Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Sunday, January 22, 2023< ^ >
zinid has set the subject to: ejabberd discussions: https://docs.ejabberd.im
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[04:45:36] <alan> gerbear: I might be able to guide you on configuring TURN, depending on your setup. Do you have a static IP on your ejabberd server?
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[05:48:31] <zen> Yo ejabberd is amazing!! thanks to all the maintainers
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[05:50:33] <zen> How do I enable people to register with a new account on my service? mainly wondering how I can remove my responsibility over setting their password
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[07:25:11] <Licaon_Kter> zen: eithet enable the open registration, but bad people can come then spam others. Or set the first password and have users change it afterwards, most don't.
Elsewhere Prosody has these:
https://blog.prosody.im/great-invitations/
But this was not yet coded for ejabberd
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[13:48:52] <zen> Oh, what's the mechanism for changing the password Licaon_Kter ?
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[13:51:10] <Licaon_Kter> zen: mod_register has this
[13:52:34] <zen> Okay! Where would someone interface with mod_register? is it via an API? can you do it with Dino?
[13:52:50] <Licaon_Kter> zen: clients that can register will do that yes
[13:52:56] <zen> Oh, it seems like you can actually. Sweet!
[13:52:57] <Licaon_Kter> dino, Conversations, Monal, etc
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[13:59:32] <zen> I'm having trouble figuring out how to make it happen in Dino... would the option only show up if mod_register is enabled?
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[14:00:52] <Licaon_Kter> zen: add account....is there a register option?
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[14:03:51] <zen> Oh but like, if they have already added the account and want to change their password, they'd use the same method? I think I might just have to try it out
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[14:31:01] <Licaon_Kter> zen: yes, but not in Dino, but Conversations or Gajim or others
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[16:49:09] <rom1dep> was that https://gultsch.social/@daniel/109598425498847494 a nag towards ejabberd's lacking support for sasl2/bind2?
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[16:54:05] <Licaon_Kter> Maybe, but no mention of https://metalhead.club/@holger ?
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[17:04:23] <rom1dep> off topic, but it's really hard to find a mastodon client that doesn't suck
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[19:29:23] <raver> Hey, who is responsible for detecting the mime type when using mod_http_upload_external with the prosody share.php script?
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[19:30:12] <raver> Because the header in the get request is always application/octet-stream
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[19:57:16] <gerbear> alan: Sorry for the silence. I've afk taking a break. Thanks for the offer. Don't know what time zone you are in, but I'm going to be close to my screen now for the next few hours if you are available to help me still o/
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[20:05:25] <egnun> Hello, I just tried upgrading to ejabberd-23.01-01 on Fedora and I get an error
> Downloading successful, but checksum doesn't match
[20:05:48] <egnun> *but I get an error
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[20:14:31] <gerbear> I'd just try the download again.
[20:18:09] <rom1dep> I'm seeing some database model changes from #3980, but nowhere do I see instructions about how to actually perform the migration, is that "normal"?
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[20:20:26] <gerbear> alan, just reread your message to me. Yes I have a static IP on the ejabberd server
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[20:33:37] <gerbear> Oh, and, initially I have a couple of questions regarding understanding of the link Za sh sent me 4 messages before your message to me
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[20:34:12] <gerbear> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-uberti-behave-turn-rest-00)
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[20:44:21] <alan> gerbear: Did you fill in the mod_stun_disco section of ejabberd.yml? In particular the portion with `type: turn` with the raw static IP address (no domain)?
[20:44:52] <alan> Something like this:
    mod_stun_disco:
      credentials_lifetime: 12h
      services:
        -
          host: {{ ejabberd_conf_ip_address }}
          port: 3478
          type: stun
          transport: udp
          restricted: false
        -
          host: {{ ejabberd_conf_ip_address }}
          port: 3478
          type: turn
          transport: udp
          restricted: true
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[20:47:47] <alan> You also need a corresponding listen modules:
    -
      port: 3478
      ip: "::"
      transport: udp
      module: ejabberd_stun
      use_turn: true
      ## The server's public IPv4 address:
      turn_ipv4_address: {{ ejabberd_conf_ip_address }}
      ## The server's public IPv6 address:
  #    turn_ipv6_address: 2001:569:fd20:6800:1eb7:2cff:fe2f:8faf
    -
      port: 3478
      ip: "::"
      transport: tcp
      module: ejabberd_stun
      use_turn: true
      ## The server's public IPv4 address:
      turn_ipv4_address: {{ ejabberd_conf_ip_address }}
      ## The server's public IPv6 address:
  #    turn_ipv6_address: 2001:569:fd20:6800:1eb7:2cff:fe2f:8faf
    -
      port: 5349
      ip: "::"
      transport: tcp
      module: ejabberd_stun
      use_turn: true
      tls: true
      ## The server's public IPv4 address:
      turn_ipv4_address: {{ ejabberd_conf_ip_address }}
      ## The server's public IPv6 address:
  #    turn_ipv6_address: 2001:569:fd20:6800:1eb7:2cff:fe2f:8faf
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[20:47:57] <alan> You also need the corresponding listen modules:
    -
      port: 3478
      ip: "::"
      transport: udp
      module: ejabberd_stun
      use_turn: true
      ## The server's public IPv4 address:
      turn_ipv4_address: {{ ejabberd_conf_ip_address }}
      ## The server's public IPv6 address:
  #    turn_ipv6_address: 2001:569:fd20:6800:1eb7:2cff:fe2f:8faf
    -
      port: 3478
      ip: "::"
      transport: tcp
      module: ejabberd_stun
      use_turn: true
      ## The server's public IPv4 address:
      turn_ipv4_address: {{ ejabberd_conf_ip_address }}
      ## The server's public IPv6 address:
  #    turn_ipv6_address: 2001:569:fd20:6800:1eb7:2cff:fe2f:8faf
    -
      port: 5349
      ip: "::"
      transport: tcp
      module: ejabberd_stun
      use_turn: true
      tls: true
      ## The server's public IPv4 address:
      turn_ipv4_address: {{ ejabberd_conf_ip_address }}
      ## The server's public IPv6 address:
  #    turn_ipv6_address: 2001:569:fd20:6800:1eb7:2cff:fe2f:8faf
[20:48:46] <alan> Relevant info:
https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/listen/#ejabberd-stun-1
https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-set-up-ejabberd-video-voice-calling/
[20:49:13] <gerbear> the thing is, I didn't fill out anything in the configs. It was all done through install wizards on a Freedombox. The way FBX does it, coturn is used for stun/turn rather than ejabberd built in handler. Not sure why. Probably so that stun/turn is available to apps other than ejabberd. So, I'm at the moment trying to figure out which part of my fbx setup is supposed to be doing which parts of the stuff in that link
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[20:53:56] <gerbear> for example, to whom does the client make the HTTP GET request for temporary credentials? Am I supposed to have separate service to grant temporary credentials?
[20:54:37] <gerbear> or does the stun/turn server do that too?
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[20:55:03] <Zash> XMPP clients ask via https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0215.html
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[20:55:56] <gerbear> do all xmpp clients use that service?
[20:56:11] <gerbear> or so some use their own?
[20:56:45] <gerbear> ignore that
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[20:58:34] <gerbear> OK, according to Conversation IM my server is XEP-0215 capable, so I guess I have the necessary package/module/etc installed
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[20:58:57] <gerbear> and am running the necessary service
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[21:02:29] <gerbear> What would I be looking for in logs (key word/phrase) to ensure that the client is making the request and that ejabberd is processing the request? and would this be in ejabberd logs or in adb logcat output?
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[22:05:10] <Licaon_Kter> gerbear: the Conversations screen does not say that in works, just that the server advertises support
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[22:13:11] <gerbear> Licaon_Kter, yes, I know. What would I look for in either the usb debug output on the phone, on in the ejabberd logs to see if that initial HTTP GET is being 1) transmitted properly, and 2) is seen by ejabberd?
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[22:13:57] <gerbear> oh, I bet there might be xep 0215 in it. I'll check the logs for that
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[22:16:14] <gerbear> nope.
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[22:29:14] <kapad> from https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/modules/#mod-stun-disco ,
i can understand that for inner ejabberd turn/stun functionality, you have to define `services` inside the module, only if use ``tls``. if for example only ``udp`` transports offered, `services` section can be omitted.
[22:30:08] <gerbear> should I see the actual GET request in the logs? or HTTP?
[22:30:38] <kapad> alan: if i'm right in `services` section must advertise the transport listen on port 5349
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[23:27:34] <Licaon_Kter> gerbear: there's no http or get for stun/turn, those are sent via xmpp, bump logs on your server
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[23:46:05] <gerbear> but, but, but... https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-uberti-behave-turn-rest-00 says, in the first sentence under heading "2. HTTP Interactions", "To retrieve a new set of credentials, the client makes a HTTP GET request, specifying TURN as the service to allocate credentials for" so, it gets enclosed inside xmpp?
[23:46:36] <gerbear> and I don't understand what bumping logs means, could you elaborate?
[23:47:13] <Zash> There's no HTTP, it's a XEP-0215 request over XMPP, but the method to generate the temporary credentials is the same as in that draft
[23:47:33] <gerbear> ah right, that's a draft
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[23:48:16] <Zash> Mostly the method matters because they way it works allows an XMPP server to generate credentials without talking to the STUN/TURN server (in cases where they're separate, and not built into ejabberd as the case may be here)
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