Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, March 11, 2024< ^ >
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[00:14:16] <joeDoe> Kris, arcanicanis, the default was 100, bumped it to 150 and everything is good. Thanks both
[00:15:05] <Kris> right, 100. 20 is nginx I think (if you reverse-proxy it)
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[00:15:51] <joeDoe> Kris, no, Monal 6.1.1 and ejabberd 23.01
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[00:16:26] <Kris> hmm, ok thanks. I hoped you could confirm the issue we have with Monal and ejabberd 24.02
[00:16:42] <Kris> odd that no one else that upgraded has this login issze
[00:16:48] <Kris> odd that no one else that upgraded has this login issue
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[01:12:44] <Kris> > On a modern server supporting sasl2 (which ejabberd 24.02 does), monal deactivates the less secure PLAIN authentication and only supports SCRAM.
[01:13:24] <Kris> do I remember correctly that there was an issue with non-PLAIN and external auth scripts?
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[01:25:48] <Kris> I guess the same applies to LDAP auth?
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[01:26:50] <Kris> https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/authentication/#scram
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[01:27:17] <arcanicanis> I assume you can't use external auth scripts and the SCRAM auth mechanism together though?
[01:27:24] <Kris> "Foreign authentification" is what is relevant by this
[01:27:38] <Kris> yes that is what I am guessing
[01:28:02] <Kris> so Monal + ejabberd + LDAP doesn't work anymore since 24.02
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[01:28:34] <arcanicanis> Well, I believe it's because you're prohibiting PLAIN auth though?
[01:28:46] <Kris> monal does
[01:29:02] <Kris> it works with other clients
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[01:37:55] <arcanicanis> I assume from what you've quoted implies that it's the client that's rejecting to use the PLAIN auth mode, as a security measure, because of the server advertising SASL2 support:
> On a modern server supporting sasl2 (which ejabberd 24.02 does), monal deactivates the less secure PLAIN authentication and only supports SCRAM.
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[01:39:25] <Kris> yes that is what I assume happens
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[01:44:54] <arcanicanis> It's too bad there isn't a way to have an auth script that can just retrieve a SCRAM hash for a given user (rather than all external auth scripts inherently being for externally verifying a password via PLAIN mechanism), such as to have a script that pulls from LDAP (under a different attribute of a user), and just have whatever admin frontend to the LDAP DB to generate a SCRAM hash whenever the user's password is changed
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[01:48:04] <Kris> yeah something like that would be probably good.
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[02:06:00] <Kris> is there a way to selectively configure ejabberd for a vhost with external auth to not advertise sasl2 support to avoid this problem?
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[05:00:37] <Licaon_Kter> Kris: https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/toplevel/#disable-sasl-mechanisms maybe?
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[07:12:34] <Thomas> Hi, I'm trying to use ldap authentification. I found how to set up the right jid attribute (ldap_uids: attr: "%u"), but not the jid password. Can you help me please?
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[07:27:09] <Manis> I'd need to check. Does it use userPassword by default maybe?
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[07:27:19] <Thomas> Mmh, I'm wrong, there is no issue with password. The issue is "%u", I should use "%u@domain.tld"
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[07:27:35] <Thomas> Manis, yes, it's userPassword
[07:27:55] <Thomas> I must find a way to use full jid and not the first part
[07:28:14] <Manis> ?
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[07:30:05] <Thomas> I thought there was a problem with the password but the problem is the ldap_uids.
I must use: ldap_uids: "attr": "%u@domain.tld"
I'd like to use: ldap_uids: "attr": "%u"
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[07:30:33] <Manis> "%u" should work?
[07:31:02] <Manis> https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/toplevel/#ldap-uids
[07:31:10] <Thomas> it's not, debug loglevel says it uses only the first part.
And it works with "%u@domain.tld"
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[07:31:40] <Manis> Ah, you have mixed domains in one LDAP directory?
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[07:31:52] <Thomas> yes
[07:32:14] <Thomas> and my attr has the full jid with @domain.tld
[07:32:15] <Manis> Hmm, can you set ldap_uids for every vhost?
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[07:33:09] <Thomas> Right now I'm only using ldap on a testing environnement, so I can modify my ldap to find the good domain.
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[07:34:29] <Manis> TBH I find the docs for ldap_uids confusing. I'll check my server configuration and report back if I can see something helpful in there.
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[07:35:21] <Thomas> Before I used sql authentification and I had to use as much database as domain.
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[07:36:12] <Manis> Yes, I think ejabberd expects one DB for every domain.
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[07:37:23] <Thomas> I use host_config for my current domain, I'll try to add another domain. Thanks Manis ;)
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[07:45:33] <Manis> On my server I have `ldap_uids: ["cn"]`.
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[07:45:54] <Manis> Thomas: do you not have an LDAP attribute containing only the user-part of the JID?
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[07:50:02] <Thomas> no, should I ?
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[07:53:55] <Manis> Thomas: I think so, but I cannot really tell without knowing the structure of your LDAP.
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[07:59:21] <Thomas> Anyway it works with adding (attr=*@domain.tld") in the ldap filter and ldap_uids: "attr": "%u@domain.tld"
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[08:01:50] <Manis> Ah cool, that's what I'd have tried next, too.
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[08:02:35] <Manis> I don't really understand why it works but well.
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[08:07:47] <Thomas> Thanks for your help Manis :)
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[08:08:30] <Manis> np, Thomas.
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[09:12:32] <Thomas> Now ldap auth works fine with mnesia database. But I can't use mysql instead of mnesia. I tried this config for one specific domain : https://privatebin.lebeaunuage.net/?b2f8a40089bcda17#ApJj3nqjZrHpzJmdaBfTPumnGbYgq73Yvm37BJL8WXud
[09:13:42] <Thomas> ejabberd's logs says it can't connect to the database. user and database are created and populated, port 3306 is open.
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[09:14:24] <prefiks> anyrhing in mysql logs?
[09:14:40] <prefiks> and what exact error ejabberd shows?\
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[09:15:07] <Thomas> mysql logs: Aborted connection 305 to db: 'unconnected' user: 'unauthenticated'
[09:15:41] <Thomas> ejabberd logs: 024-03-11 10:15:04.200202+01:00 [warning] <0.481.0>@ejabberd_sql:handle_reconnect/2:480 mysql connection failed: ** Reason: normal
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[09:16:41] <prefiks> could you change loglevel in ejabberd to debug and try again, it should show dump from mysql
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[09:17:03] <prefiks> possibly you have ip blocking or something like that in mysql
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[09:17:29] <prefiks> or mysql is configured for tls and ejabberd not (or the other way around)
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[09:20:06] <Thomas> OK, I'll check for mysql. I'm in debug loglevel but I don't see anything helpful.
"grep xmppexampleorg /var/log/ejabberd/ejabberd.log" returns nothing
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[09:20:40] <prefiks> is that warning everything that have mysql text in it?
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[09:23:47] <Thomas> it seems
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[09:25:52] <Thomas> By the way, I don't use ssl/tls for mysql.
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[09:29:08] <prefiks> so not a line logged with p1_mysql string? in debug loglevel we should at least write grettings that mysql returned to us
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[09:30:14] <prefiks> possibly connection was aborted before we even get those
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[09:33:08] <prefiks> are you able to connect to that mysql server with mysql cli client, like for example mysql --protocol=tcp --host my.server.address -u ejabberd_db_user_name  -p ejabberd_db_name
[09:33:19] <prefiks> it will ask for password
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[09:34:00] <Thomas> About p1_mysql_string, I just see "application: p1_mysql"
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[09:34:41] <prefiks> ok, it could be also that you were not in loglevel debeg, only in that p1_mysql those are logged
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[09:35:43] <Thomas> and yes, I can connect to mysql with tcp and localhost hostname
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[09:36:03] <Thomas> with the username/password database I specified for ejabberd
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[09:36:50] <Thomas> I'm in debug loglevel, maybe I don't know what correct logs I should check
[09:37:07] <prefiks> it should be in ejabberd.log
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[09:37:58] <prefiks> for example i have something like this: <0.454.0>@ejabberd_sql:log/3:1221 p1_mysql_conn: greeting version "8.0.36-0ubuntu0.22.04.1" (prot
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[09:42:02] <Thomas> 2024-03-11 10:40:44.566936+01:00 [debug] <0.355.0>@mod_muc:load_permanent_rooms/3:873 Loading rooms at conference.example.org                                                          
2024-03-11 10:40:44.576048+01:00 [debug] <0.44.0>@application_controller:info_started/2:2117 PROGRESS REPORT:                                                                                
    application: p1_mysql
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[09:42:10] <Thomas> That's all I have about p1_mysql
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[09:45:03] <prefiks> could you see if typing in `ejabberdctl debug` shell something like this: `ejabberd_sql:sql_query(<<"localhost">>, <<"select 1">>).`
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[09:45:15] <prefiks> shows any error and logs anything in ejabberd.log?
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[09:45:31] <prefiks> . at end of that sql_query is important.
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[09:45:48] <prefiks> you can close that shell after this with ctrl-c ctrl-c
[09:45:50] <Thomas> OK, I'll try. Any I still have "2024-03-11 10:44:01 11 [Warning] Aborted connection 11 to db: 'unconnected' user: 'unauthenticated' host: 'xxxxxxxxxxxx' (This connection closed normally without authentication)" in mysql logs
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[09:46:38] <prefiks> also could you show all sql_* options from your ejabberd.yml (skip password of course)
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[09:48:15] <Thomas> withe debug console: "Failed to start Erlang application 'odbc': no such file or directory: odbc.app. This usually means that ejabberd or Erlang was compiled/installed incorrectly."
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[09:48:53] <Thomas> Strange, I have the same ejabberd package on my production server with full mysql (auth and data) without issues
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[09:49:23] <Thomas> I prepare my full ejabberd.yml
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[09:56:55] <prefiks> ah, please try `ejabberd_sql:sql_query(<<"example.org">>, <<"select 1">>).` (just with correct hostname for you setup if it's not really example.org like in your config)
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[09:57:27] <Thomas> ok
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[10:04:22] <prefiks> and nothing in ejabberd.log?
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[10:05:33] <Thomas> {error,timeout} was in the debug console. I don't use docker or anything like that.
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[10:06:40] <Thomas> in ejabberd.log: 2024-03-11 11:06:13.825594+01:00 [debug] <0.480.0>@ejabberd_sql:connecting/3:398 Queuing pending request while connecting:
        {sql_cmd,{sql_query,<<"select 1">>},-576460667113}
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[10:10:03] <prefiks> could you try in debug shell this: `ejabberd_sql_sup:stop(<<"example.org">>), ejabberd_sql_sup:start(<<"example.org">>).` (with correct host name of course).
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[10:12:00] <Thomas> it returns: ok
[10:12:17] <prefiks> and could you check ejabberd.log after that
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[10:15:02] <prefiks> but nothing from p1_mysql?
[10:15:07] <prefiks> strange stuff
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[10:20:19] <Thomas> I'm done right now, I'll try later. Thanks a lot prefiks :)
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[10:20:58] <Thomas> Maybe I'll try directly on my production server where sql works fine. I don't have many users.
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[11:07:43] <kapad> `
- https://gitlab.com/libremonde-org/papers/research/privacy-matrix.org/-/blob/master/part2/README.md
- https://web.archive.org/web/20230606094615/https://matrix.org/~matthew/Response_to_-_Notes_on_privacy_and_data_collection_of_Matrix.pdf
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[11:36:16] <doesnm> i think it's not related if you using another homeserver
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[11:45:23] <kapad> doesnm: not an matrix related room, neither an expert, just found some old saves and stay read, and thought maybe useful for people interesting in
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[11:55:12] kapad i found the 2nd doc interesting cause describes some workflows, that may be useful to both developers and users
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> It's too bad there isn't a way to have an auth script that can just retrieve a SCRAM hash for a given user
Not all auth backends will be able to work with SCRAM hashes though.
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[12:52:11] <Kris> IMHO making progress with Oauth2 would be great. That can work with various plain author back ends and still offer good client security
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[13:02:07] <Holger> Is it easy to check for account existence with OAuth2?
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[13:05:12] <MattJ> https://hg.prosody.im/prosody-modules/file/tip/mod_auth_oauth_external/mod_auth_oauth_external.lua#l45 😢
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[13:09:04] <Holger> I think we have similar code 🎉
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[13:18:38] <Kris> Oauth2 login flow redirects to a first party login page where you can do what ever you want plain or not in the background.
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[17:45:51] <arcanicanis> > Not all auth backends will be able to work with SCRAM hashes though.
Correct, but I mean if it were offered as a configurable opt-in for an external script, or worth just named as a different method, e.g. `auth_method: external_scram`, especially if there's different inputs/outputs needed respective to SCRAM
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[17:47:07] <arcanicanis> Or yes, OAuth2/OIDC support would probably help cover those edge-cases
[17:47:19] <arcanicanis> Or yes, OAuth2/OIDC support would probably help cover those edge-cases, instead
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[22:29:09] <KotoAngel> https://jabber.angellive.ru:5443/upload/e89decf69904b0ad1dfe248964c0c32e4805d942/Jnz8aH1eLBJMqNxpIAO1mdTo3bXnPLUY0atpzcMi/Screenshot_20240312_012534.png
[22:29:11] <KotoAngel> Hello to everyone who knows that this is a rash of errors, I did not find anything understandable on the network. The installation is standard, the base is built-in.  "hostnamectl set-hostname example.com && curl -o /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ejabberd.list https://repo.process-one.net/ejabberd.list && curl -o /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ejabberd.gpg https://repo.process-one.net/ejabberd.gpg && apt update && apt upgrade && apt install ejabberd "
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