13:48:42] <Holger> > On mod_stun_disco I've set a secret and set restricted to true. I'm not quite sure if this is sufficient or if I need to add something in the listen section
That's sufficient.
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[13:49:07] <Holger> Your thinking is right that it seems wrong to not have it in the listener section.
[13:49:13] <Holger> But it's not wrong 🙂
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[13:49:44] <Holger> (ejabberd_stun lets mod_stun_disco verify the credentials.)
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[13:55:27] <ische> Ok, thanks for the clarification.
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[13:56:07] <ische> I also set the logfile of ejabberd to debug but turn messages does not appear...
[13:56:10] <Holger> Do you see the Nextcloud clients in the logs?
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[13:56:20] <ische> no, unfortunately not
[13:56:20] <Holger> At least the connections?
[13:56:24] <ische> nothing...
[13:56:27] <Holger> Then it's not a secret issue.
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[13:56:48] <Holger> Either Talk config or packet filter.
[13:56:59] <Holger> (But I have zero time right now sorry.)
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[14:02:39] <ische> no problem - thanks for the help and the hints
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[18:16:58] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: regarding my incomplete device list above, is a sessions disconnect and DB edit to have devicelist with all devices, a bad plan?
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[21:27:34] <mimi89999> Hello
[21:27:55] <mimi89999> Are IBR captchas effective for preventing spam?
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[21:35:44] <Licaon_Kter> mimi89999: usually not
There's a PR that tries to make them at least harder to automate breaking
https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/pull/3533
[21:36:20] <Licaon_Kter> mimi89999: usually not
There's a PR that tries to make them at least harder to automatically broke them
https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/pull/3533
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[23:23:08] <marzzzello> Is it possible to include the capacha script in the docker container?
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[23:23:26] <marzzzello> Is it possible to include the captcha script in the docker container?
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