Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Wednesday, February 1, 2023< ^ >
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Room Configuration
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[00:02:01] <gerbear> I mean the secret is in the configs of both ejabberd and coTurn. What more is needed?
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[01:48:53] <gerbear> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s58iTzznkp0
[01:49:52] <gerbear> nailed it. Configuration error. "restricted:" needs to be "true" for type:turn in the mod_stun_disco section.
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[01:50:31] <gerbear> credentials are now being passed to the clients so they can authenticate with coturn
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[02:23:12] <gerbear> I've passed this on the Freedombox devs
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[04:31:24] <Licaon_Kter> gerbear: so it was a freedombox default coturn config issue?
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[12:10:58] <gerbear> Licaon_Kter, no, a freedombox default ejabberd config issue
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[12:11:51] <Licaon_Kter> Ah, link to issue?
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[12:12:58] <gerbear> https://salsa.debian.org/freedombox-team/freedombox/-/issues/2318
[12:13:16] <gerbear> Licaon_Kter, ^^^
[12:14:11] <Holger> They could just omit the `restricted` option FWIW, it defaults to `false` for `type: stun` and to `true` for `type: turn`.  Just exists to cope with unusual setups.
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[12:15:17] <gerbear> Holger, I'll pass that info on
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[13:14:37] <gerbear> > 2023-01-31 | 05:56:42 PM  ‎Holger‎: Those are used for deriving temporary TURN credentials handed over to clients. I.e. clients receive them from the XMPP server and use them for authenticating against the TURN server.
[13:14:56] <gerbear> that explanation was key to me figuring this out
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[13:15:57] <gerbear> Who made the credentials and how they were used, and their relationship was vague from my reading up til your brief explanation
[13:16:17] <gerbear> and their relationship *with the shared secret*
[13:16:37] <gerbear> that would be nice to see in a doc somewhere
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[13:17:39] <gerbear> I should say that one of the things that was vague was, between client, xmpp server and turn server, who was dropping the turn ball
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[13:18:59] <gerbear> I had suspected that turn was the culprit thanks to comments here and in Conversations IM chat, but I couldn't figure out the temporary credentials bit until that statement
[13:19:09] <gerbear> so thanks
[13:19:57] <Holger> Yeah, maybe a sentence or two could be added to https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/modules/#mod-stun-disco ...
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[13:20:55] <gerbear> I didn't look there until after I'd seen your brief statement
[13:21:14] <gerbear> so short and sweet, but so clear
[13:21:43] <Holger> 🙂
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[13:21:57] <gerbear> I knew better where to start sniffing once I knew how the temporary auth worked
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[13:22:34] <Holger> I have a paragraph at the top of https://eturnal.net/documentation/ where I try to summarize how the creds are derived from the secret ...
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[13:31:31] <gerbear> I'd come across eturnal, but I never read anything there because my setup was using coturn. I'd been to test sites for checking stun/turn setups that had similar descriptions. For someone like me, who does this not professionally, but as a hobby, and who is not a full blown geek, "The service offering the credentials" is too vague. I couldn't figure who this service was and how to invoke it, until you explicitly said "clients receive them from the xmpp server". Even if I'd been working with matrix protocol rather than xmpp, I'd've known that at was the just the server offering sip calls.
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[13:33:33] <gerbear> Anyway, I just wanna make tons of calls to everyone now even though I've nothing in particular to say to them :)
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[20:05:19] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: fyi, this has been a pain since they updated to 23.01, not sure if related
https://metalhead.club/@thomas/109790932723815719
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