Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, February 22, 2021< ^ >
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[08:29:26] <mimi89999> neox: Does writing the challenge to an image really makes it more difficult or for bots with OCR it's just like plain text?
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[08:30:03] <thorsten> > mimi89999: usually not
> There's a PR that tries to make them at least harder to automatically broke them
> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/pull/3533
Will this be merged ?
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[08:34:33] <prefiks> i just merged it
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[08:45:42] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Sorry I hadn't followed the OMEMO bundle thing.  So it looks like Gajim keeps removing Siskin from the devicelist?
[08:46:01] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: I.e. Gajim bug (too aggressive clean-up)?
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[08:48:01] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: DB edit + disconnect peer devices seems fine to me (call `ejabberdctl clear-cache` afterwards), but won't the problem re-occur once Gajim re-connects?
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[08:52:00] <neox> mimi89999: What makes the automatic resolution of captchas difficult is not only the fact that the instruction is written in the image but also the fact that this instruction is :
- variable
- requires a more complex action than simply copying text/numbers
And it's easier to read it for a human being.
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[09:11:37] <mimi89999> Yes. This I understand. I was just asking if putting it in an image makes a difference
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[09:28:22] <Holger> mimi89999, having everything in a single image makes it easier to offer that thing both inline (within an XMPP form) and (as fallback) via HTTP.
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[09:54:40] <Licaon_Kter> Holger:
I kicked the user sessions and edited the DB directly, devicelist had only gajim and siskin
Today Gajim logged in, it updated the devicelist and removed Siskin
I've now kicked user sessions again, updated Siskin bundle last modification date to today, restarted server...waiting for gajim to come back online...
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[09:55:09] <Holger> So bug report against Gajim?
[09:55:32] <Licaon_Kter> I've reported all these to both Siskin and Gajim mucs
[09:56:04] <Holger> Then again ... assuming there's nothing special about the Siskin list entry ... why wouldn't Gajim users stumble over Gajim removing Conversations all day long?
[09:56:31] <Licaon_Kter> It's hard since it's remote, I've only done things serverside
[09:56:37] <Holger> Yeah.
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[09:57:28] <Licaon_Kter> Bundle date was Sep 2020, Siskin appears offline all the time, I thought that maybe something is detected as stale/expired/etc
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[10:33:24] <Holger> Yeah maybe the "always offline" thing triggers Gajim ...
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[11:09:16] <ff> Hi
I have private ejabberd 21.01 on arm64
I'm the only user atm, but i guess somebody is using my turn server 😨
I see led is constantly blinking, and a lot of packets to/from <myserverIP>:3478 in tcpdump...
From unknown ip 103.89.48.9
And nothing about stun/turn in ejabberd.log....
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[11:11:13] <ff> Only one online user =me
I thought anonymous access to turn is disabled by default...
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[11:14:28] <Licaon_Kter> ff: that's STUN not turn, it's ok, the load is small
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[11:18:46] <ff> Well...it looks very much like TURN traffic in my tests...
[11:19:21] <Holger> How so?
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[11:19:56] <Holger> A TURN relay would produce about the same amount of traffic on 3478 and on a port within the high-port range.
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[11:20:19] <Holger> If it's only 3478 then it's STUN.  (And yes only STUN will be permitted without authentication.)
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[11:32:11] <ff> Holger: Oh, yes, it's only 3478, without high-port-range. Thanks for clarification.
But it's constant for about an hour or more...
Who can use it?...
I guess i should disable it...
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[11:35:20] <ff> ```
14:21:33.569887 IP 103.89.48.9.50408 > 81.88.209.90.3478: UDP, length 20
14:21:33.571259 IP 81.88.209.90.3478 > 103.89.48.9.50408: UDP, length 52
14:21:33.574305 IP 103.89.48.9.17706 > 81.88.209.90.3478: UDP, length 20
14:21:33.575563 IP 81.88.209.90.3478 > 103.89.48.9.17706: UDP, length 52
14:21:33.646792 IP 103.89.48.9.50408 > 81.88.209.90.3478: UDP, length 20
14:21:33.648244 IP 81.88.209.90.3478 > 103.89.48.9.50408: UDP, length 52
14:21:33.658853 IP 103.89.48.9.17706 > 81.88.209.90.3478: UDP, length 20
14:21:33.660289 IP 81.88.209.90.3478 > 103.89.48.9.17706: UDP, length 52
14:21:33.723844 IP 103.89.48.9.50408 > 81.88.209.90.3478: UDP, length 20
14:21:33.725180 IP 81.88.209.90.3478 > 103.89.48.9.50408: UDP, length 52
14:21:33.743370 IP 103.89.48.9.17706 > 81.88.209.90.3478: UDP, length 20
14:21:33.744663 IP 81.88.209.90.3478 > 103.89.48.9.17706: UDP, length 52
...
```
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[11:38:25] <Licaon_Kter> I had >1000 connections when I had SIP active on 5060, fun
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[11:39:19] <Licaon_Kter> If it's the same IP that keeps insisting, I grepped the logs a bit and put them in the firewall to DROP
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[11:42:18] <Holger> ff: I think it's spoofed addresses, i.e. DDoS attempts.
[11:42:33] <Holger> But that's just a guess of course.
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[11:50:29] <ff> It's the same IP, but different ports
😲 DDoS for small home server with 1 user?
The bad thing that i can't see it in logs, only in tcpdump... I didn' even know about it if i'm not at home...
And can i disable anonymous STUN?
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[11:52:14] <Holger> ff: I didn't mean DDoS against you, I meant abusing (many) STUN servers to DDoS someone else.
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[12:16:11] <ff> Now it stopped flooding...
Whois IP says:
org-name:       Dept. of Information Technology & Cyber Security
country:        MM
address:        Cyber Security Department,
address:        S12 Exchange Building,
address:        Nay Pyi Taw, Myanmar
So maybe they were pentesting my srv ;)
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[12:16:42] <ff> Thank you all for info!
[12:17:21] <Licaon_Kter> ff: wasn't a revolution there? Maybe some internet censorship avoidance too?
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[12:32:02] <ff> Licaon_Kter: yes, just found news about it...)
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[17:06:58] <sy> Hi everyone, how does ejabberd know who is an admin if I have an LDAP setup?
[17:07:31] <Holger> There's not really such a thing as an 'ejabberd admin'.
[17:07:49] <Holger> Some modules can give special privileges to JIDs that are matched by access rules.
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[17:07:59] <Holger> Regardless of the auth backend.
[17:08:50] <Holger> So in you'd add `sy@example.com` to some ACL and that'll work no matter whether that `sy` user is authenticated via LDAP or SQL or whatever.
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[17:10:19] <sy> I see, I don't actually remember how I configured this, but I've got an extra block in Gajim saying "Admin" that I really hope the users can't see
[17:10:21] <sy> Alright, is that configured in the flat config or in a database?
[17:10:44] <Holger> Flat config.
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[17:11:58] <sy> wow i might have zero admins, grepping for "admin" gives me no JIDs but I see where I can put those in: mod_muc_admin: {} // mod_admin_extra: {}
[17:12:17] <sy> or maybe I'm confused https://0x0.st/-8tP.txt
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[17:14:36] <sy> Also, I'm setting up an instance for personal use and have Alpine and OpenBSD servers, and ejabberd has been removed from ports on OpenBSD and the Alpine packaging in edge/testing seems rather amateur and doesn't seem to work, tries to start as root out of the box. Is there a better way to install it on OpenBSD without doing it from source, or could I get some guidance unpicking this init.d script?
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[17:16:20] <Holger> The ejabberdctl script usually does `su $user` though, maybe it's just relying on that?
[17:16:46] <Holger> But anyway it should be trivial to write your own startup script.
[17:17:18] <Holger> Basically, `ejabberdctl start && ejabberdctl started` (the latter blocks until startup succeeded), assuming you want ejabberd to daemonize into the background.
[17:17:38] <Holger> And yes your grep output looks like you're referencing an `admin` access rule which isn't defined.
[17:17:47] <Holger> Maybe you're including another config file from there?
[17:18:53] <sy> Thannks, this look good to define it? https://0x0.st/-8tc.txt
[17:18:53] <sy> Unfortunately nothing is ever simple with me hah https://0x0.st/-8tA.txt
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[17:20:25] <sy> it's only running these
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[17:31:01] <sy> yeah i'm gonna spin up a freebsd box i think, this is a little too much effort and i don't want to be using stuff from the untested repo
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