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ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Saturday, January 21, 2023< ^ >
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[01:38:38] <gerbear> with the help of folks in the Conversations IM chat I have found voice and video calls are not working because, whereas I get candidate messages of type srflx, I get none of type relay. I just don't have a clue why that is so, and was hoping for suggestions regarding what might cause this. Any ideas? I was able to connect calls and converse when on the same LAN, and then again when one phone was on a wifi LAN and the other was on data (wifi turned off), but as soon as I move a phone to another location, no go.
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[01:40:51] <gerbear> I should point out that this is on a freedombox, so I didn't have much to do with configuring it other than supplying a couple of values in a wizard. Not my choice, freedombox uses Coturn for stun/turn. Conjecture: this makes turn/stun available to matrix synapse which is also availabe to install on a freedombox
[01:41:34] <gerbear> But I'd like to try to debug this to help the freedombox devs.
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[01:58:54] <gerbear> and I'm asking generally what kinds of things might prevent turn from completing, hoping I can figure out how to apply that to coturn, so that I don't have to create a gooyle id and log into goggle groups
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[06:32:32] <alan> gerbear: It sounds like you need to configure Ejabberd's internal STUN/TURN server along with defining the SRV records:
https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-set-up-ejabberd-video-voice-calling/
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[06:56:06] <Licaon_Kter> alan: SRVs are not used for STUN/TURN by the current clients
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[09:13:58] <kapad> » [08:56:06] <Licaon_Kter> alan: SRVs are not used for STUN/TURN by the current clients
so, how stun/turn discover by a client ?
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[09:21:39] <Licaon_Kter> kapad: XEP-0215
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[09:25:15] <kapad> merci !
[09:25:24] <kapad> merci !
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[09:36:30] <kapad> ! "urn:xmpp:extdisco:2" so,
- get an `Access denied by service policy` , query by an external account
- a list of transports when query by 'local' account
nice 👍
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[09:49:55] <kapad> never like the idea of `_xmppconnect.domain.tld` records, so never used, but online tools use to test your server, consider this as a negative point, even if is a proposition nowdays not use them.
so SRV records like `_stun._udp.<domain>`, `_turn._udp.<domain>`, are not required by `anything` in XMPP ?
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[11:34:42] <damonvd> Some clients require the SRV records and unless you're trying to run a private server I would implement them.
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[11:38:12] <damonvd> It looks like the primary point of the records is to allow other servers to talk to your server.  This link explains more, but I recommend them if you intend for it to work with arbitrary users and clients.
https://prosody.im/doc/dns
[11:39:27] <MattJ> You don't need _stun/_turn SRV records in XMPP, they aren't used by XMPP clients
[11:39:44] <MattJ> and _xmppconnect shouldn't be used either, it has security issues
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[11:40:09] <MattJ> _xmpp-client and _xmpp-server are good to have, but optional
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[11:43:33] <ZHOSKA> Hi. My ejabberd listens on ports 5222 5223 5269 and 5270. 5223 and 5270 are c2s and s2s connections with tls. Is it possible to somehow see which of the clients is connected in what way? Or to see on which port the inter-server connections are organized?
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[11:49:51] <kapad> MattJ: thanks.
[11:52:12] <kapad> ZHOSKA: maybe try: ``ejabberdctl connected_users_info``
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[11:56:36] <ZHOSKA> I tried it, it doesn't say anything about it
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[11:59:18] <ZHOSKA> I used to read that 5223 is used for old client applications. But the checks say that it is necessary not only to have a working 5223 but also 5270. Therefore, there are questions about which connection port is safer. In any case, even if I find the answer to this question, I will need information about c2s and s2s to analyze which connections my server has
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[12:09:46] <kapad> » it is necessary not only to have a working 5223 but also 5270
cant quiet understand this, 5222/5223 is what own users' clients use to connect to you, and 5269/5270 is what other servers use. how these are related ?
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[15:24:41] <ZHOSKA> I want to find out who is connecting to which port. To which port clients, to which port servers.
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[18:39:19] <kapad> SHOSKA: be comfortable and wathcing the logs is one of my favorite while try to understand things. So,try:
- tail -f /pathto/ejabberd/logs/ejabberd.log | ccze
or
- tail -f /pathto/ejabberd/logs/ejabberd.log | egrep 'c2s|s2s' | ccze
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[22:57:31] <gerbear> Does turn necessarily require a username and password, or can turn be used without authentication?
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[23:13:25] <gerbear> or is turn username/password just the same as the username/passwd for the ejabber account?
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[23:14:29] <Zash> It's common to generate temporary credentials on demand, as per https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-uberti-behave-turn-rest-00
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[23:16:45] gerbear cringes as seeing another yak that needs shaving...
[23:16:54] <gerbear> but thanks for the link :)
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[23:53:00] <gerbear> is this an appropriate forum for help with stun/turn issues, and if not, can anyone recommend a good forum for such things, preferably either IRC, XMPP or Matrix based?
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