Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, July 5, 2021< ^ >
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[05:20:25] <Deeg05> tweeter lol
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[07:35:35] <paul> hi all, I have trouble using ejabberdctl on OpenBSD, ejabberd is running fine, but ejabberdctl can't connect to the RPC. How should I debug this issue?
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[07:36:15] <paul> epmd is listening on localhost port 4369
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[07:38:30] <Licaon_Kter> Error?
[07:38:39] <Licaon_Kter> User has cookie?
[07:40:12] <paul> the only error I see is Failed RPC connection to the node ejabberd@localhost: nodedown
[07:40:27] <paul> nothing related to it in the ejabberd logs
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[07:43:01] <paul> I'm not sure the node name is the good one, is there a way for epmd to list all active nodes ?
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[07:44:31] <paul> I didn't configured cookie auth on epmd
[07:46:06] <prefiks> Arę you running that with sudo?
[07:46:23] <prefiks> As root in general
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[07:47:47] <paul> I'm running with ejabberd user, otherwise ejabberdctl tries to use su with incompatible options for openbsd
[07:48:32] <prefiks> ok
[07:48:53] <paul> erlang noob question: is `epmd -names` supposed to return list of nodes ?
[07:49:05] <prefiks> yes
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[07:49:55] <paul> `epmd: up and running on port 4369 with data:` <- is this the node? I thought node was something like ejabberd@localhost.
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[07:51:40] <prefiks> No, it just tells you that epmd (port mapper is using that port)
[07:51:47] <prefiks> Nodes should be listed later
[07:51:59] <paul> ah! there is nothing after that line
[07:52:18] <paul> that could explain why ejabberdctl can't find the ejabberd instance :P
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[08:32:00] <paul> I upgraded from 20.04 to 21.04 and ejabberdctl is working fine, should have done that in the first place. Anyway thanks for the help and explanations.
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[08:38:02] <egnun> > egnun: yes because you all will want avatars, OMEMO keys, Movim microblogging article/comment, etc
I see. So I do need PubSub for MUCs.
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[08:43:19] <Licaon_Kter> egnun: don't separate anything, use the example config https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/ejabberd.yml.example and modify it for you domain. It has all that's needed for a good experience.
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[17:19:16] <rozzin> I'm getting this error RE: MUC MAM on my ejabberd server:
> MAM archives too large, won't store message for [MUC]
[17:19:39] <rozzin> What are my options for fixes?
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[17:21:45] <ij> mnesia database?
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[17:24:17] <rozzin> Yes, ovbiously ;)
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[17:24:32] <rozzin> Is migrating it to SQL my only option?
[17:24:51] <ij> or deleting old mam messages
[17:26:24] <ij> but migrating to SQL is recommended quite often anyways
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[17:27:26] <rozzin> Is there still no way to just have mod_mam limit the depth of history it maintains?
[17:27:55] <Licaon_Kter> rozzin: periodic cleaning
[17:29:19] <rozzin> Is there a recommended way of doing that periodic cleaning?
[17:29:38] <rozzin> like, and ejabberdctl command or a script or something?
[17:29:41] <rozzin> like, an ejabberdctl command or a script or something?
[17:31:27] <Licaon_Kter> rozzin: you have 3 commands to clean up in ejabberdctl:
`ejabberdctl --no-timeout delete_old_mam_messages all XX`
then
`ejabberdctl delete_old_messages XX`
(Where XX is days)
then
`ejabberdctl delete_expired_messages`
+whatever vacuum/cleanup of sql
I
[17:31:45] <Licaon_Kter> rozzin: you have 3 commands to clean up in ejabberdctl:
`ejabberdctl --no-timeout delete_old_mam_messages all XX`
then
`ejabberdctl delete_old_messages XX`
(Where XX is days)
then
`ejabberdctl delete_expired_messages`
+whatever vacuum/cleanup of sql
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[17:33:09] <rozzin> Is there a way to raise the table-size limit as well?
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[17:38:29] <rozzin> Fail:
> $ time sudo ejabberdctl --no-timeout delete_old_mam_messages all 36
> Unhandled exception occurred executing the command:
> ** exception exit: {aborted,{badarg,[archive_msg]}}
>    in function  mnesia:abort/1 (mnesia.erl, line 355)
>    in call from mod_mam_mnesia:delete_old_messages/3 (mod_mam_mnesia.erl, line 103)
>    in call from lists:map/2 (lists.erl, line 1239)
>    in call from mod_mam:delete_old_messages/2 (mod_mam.erl, line 579)
>    in call from ejabberd_ctl:call_command/4 (ejabberd_ctl.erl, line 315)
>    in call from ejabberd_ctl:try_call_command/4 (ejabberd_ctl.erl, line 280)
>    in call from ejabberd_ctl:process2/4 (ejabberd_ctl.erl, line 233)
>    in call from ejabberd_ctl:process/2 (ejabberd_ctl.erl, line 211)
>
> real    0m0.476s
> user    0m0.358s
> sys     0m0.085s
[17:38:47] <ij> https://www.ejabberd.im/node/4673/index.html - doesn’t seem so
[17:39:01] <ij> why not migrating to SQL?
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[17:43:16] <rozzin> ij: was just wondering. Saw where that limit was defined in the erlang code, but I don't really understand erlang so couldn't tell how hardcoded it is.
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[17:43:57] <rozzin> ij: at the moment I'd just like to understand the error that I'm getting when I run delete_old_mam_messages....
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[17:47:42] <ij> I guess it’s because a database usually needs some extra (temporarily) space to delete stuff
[17:48:24] <rozzin> "badarg"?
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[17:48:50] <ij> omit the —no-timeout maybe
[17:49:17] <rozzin> Same error....
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[17:49:51] <ij> ah, - instead of _
[17:50:09] <ij> ejabberdctl delete-old-mam-messages all 365
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[17:50:32] <ij> at least this is was runs on my server
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[17:53:30] <rozzin> Not it.
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[17:55:16] <ij> if that doesn’t work, I guess you need to migrate to SQL… I’m running out of ideas
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[17:58:17] <rozzin> Looks like the error is coming out of this line in mod_mam_mnesia.erl:
> Result = delete_old_user_messages(mnesia:dirty_first(archive_msg), TimeStamp, Type),
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[18:01:54] <rozzin> Mmm. Someone filed it as a bug 2 years ago, never was able to supply any info so it got closed as as `works for me': https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/2836
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[18:02:42] <rozzin> ... for ejabberd 18.12.1. I'm on 21.01.
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[18:03:28] <ij> well, migrate to SQL… delete old mam messages and if you are really focussed on mnesia, you might want to migrate back to mnesia
[18:04:03] <rozzin> OK. Well, HOWTO migrate to SQL?
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[18:04:19] <rozzin> And can `SQL' be MariaDB?
[18:04:44] <ij> https://docs.ejabberd.im/tutorials/mysql/#migrating-data-from-internal-database-to-mysql
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[18:05:11] <ij> I prefer PostgreSQL, but if you really like mysql… sure
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[18:15:44] <rozzin> I prefer PostgreSQL too, but I have something else on this server that requires MySQL so....
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[18:34:09] <Holger> Funny I just spammed this group with my usual "don't use Mnesia for SQL" reasonings the other day.
[18:34:20] <Holger> Funny I just spammed this group with my usual "don't use Mnesia for MAM" reasonings the other day.
[18:35:51] <Holger> > Is there a way to raise the table-size limit as well?
You could switch from the default disk-only to disk-and-RAM backend. That would lift the limit, but the entire MAM data would be loaded into RAM.
[18:36:21] <Holger> Mnesia is just totally not designed for this stuff and mod_mam shouldn't even support it IMHO.
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[19:02:40] <marevalo> It would be nice to have a "Migrate eJabberd from Mnesia to SQLite" simple doc, I read the doc and I don't even know where is the default sqlite database to load the content of the export2sql command ...
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[19:11:21] <rozzin> Well..., looks like the database got much smaller even just pruning it back to the last 10 years..., which is interesting because I think I've only been running ejabberd for about 10 years....
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