Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Tuesday, May 30, 2023< ^ >
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[09:24:24] <Holger> > if nobody can help me soon ima get right angry and possibly switch to prosody again
PANIC!!
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[09:24:31] <Holger> Hope you don't want all your money back then.
[09:24:57] <Holger> Kris:
> I find these defaults also mildly annoying to be honest
What defaults?
[09:25:42] <Kris> For the subdomains like uploads.
[09:26:03] <Kris> They seem to be hardcoded
[09:26:10] <Holger> Kris, no they're not.
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[09:27:18] <Holger> Kris, upload is a special case where I'm not sure what you're talking about: the `put_url` (which refers to the *HTTP* domain) or the `host` (which refers to the *XMPP* service JID that you can usually just ignore, but you can change it if there's a real reason).
[09:29:12] <Holger> The one thing that's meh about upload specifically (and it's my fault) is that _you_ cannot hard-code a global `put_url` in the config and have that being used by multiple domains.  You need to throw in the `@HOST@` keyword somewhere if you don't stick to the default (e.g., `https://example.com/@HOST@`).  Maybe you mean that?
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[09:33:35] <Kris> As I said its not a big deal, but if you use an other subdomain you get all sorts of warnings related to certs mostly. And it is not only .uploads
[09:33:58] <Holger> Oh you mean the fact that subdomains are used at all.
[09:34:11] <Kris> Yes
[09:34:48] <Holger> Right, Prosody allows for running multiple XMPP services on a single domain.  Traditionally XMPP servers were never run that way and I'm not sure we want to open that can of worms.
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[09:35:28] <Kris> It also happens when you use a custom subdomain instead
[09:35:33] <Kris> Like share.
[09:36:38] <Kris> I agree that putting an upload service on the same domain that you might for example run a webclient is a bad idea.
[09:37:33] <Kris> The Fediverse server I am using just had multiple security issues with the media proxy because of that.
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[09:38:13] <Holger> Right now the ejabberd-internal stanza routing is based on the domain.  We'd have to start inspecting each and every stanza deeper to support that kind of 'multiplexing', and in different ways depending on the service.  And I think it's just meh that the fact whether you can register the account `foo@example.com` depends on whether the room `foo@example.com`exists, and vice versa.  (Can also be another way to check whether that accounts exists BTW.)  And so on.  Can of worms.
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[09:39:04] <Holger> > I agree that putting an upload service on the same domain that you might for example run a webclient is a bad idea.
Kris, that sounds like a misunderstanding though.  You can easily offer the HTTP uploads on `https://example.com` for the XMPP domain `example.com`.
[09:39:22] <Holger> Kris, I think you're mixing up two unrelated issues.
[09:39:31] <Kris> Can but not should is what I mean.
[09:40:06] <Kris> No I think we are talking slightly besides each other.
[09:40:09] <Holger> Yes but I understood you to imply that ejabberd wouldn't allow for doing so.  This specifically is no problem at all.  `put_url: https://@HOST@`, done.
[09:40:28] <Holger> We just didn't make this the default.
[09:41:34] <Holger> > I  think we are talking slightly besides each other.
You also mentioned the point that *XMPP* subdomains are being used at all, e.g. `conference.example.com`, `pubsub.example.com` and (this is not the HTTP domain!) `upload.example.com`.
[09:41:52] <Holger> That's a basic ejabberd design thing and unrelated to the `put_url` option.
[09:41:56] <Kris> Well the original issue was that if you use for example share.example.com or http_uploads some parts of ejabberd are hardcoded to still look for uploads.example.com even if that domain is never mentioned in the config anywhere.
[09:42:27] <Kris> Well the original issue was that if you use for example share.example.com for http_uploads some parts of ejabberd are hardcoded to still look for uploads.example.com even if that domain is never mentioned in the config anywhere.
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[09:42:50] <Holger> Yes that mixes both issues perfectly 🙂
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[09:45:04] <Holger> > even if that domain is never mentioned in the config anywhere.
Yes we try to keep the example config short, I think that's generally helpful.  What you mean here is:
```
modules:
  mod_http_upload:
    host: upload.@HOST@ # This is the default and can be changed.
```
[09:45:29] <Holger> That's consistent with the behavior of other modules such as `mod_pubsub` or `mod_muc`.  (And documented, of course.)
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[09:46:11] <Holger> Long story short, not sure how to improve things here 🙂
[09:46:55] <badlop> kicking trolls
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[09:47:28] <Kris> Holger: yeah 🤷‍♂️ not a big deal.
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[10:54:15] <Licaon_Kter> badlop: but Kris and Holger are still here, what do you mean?
/jk
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[13:54:56] <Miguel Yoda> Hi all
I'm trying to get 100% compliance ifor this server but I can't pass on the "XEP-0368: SRV records for XMPP over TLS" teste.
On my domain manager I already create the below indicated SRV records, but without any sucess on the test.
Can anyone please guide me to a possible solution?
Kind regards,
[quote]
_xmpp-client._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5222 ccpp.pt 3600
_xmpp-server._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5269 ccpp.pt 3600
_xmpps-client._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5223 ccpp.pt 3600
_xmpps-server._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5270 ccpp.pt 3600
_stun._udp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
_stun._tcp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
_stuns._tcp  IN SRV  0 0 5349 ccpp.pt
_turn._udp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
_turn._tcp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
_turns._tcp  IN SRV  0 0 5349 ccpp.pt
[13:55:09] <Miguel Yoda> Hi all
I'm trying to get 100% compliance for this server but I can't pass on the "XEP-0368: SRV records for XMPP over TLS" teste.
On my domain manager I already create the below indicated SRV records, but without any sucess on the test.
Can anyone please guide me to a possible solution?
Kind regards,
[quote]
_xmpp-client._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5222 ccpp.pt 3600
_xmpp-server._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5269 ccpp.pt 3600
_xmpps-client._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5223 ccpp.pt 3600
_xmpps-server._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5270 ccpp.pt 3600
_stun._udp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
_stun._tcp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
_stuns._tcp  IN SRV  0 0 5349 ccpp.pt
_turn._udp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
_turn._tcp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
_turns._tcp  IN SRV  0 0 5349 ccpp.pt
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[13:55:25] <Miguel Yoda> Hi all
I'm trying to get 100% compliance for this server but I can't pass on the "XEP-0368: SRV records for XMPP over TLS" test.
On my domain manager I already create the below indicated SRV records, but without any sucess on the test.
Can anyone please guide me to a possible solution?
Kind regards,
[quote]
_xmpp-client._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5222 ccpp.pt 3600
_xmpp-server._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5269 ccpp.pt 3600
_xmpps-client._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5223 ccpp.pt 3600
_xmpps-server._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5270 ccpp.pt 3600
_stun._udp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
_stun._tcp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
_stuns._tcp  IN SRV  0 0 5349 ccpp.pt
_turn._udp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
_turn._tcp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
_turns._tcp  IN SRV  0 0 5349 ccpp.pt
[13:57:15] <Miguel Yoda> Hi all
I'm trying to get 100% compliance for this server (https://compliance.conversations.im/server/ccpp.pt/) but I can't pass on the "XEP-0368: SRV records for XMPP over TLS" test.
On my domain manager I already create the below indicated SRV records, but without any sucess on the test.
Can anyone please guide me to a possible solution?
Kind regards,
[quote]
_xmpp-client._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5222 ccpp.pt 3600
_xmpp-server._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5269 ccpp.pt 3600
_xmpps-client._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5223 ccpp.pt 3600
_xmpps-server._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5270 ccpp.pt 3600
_stun._udp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
_stun._tcp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
_stuns._tcp  IN SRV  0 0 5349 ccpp.pt
_turn._udp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
_turn._tcp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
_turns._tcp  IN SRV  0 0 5349 ccpp.pt
[13:57:59] <Kris> dns records take time to propagate. try again tomorrow
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[13:58:52] <Miguel Yoda> > dns records take time to propagate. try again tomorrow
Hi Kris, it was last week (on monday)😕️
[13:59:28] <Holger> You don't need the STUN/TURN entries BTW (only very old clients such as Jitsi Desktop would use those).
[14:00:03] <Kris> hmm, then I don't know. sorry
[14:00:48] <Kris> I never bothered with 100% as I don't agree with some of the choices in that complicance tester
[14:00:57] <Miguel Yoda> > You don't need the STUN/TURN entries BTW (only very old clients such as Jitsi Desktop would use those).
Hi Holger, Thank you for your advice. I will then delete that srv records
[14:01:21] <Zash> Does your server actually listen on the Direct TLS ports?
[14:01:33] <Miguel Yoda> > I never bothered with 100% as I don't agree with some of the choices in that complicance tester
Thank you kris for your support
[14:01:49] <prefiks> i think there is problem with accessing xmpp.ccpp.pt:5223 that you have in xmpps-client
[14:01:56] <Zash> Youc could check with
[14:01:58] <Zash> Youc could check with https://connect.xmpp.net/
[14:02:34] <Holger> Miguel Yoda, yeah, as prefiks said, that port seems to be filtered.
[14:03:32] <Miguel Yoda> > Does your server actually listen on the Direct TLS ports?
Hi Zash. Thank you. I think I have all those ports open in UFW (if it's what you mean). I will check with that test
[14:04:05] <prefiks> at least 'openssl s_client -connect xmpp.ccpp.pt:5223 -xmpphost ccpp.pt' timeouts
[14:04:47] <Miguel Yoda> Prefiks and Holger thank you very much. I will check the ufw rules.
[14:05:18] <Holger> prefiks, just BTW, `-xmpphost` is for STARTTLS, you'd use `-servername` for direct TLS (SNI).
[14:05:34] <prefiks> i know, was also testing starttls ports
[14:05:41] <prefiks> and just left that ;)
[14:06:18] <Holger> Then just for anyone else trying this at home 🙂
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[14:22:45] <Miguel Yoda> > Hi all
> I'm trying to get 100% compliance for this server (https://compliance.conversations.im/server/ccpp.pt/) but I can't pass on the "XEP-0368: SRV records for XMPP over TLS" test.
> On my domain manager I already create the below indicated SRV records, but without any sucess on the test.
> Can anyone please guide me to a possible solution?
> Kind regards,
>
> [quote]
> _xmpp-client._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5222 ccpp.pt 3600
> _xmpp-server._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5269 ccpp.pt 3600
> _xmpps-client._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5223 ccpp.pt 3600
> _xmpps-server._tcp IN ccpp.pt 5 0 5270 ccpp.pt 3600
>
> _stun._udp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
> _stun._tcp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
> _stuns._tcp  IN SRV  0 0 5349 ccpp.pt
>
> _turn._udp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
> _turn._tcp   IN SRV  0 0 3478 ccpp.pt
> _turns._tcp  IN SRV  0 0 5349 ccpp.pt
>
Solved. I added the 5223 rule on UFW and get 100% now. Thank you so much for your help! Kind regards
[14:22:57] <Holger> 👍️
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[14:31:03] <Kris> it's always the firewall 🤦‍♂️️
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[14:34:32] <Miguel Yoda> > it's always the firewall 🤦‍♂️️
😅
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[18:03:24] <Miguel Yoda> Hi all. I'm getting this warnings on ejabberd.log :
2023-05-30 19:58:28.905133+02:00 [warning] <0.555.0>@ejabberd_pkix:log_warnings/1:393 Invalid certificate in /opt/ejabberd/certs/ccpp.pt/fullchain.pem: at line 61: certificate is no longer valid as its expiration date has passed
2023-05-30 19:58:28.905197+02:00 [warning] <0.555.0>@ejabberd_pkix:log_warnings/1:393 Invalid certificate in /opt/ejabberd/certs/upload.ccpp.pt/fullchain1.pem: at line 61: certificate is no longer valid as its expiration date has passed
2023-05-30 19:58:28.905243+02:00 [warning] <0.555.0>@ejabberd_pkix:log_warnings/1:393 Invalid certificate in /opt/ejabberd/certs/proxy.ccpp.pt/fullchain1.pem: at line 61: certificate is no longer valid as its expiration date has passed
2023-05-30 19:58:28.905284+02:00 [warning] <0.555.0>@ejabberd_pkix:log_warnings/1:393 Invalid certificate in /opt/ejabberd/certs/pubsub.ccpp.pt/fullchain1.pem: at line 61: certificate is no longer valid as its expiration date has passed
2023-05-30 19:58:28.905327+02:00 [warning] <0.555.0>@ejabberd_pkix:log_warnings/1:393 Invalid certificate in /opt/ejabberd/certs/conference.ccpp.pt/fullchain1.pem: at line 61: certificate is no longer valid as its expiration date has passed
                                                                                                    
[18:03:53] <Miguel Yoda> but the checker indicates all is well
[18:04:06] <Miguel Yoda> https://ccpp.pt:5443/upload/c076ad11934799d6663362766bf9a251f81817e6/zaex14PFNwKRuIJmBonM5MnyXlSyRouK6Q5RrKe0/fb8f3fef-622a-4579-909a-0e3f23c70ddf.png
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[18:04:54] <Miguel Yoda> 🤔️
with certificates expiring at 2023-08-17T20:15:45Z.
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[18:06:06] <Miguel Yoda> Does anyone know what's going on?
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[18:08:04] <Licaon_Kter> Miguel Yoda: what do you see at line 61? How many cert block do you have in that file?
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[18:29:07] <Miguel Yoda> > Miguel Yoda: what do you see at line 61? How many cert block do you have in that file?
Hi Licaon_Kter. The file was generated automatically by certbot. I will check what's on line 61.
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[19:57:29] <Miguel Yoda> > Miguel Yoda: what do you see at line 61? How many cert block do you have in that file?
At line 61: ----- begin certificate -----
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[19:57:55] <Miguel Yoda> On each cert file I have 3 blocks.
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[19:58:19] <Miguel Yoda> The line 61 is the beginning of the third one
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[19:59:58] <Licaon_Kter> Can you remove the third one and `reload_config` ?
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[20:01:20] <Miguel Yoda> > Can you remove the third one and `reload_config` ?
I will try that. Thank you
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[20:11:47] <Miguel Yoda> > Can you remove the third one and `reload_config` ?
It solved the issue 🤗. Thank you once again. Do you know if I will need to this everityme I renew the certificates with certbot? 🤔
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[20:13:11] <Licaon_Kter> Miguel Yoda: not sure what's the third one or why is that expired, dig into the certbot docs
[20:13:51] <Miguel Yoda> > Miguel Yoda: not sure what's the third one or why is that expired, dig into the certbot docs
Ok I will do that. Thanks!!!!
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[23:38:14] <kapad> Miguel Yoda: Your certificate at `yourdomain.tld` doesn't include `xmpp.yourdomain.tld` in its subdomains ( neither your other domains).
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[23:38:36] <kapad> Miguel Yoda: Your certificate at `yourdomain.tld` doesn't include `xmpp.yourdomain.tld` in its subdomains ( neither your other sub-domains ).
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