Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Friday, June 30, 2023< ^ >
zinid has set the subject to: ejabberd discussions: https://docs.ejabberd.im
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[04:26:43] <☭Mike Yellow> The translation of Ejabberd is made by maintainers or free volunteers?
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[04:32:35] <wolixoriginal> Good morning everyone
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[04:48:44] <Licaon_Kter> ☭Mike Yellow: volunteers
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[04:50:53] <☭Mike Yellow> A bad translation:
“Make room moderated”→“设置房间只接收主持人” (“Make room moderators-only”).
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[05:00:39] <☭Mike Yellow> This bad translation is used from the old version used by conversations.im to the latest version.
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[05:03:18] <☭Mike Yellow> Just set it to the correct: “使房间受到管理”.
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[05:20:28] <Licaon_Kter> ☭Mike Yellow: this is not the Conversations client channel.
Also conversations.im is a site or a xmpp server, it's not server software nor client.
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[05:39:25] <☭Mike Yellow> > ~This bad translation is used from the old version used by conversations.im to the latest version.~
This bad translation is used from Ejabberd 19.05.13 to the latest version.
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[05:48:15] <Chunk> guys i sorry i massive jerk before, i actually luv ejabberd now
[05:48:33] <Chunk> massive massive learning curve tho huuuuuuge one, was enraging at times
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[06:10:34] <Licaon_Kter> Chunk: false, always was super easy, must be a PEBKAK thing
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[06:10:46] <Chunk> yea
[06:10:54] <Chunk> lmfao especially
[06:11:00] <Chunk> LIES
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[06:11:16] <Chunk> but i dunno, i struggled a lot figuring out the prosody config too back in the day
[06:11:22] <Chunk> just ejabberd considerably more
[06:11:33] <Chunk> WHAT HELPED MOST was finding the ejabberd.yml man page
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[06:12:55] <Licaon_Kter> docs.ejabberd.im you mean? RTFM much?
[06:12:58] <Chunk> Licaon_Kter, you remember i wanted to use ALL custom domains right?  like custom as FK, but i discovered how to do that: I use in the main modules block all BUT the domain related options then afterwards use `append_host_config:` and THEN add the mod_muc, mod_pubsub, mod_proxy65, etc
[06:13:09] <Chunk> what does RTFM mean again?
[06:13:09] <Licaon_Kter> Right
[06:13:27] <Licaon_Kter> Read The eFFing Manual
[06:13:38] <Chunk> no after 10 years of linux you'd think i'd know things like that, like how to fkn research information like that, except i struggle with reading to some extent
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[06:13:42] <Chunk> in an odd way
[06:14:01] <Chunk> ahh yea, i did read the manual, i read the SHIT outta it, it DOES NOT STATE what the MAN PAGE does
[06:14:17] <Chunk> that is (i can't recall exactly) what is what helped me understand
[06:15:09] <Chunk> so now Im curious, like a kitty that's about to get caught in a bear trap, lol, about trying to maybe convert to mysql, and trying the erlang shell, and stuff that will GUARANTEE downtime for my xmpps
[06:15:19] <Licaon_Kter> Interesting, maybe spell out the missing knowledge so we can update it, or you
[06:15:41] <Chunk> hmm...  well im a little busy ...  shit
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[06:15:48] <Chunk> that is something that i would like to do  :/
[06:15:50] <Licaon_Kter> Eh
[06:16:05] <Chunk> apparently so busy i can chat my face off, k gimme a sec
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[06:17:40] <Chunk> k Licaon_Kter what the online docs did not mention was what this does: https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/kinetic/en/man5/ejabberd.yml.5.html
[06:17:45] <Chunk> is the structure of the config file
[06:17:52] <Chunk> where there's a top level, listen, etc
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[06:18:35] <Chunk> there might've been another line in the huge ass page somewhere that helped me understand that I should use `append_host_config` for AFTER configurations and `host_config` NOT FOR MODULE CONFIGS
[06:19:41] <Chunk> there, there you have it, if it helps anybody please mention in online docs that host_config is not use with modules and append_host_config is for module configuration after the main block AND if you would please add somewhere a place so people can understand using non-default subdomains
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[06:37:44] <Holger> Well the `append_host_config` description says just that: https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/toplevel/#append-host-config
[06:37:56] <Holger> But maybe this should be mentioned in the `host_config` description as well.
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[06:38:43] <Chunk> yea im totally sorry if some of what I saying is gray area, its coming from a few weeks old memory
[06:40:01] <Holger> No I think you have a point regard append_host vs. host.  That thing is certainly weirdo for newcomers.  Good docs are hard :-)
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[06:41:16] <Chunk> hey i won't lie, ejabberd docs online are very much appreciated
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[07:33:02] <wolixoriginal> Hello there iam have question about ejabberd how host my own instance on xmpp
[07:33:32] <wolixoriginal> Also federated this instance iam on
[07:34:01] <Chunk> do u already use xmpp?
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[07:34:37] <Chunk> do u use linux?  have acess to a linux vps?
[07:34:53] <Chunk> (linode.com) and have a domain?
[07:34:59] <Chunk> wolixoriginal: ?
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[07:36:16] <wolixoriginal> Actually iam like self Hosted my own instance use localhost and federated this local host
[07:36:43] <Licaon_Kter> wolixoriginal: what's the question then?
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[07:37:34] <Chunk> heh, lolwut
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[07:38:17] <wolixoriginal> Actually iam have question about xmpp servers it's okay self Hosted on your own laptop and use localhost and federated on localhost
[07:39:15] <wolixoriginal> Sorry my English some times bad just trying explain get on barrier of don't know understanding of iam asking for
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[07:43:41] <wolixoriginal> Ejabberd be really good to self Hosted on older laptops this be question iam asking for it just have problems say this people don't know my main language
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[07:58:30] <Chunk> you can't federate xmpp from localhost
[07:58:59] <Chunk> it requires public WAN IP and ports :5222 (c2s) + :5269 (s2s) at the minimum to federate
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[08:35:53] <wolixoriginal> How be like know iam from Serbia and here some times internet providers be control what be ip address be opening and what not yeah say iam try federated matrix srw out of box
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[08:36:14] <wolixoriginal> And using docker
[08:37:53] <wolixoriginal> Docker similar to virtual machines and pretty much similar to any powerful linode service and say least linode iam try out by self and some how don't liked
[08:39:10] <wolixoriginal> Better don't have trust on linode service be have tos or something else pretty much be private and now buy it by no private company
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[08:40:53] <wolixoriginal> https://disroot.org/upload/6565008d-a6b9-4e93-be37-57bba3b0da90/zb2rhosQ3p1KGBrRjaaqCUfL7TcwBhePqi2JXDkVCsJTtycN3.jpg
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[08:41:29] <wolixoriginal> Akamai buy it linode last year and now be integration to akamai service
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[08:54:05] <Kris> Sounds like those ISPs use a CGNAT, and no ejabberd will not work behind one either.
[08:55:47] <Kris> You need a public IP and port 5222 and 5269
[08:55:55] <Kris> Open
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[09:15:31] <Chunk> wolixoriginal, well you will 99.9% likely need a VPS or otherwise a static IPv4/IPv6
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[09:15:56] <Chunk> A guy can get a static IP address on his home router in Canada with some services.  And ipv6
[09:16:43] <Kris> It has to be a public IP. No need for it to be static although it helps a bit.
[09:16:58] <Chunk> eh, good distinction
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[18:18:35] <Licaon_Kter> neox: is https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/4054 the same issue you are facing?
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[19:24:55] <neox_> Licaon_Kter, not exactly. I don't see any error when ejabberd crashes (because that's systemd that kills it, and if I disable systemd watchdog it just becomes unresponsive for some time)
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