Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Friday, July 16, 2021< ^ >
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[00:45:47] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> > rozzin wrote:
> Probably FreeBSD has similar options, I'd guess.
Not to my knowledgep
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[00:46:37] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> > Holger wrote:
> Yeah but I guess the first question is whether ejabberd *is* eating (and not just allocating) too much memory for some reason.
if they're the same thing as far as vmkfreebsd cares, then it doesn't really matter
that said, i do have ej stabilised right now - i think.
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[03:30:44] <iiro> So i have somehow managed to make my domain unfederable with both xmpp.org and conference.siacs.eu
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[03:31:01] <iiro> With stuck messages or something
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[03:47:35] <iiro> Holger, where you did got the info that it is running prosody
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[03:48:50] <iiro> I think i have managed to get a similar disastrous condition with conference.siacs.eu as well
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[03:50:30] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> oh..
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[05:23:26] <Licaon_Kter> iiro: siacs.eu runs ejabberd iirc
[05:23:46] <iiro> Hmm
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[05:25:36] <Licaon_Kter> > how much of the example YML have you modified?
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[05:26:48] <iiro> Just the bare enough to get it working? How do i answer that?
[05:27:23] <iiro> Do i run a diff command or something?
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[05:29:41] <Licaon_Kter> Maybe, I'm asking since the example .yml should be 100% working ok
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[05:35:52] <iiro> Licaon_Kter: http://ix.io/3t8q
[05:36:39] <iiro> there are my modifications and the installer script's modifications apparently
[05:38:45] <iiro> I don't myself see what there could be causing federation issues.
[05:39:26] <Licaon_Kter> iiro: this was installed how?
[05:39:37] <iiro> With the .run script
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[05:41:39] <Licaon_Kter> So this leaves either firewall, but that won't explain that it worked at some point
Or certs
What loglevel are you at? Eg. level 4 doesn't say anything useful?
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[05:45:55] <iiro> Certs are fine and there is no fw
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[05:59:35] <Licaon_Kter> iiro:
`curl -s -XPOST -H 'Content-Type: application/json' -d'{"target": "yourserver.tld"}' https://observe.jabber.network/api/v1/check/xmpp-server | jq .success`
Looks fine too...
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[06:04:59] <iiro> Maybe the xmpp ecosystem is just not robust enough...
[06:06:48] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> > iiro wrote:
> Maybe the xmpp ecosystem is just not robust enough...
How would that work
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[06:07:41] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> Like, what wouldn't be robust?
[06:08:00] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> What would be weak? Are you sure you aren't blacklisted for spamming?
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[06:09:07] <iiro> How would i be blacklisted for spamming?
[06:09:50] <iiro> Licaon_Kter: that command outputs nlthing for me
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[06:10:15] <iiro> Licaon_Kter: that command outputs nothing for me
[06:10:29] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> iiro: Does it error anything?
[06:10:43] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> > iiro wrote:
> How would i be blacklisted for spamming?
Some servers participate in a blacklist schemep
[06:10:48] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> > iiro wrote:
> How would i be blacklisted for spamming?
Some servers participate in a blacklist scheme.
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[06:11:32] <iiro> http://ix.io/3t8y
[06:11:46] <iiro> I get that kind of stuff in the debug log
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[06:13:44] <iiro> but i do not think this discussion is productive anymore. The admin of muc.xmpp.org will investigate the issue on their side. If he can't figure it out, i'll just nuke my server
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[06:17:40] <Licaon_Kter> iiro:
> Licaon_Kter: that command outputs nothing for me
You've replaced it with your domain...right?
[06:18:02] <Licaon_Kter> > Maybe the xmpp ecosystem is just not robust enough...
Yet we are here talking each one from another domain? Odd...
[06:18:03] <iiro> Licaon_Kter: yes
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[06:20:09] <Licaon_Kter> iiro: I've removed the last jq command, maybe you don't have that installed
But if you don't see anything...that would be odd as f
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[06:22:49] <iiro> Licaon_Kter: now it works for me too
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[06:25:58] <Licaon_Kter> iiro:
> http://ix.io/3t8y
> I get that kind of stuff in the debug log
And I see siacs.eu posts so it works?
[06:26:19] <iiro> Wtf?
[06:27:30] <iiro> Licaon_Kter: i have two domains on my instance, maybe they are from the another
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[06:29:17] <Licaon_Kter> xmpp2 ?
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[06:29:44] <Licaon_Kter> Anyway, loglevel 5 is too verbose for me to grep easily :))
[06:30:02] <Licaon_Kter> Errors like these should be visible on 4 too
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[06:31:59] <iiro> Licaon_Kter:
> xmpp2 ?
Yeah
[06:32:16] <Licaon_Kter> Umm, so you want from the NOT xmpp2 to connect?
[06:32:45] <iiro> Licaon_Kter: yes, both domains should work fine
[06:33:15] <iiro> I will not settle for anything less than that
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[06:33:46] <Licaon_Kter> The SRV doesn't look right, then
[06:34:01] <Licaon_Kter> domain.tld points to xmpp2.domain.tld
[06:34:28] <Licaon_Kter> Or maybe I'm confusing it now....
[06:34:46] <Licaon_Kter> Can you disable the working one to isolate log output?
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[06:59:11] <iiro> Licaon_Kter: i disabled the xmpp2 domain
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[06:59:24] <iiro> Also i put log level to 4
[06:59:47] <iiro> No errors, no anything
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[07:00:26] <iiro> In conversations, i see only one outbound message forever stuck
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[07:01:08] <iiro> I really really hate this kind of stuff
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[07:07:47] <Licaon_Kter> You are connecting to which MUC?
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[07:10:14] <iiro> Licaon_Kter: conversations@conference.siacs.eu
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[07:22:06] <Licaon_Kter> iiro: can you join xmpp:yaxim@chat.yax.im?join (it's prosody)
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[07:22:32] <iiro> Yes
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[07:22:53] <iiro> Everything works fine, expect those two servers
[07:23:18] <Licaon_Kter> Ok, so I'd guess these are somehow limited to some servers
Holger can take a look at siacs.eu I guess
And MattJ for xmpp.org
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[07:23:51] <iiro> First they worked too, but apparently there is a some kind of zombie connection preventing further connections
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[07:28:41] <iiro> My logs show only connection timeouts :s
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[07:29:46] <Holger> > Holger can take a look at siacs.eu I guess
I can have a look, yes.
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[07:46:56] <Holger> iiro: What domain again?
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[07:47:04] <iiro> Holger: laiho.me
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[07:49:04] <Holger> Ah now it has an AAAA record as well.  Didn't see that yesterday I think?
[07:50:09] <iiro> Holger: it should always have had an aaaa record. The domain is served by xmpp server at xmpp2.laiho.me
[07:50:09] <Holger> 2021-07-16 08:41:01.099 [warning] <0.18191.6342>@ejabberd_s2s_out:process_closed:160 Failed to establish outbound s2s connection conference.siacs.eu -> xmpp2.laiho.me: Connection failed: connection refused; bouncing for 59 seconds
[07:50:23] <iiro> Weird
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[07:51:54] <Holger> It worked yesterday.
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[07:52:06] <iiro> Yeah
[07:52:52] <iiro> "connection refused" would imply that something is wrong with my server, but what could it be?
[07:53:14] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: fyi I can speak with iiro in 1:1
[07:53:23] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: fyi I can speak with iiro in 1:1, if that's helps
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[07:56:48] <iiro> Holger: yes
[07:57:19] <iiro> Holger: i have switched over to self-hosted ejabberd a few days ago
[07:57:27] <Holger> iiro: You're responding to a private message.  Didn't want to make that info public without your consent.
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[07:59:59] <Licaon_Kter> I'm actually writing "THIS IS A PRIVATE MESSAGE" when I PM a user lately :))
[08:00:09] <Holger> iiro: Anyway that's the problem in this case (we can discuss this here on in 1:1, as you like).  Either way, it's a coincidence that muc.xmpp.org fails as well, unrelated issue.
[08:00:26] <Holger> Gotta run, will be back in an hour or two.
[08:00:37] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Heh ...
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[08:02:48] <Licaon_Kter> Holger iiro : so...was the issuo found?
[08:02:51] <Licaon_Kter> Holger iiro : so...was the issue found?
[08:02:58] <iiro> No
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[08:05:07] <Licaon_Kter> ;(
[08:05:29] <iiro> I thought that when i run the certificate renewal routines on a vps anyway, i could just as well run my own server, but turns out running a xmpp server is both skill and labour intensive
[08:05:43] <Holger> The issue with conference.siacs.eu is clear, yes.
[08:05:59] <Holger> The issue with muc.xmpp.org will have to be investigated by Matt :-)
[08:06:20] <iiro> Holger: to me it is not clear at all :/
[08:06:39] <Holger> > (we can discuss this here on in 1:1, as you like)
[08:06:46] <Holger> You didn't respond to that.
[08:06:52] <Holger> So I said nothing ;-)
[08:07:05] <iiro> oh, sorry, we can discuss it here
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[08:08:06] <Holger> You've been using the domain hosting on conversations.im, and conference.siacs.eu is running on the same server.  Your domain is still configured on that server, and ejabberd is confused.
[08:08:20] <Holger> I can ditch it if you like (later today).
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[08:09:01] <Licaon_Kter> :)
[08:09:30] <Holger> Nevertheless, the 'connection refused' response came from your server two hours ago.  But AFAICS it would work now, once we cleaned up the config on c.im.
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[08:10:20] <Holger> So obviously muc.xmpp.org is unhappy for unrelated reasons.  Matt sounds like <https://issues.prosody.im/871> is fixed, if that's the case I have no idea.
[08:11:17] <Holger> > turns out running a xmpp server is both skill and labour intensive
It can be, yes.
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[08:20:50] <iiro> Holger:
> You've been using the domain hosting on conversations.im, and conference.siacs.eu is running on the same server.  Your domain is still configured on that server, and ejabberd is confused.
> I can ditch it if you like (later today).
Yeah, let's do so. Btw would it be possible for the domain hosting to check the dns now and then so that it could detect hosts that are actually hosted elsewhere
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[08:32:45] <Holger> iiro: Maybe. Problem would still be we probably don't want to auto-ditch any data immediately. The domain owner might just have applied a test/mistake or whatever.
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[10:09:46] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> ... Non-IP networks, theoretically? Which entry points would I need to hijack?
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[11:55:22] <iiro> I still have some federation issues. I get following errors:
> 2021-07-16 14:50:08.847 [info] <0.817.0>@ejabberd_s2s_in:process_closed:132 Closing inbound s2s connection muc.lurk.org -> laiho.me: TLS failed: SSL_do_handshake failed: error:1408A0C1:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:no shared cipher
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[11:57:16] <Licaon_Kter> iiro: right, see that domain on s2s testing at xmpp.net
[11:58:03] <Holger> It would work with the default config.
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[11:58:41] <iiro> Hmm
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[11:59:04] <Holger> "I told ejabberd to refuse communication with peers who don't offer the coolest ciphers. But now it refuses communication with those peers WTF."
[11:59:34] <iiro> Licaon_Kter: there are my results https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=laiho.me&type=server
[12:00:15] <Licaon_Kter> iiro: now compare that with THEIRs
[12:00:20] <Holger> I tried to summarize those results in my last message 🙂
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[12:02:44] <iiro> Do i need another srv record for ssl3 s2s? I have not disabled that from the config file, at least not intentionally
[12:03:53] <iiro> Or could a certificate cause that?
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[12:05:02] <Holger> Ahh, yes indeed.
[12:05:09] <Holger> It's an EC certificate.
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[12:05:34] <Holger> You'd want RSA for better interop.
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[12:05:53] <iiro> Okay
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[12:13:55] <iiro> Holger: that it was, thanks
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[17:28:27] <iiro> Holger: did you ditch laiho.me? I still cannot join the conversations muc
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[17:36:16] <iiro> Does quicksy run on a different server? I can federate with it just fine
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[17:43:27] <iiro> Holger, is there a some sort of bigger problem in conversations@conference.siacs.eu? When i join it with another account, i see only 3 participiants
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[17:44:32] <iiro> Now i see some more
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[19:13:57] <Holger> > Does quicksy run on a different server?
Yes.
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[19:20:32] <Holger> > did you ditch laiho.me?
It is removed, now.
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[19:20:54] <Holger> > is there a some sort of bigger problem in conversations@conference.siacs.eu?
I don't see a problem.
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[19:25:25] <iiro> Thx
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[19:37:48] <iiro> Holger: now for some reason i can join @conference.conversations.im channels, but not the siacs one
[19:38:59] <iiro> But now i am going to get some sleep
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[19:42:50] <Holger> iiro, could you try again?  (No hurry of course.)
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