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ejabberd
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Sunday, March 10, 2024< ^ >
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[03:03:41] <☭Mike Yellow> > The changelog says 23.10 Add support to register nick in a room.
> What is it? The one column in MUC Affiliation list of Gajim's view?
Any expert?
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What should disable_sasl_mechanisms be set to in order to mandate scram+ ?
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[08:03:14] <Licaon_Kter> kaan: explain usecase? That was added for certain still broken clients. It's better to ask those projects to update....
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[08:18:35] <Licaon_Kter> Ok, so looks like it's a full ejabberd restart :(
Almost 24h on the clock
[08:18:59] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: do you know what Thomas did in https://social.tchncs.de/@trashserver/112064842613880632 ?
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[08:24:57] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Nope.
[08:25:31] <Licaon_Kter> Any magic command line to fine why it restarted?
[08:25:38] <Holger> Licaon_Kter:
> Ok, so looks like it's a full ejabberd restart :(
> Almost 24h on the clock
Are you using systemd?
[08:25:45] <Licaon_Kter> Debian...yes...
[08:26:33] <Holger> What does `journalctl -u ejabberd` say about the restart?
[08:26:51] <Holger> It should at least mention the exit status/signal.
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[08:29:50] <Licaon_Kter> Yes, indeed...brb
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[08:33:02] <Licaon_Kter> I've sent the screenshots directly to you
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[08:34:05] <Licaon_Kter> What I find interesting is that before the timeout, last logline is "[info] Outbound s2s connection started: ..." once with monal push servers and once for conference trashserver
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[08:39:05] <Licaon_Kter> Going back to the previous one, again, s2s to jabber.de
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[08:41:12] <Licaon_Kter> And before that  earlier with 12h or so, s2s to push monal
So it looks like starting s2s and...nothing 30s... then watchdog panics.... restarts server
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[08:43:37] <Licaon_Kter> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/4054 maybe... but this takes longer, trashserver restarts were taking a bit longer than in the past too, after the 24.02 update
[08:46:58] <Licaon_Kter> So I'll do this, https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/4058#issuecomment-1623070360
Until Holger, the watchdog master, fixes it :)
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[08:48:24] <Holger> 👍
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[08:48:31] <Licaon_Kter> Actually I've bumped it to 300, aka 5mins, because it sounds useful but 30sec might be too early
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[08:48:54] <Holger> Kinda interesting whether 300 makes any difference.
[08:48:58] <Licaon_Kter> Does a daemon-reload do it or do I need to restart_ejabberd for systemd to apply it?
[08:49:18] <Holger> You probably need to restart.
[08:50:18] <Licaon_Kter> Pfft, I'll leave it be, it will restart by itself at some point lol
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[08:51:07] <Licaon_Kter> The odd thing is that I never had this issue in the past year, where others were hitting it after a start even
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[08:56:57] <Holger> Yes, weird.
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[09:18:15] <mightyBroccoli> I noticed a random restart in the last 2 days too.
I even increased the logging to potentially catch the issue but to no avail.
I will also reconfigure the watchdog timeout now I guess
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[09:32:40] <Licaon_Kter> mightyBroccoli:
> What does `journalctl -u ejabberd` say about the restart?
>
> It should at least mention the exit status/signal.
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[09:43:06] <☭Mike Yellow> Does Ejabberd confuse Hat URI and Hat title somewhere?
The Command “List of users with hats” gets a weird form.
[09:43:22] <☭Mike Yellow> Does Ejabberd confuse Hat URI and Hat title somewhere?
The Command “List of users with hats” of Cheogram gets a weird form.
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[10:02:23] <mightyBroccoli> Licaon_Kter, nothing actually
```
│2024-03-08 19:14:10.788172+01:00 [info] <0.122.0>@ejabberd_config:load/1:82 Loading configuration from /etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.yml                                                                                                           │
│2024-03-08 19:14:11.010978+01:00 [notice] <0.122.0>@ejabberd_logger:set/1:386 Changing loglevel from 'info' to 'warning'
```
no crash dump or error in that area. I suspect the sevice was "just" restarted due to systemd
[10:03:43] <Licaon_Kter> But a restart should have more info...
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[10:07:25] <mightyBroccoli> Thats all I have, my prometheus metrics also show that to that time the total amount of muc connected sessions drops to 0 and then "reconnects" over time. And various in memory dbs within ejabberd are cleared which potentially also indicates a somewhat restart
[10:08:03] <mightyBroccoli> I increased the logging to info from warning to maybe get more info when it happens again.
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[10:50:52] <raver> Hi, somehow movim does not work with the latest ejabberd version (I disabled PLAIN authentication
[10:51:13] <raver> the error in ejabberd is this one:
```
2024-03-10 11:49:39.682632+01:00 [warning] <0.27427.0>@ejabberd_c2s:process_auth_result/3:288 (tls|<0.27427.0>) Failed c2s SCRAM-SHA-1 authentication from fd75:6272:7370:153::1: Response decoding failed
```
[10:51:51] <raver> anyone a tip what I can do?
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[10:54:30] <Licaon_Kter> raver: read 24.02 blog post
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[10:56:07] <raver> ok, so when I already use movim from master branch and still got these connection issues I have to add
`disable_sasl_scram_downgrade_protection: true` right?
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[10:56:16] <raver> thanks Licaon_Kter :)
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[11:27:38] <Licaon_Kter> Given the last line before the crash I guess it might be s2s related but dunno
[11:27:56] <Licaon_Kter> mightyBroccoli: ^^^
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[11:36:27] <Kris> raver: even the movim master branch does not have full support for that yet. But ed is working on it.
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[11:43:09] <kaan> > kaan: explain usecase? That was added for certain still broken clients. It's better to ask those projects to update....
To enforce channel binding
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[11:43:45] <raver> Kris: THX, great News😊✌️
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[11:44:42] <raver> > ok, so when I already use movim from master branch and still got these connection issues I have to add
> `disable_sasl_scram_downgrade_protection: true` right?
The Boolean switch works👌
[11:44:45] <Licaon_Kter> kaan: if this is about Converse.js or Movim, read 24.02 blod post on ejabberd.im
But this needs to fixed in those projects
[11:44:53] <Licaon_Kter> kaan: if this is about Converse.js or Movim, read 24.02 blog post on ejabberd.im
But this needs to fixed in those projects
[11:45:07] <Licaon_Kter> I've manually patched Converse.js and rebulit
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[11:45:17] <kaan> No?
[11:45:30] <Licaon_Kter> ? :)
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[11:45:45] <kaan> I want to force the use of scram-sha256/sha512-plus
[11:45:51] <kaan> Nothing else
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[11:47:49] <Licaon_Kter> Ah, you can, but if clients don't support it, users get left out. Look at connection_info about your users "resource" part to gather stats on what they use, then find out if those support it, etc
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[11:54:02] <kaan> But what do it set to?
Would this work?
- plain
- digest-md5
- scram-sha1
- scram-sha1-plus
- scram-sha256
- scram-sha512
?
Are there others?
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[12:20:22] <Licaon_Kter> If you want to enforce you put only the last one
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[16:26:24] <Holger> I think that was meant to be the `disable_sasl_mechanisms` list.
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[17:15:27] <rom1dep> hey there! Trying out the matrix stuff, am I holding it wrong?
[warning] (tls|<0.751.0>) Failed inbound s2s EXTERNAL authentication kde.org -> mydomain.tld (2a03:b0c0:3:e0::b5:2001): certificate has expired
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[17:23:27] <rom1dep> on another domain, it says:
`Connection failed: connection refused; bouncing for 169 seconds`
[17:24:00] <rom1dep> but all of those and my domains appear green on https://federationtester.matrix.org/
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[17:29:34] <rom1dep> interestingly, matrix.mydomain.tld doesn't discover anything, is that normal?
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[17:31:20] <Kris> port 8448 is open or reverse-proxied?
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[17:32:06] <Kris> ah, never mind me ;)
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[17:35:25] <rom1dep> open, yes, ejabberd listens on it
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[18:47:57] <rom1dep> > [critical] Failed to start ejabberd application: Invalid value of option modules->mod_matrix_gw->matrix_domain: Failed to reuse route 'mydomain.tld' because it's already registered on a virtual host
does the above imply that the correct way to have a matrix_domain identical to the xmpp one is to do the .well-known dance?
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[19:23:07] <Kris> isn't that generally the case with Matrix?
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[19:28:43] <rom1dep> I have no idea what's generally the case with Matrix, is the answer above `yes`, then?
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[19:55:09] <Kris> no expert on the topic
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[19:57:18] <Kris> but it is true. I guess "host" should work like a component and need a subdomain, but the "matrix_domain" parameter should not be conflicting like this
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[19:58:15] <Kris> even if you do the .well-known rerouting, ejabberd needs to know the actual MIXD domain no?
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[19:58:44] <Kris> but I am not even sure if incoming federation is supported at all right now.
[19:59:01] <Kris> but I am not even sure if incoming matrix federation is supported at all right now.
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[22:24:42] <Kris> anyone knows what might be going wrong with Monal and ejabberd 24.02?
[22:25:00] <Kris> I just upgraded and now a user is complaining that they can't auth
[22:25:34] <Kris> > it keeps saying "No supported auth mechanism found, disabling account!" when I try to re-enable.
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[22:26:23] <Kris> i have "disable_sasl_scram_downgrade_protection: true" set for other clients, so that shouldn't be the issue
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[22:34:57] <joeDoe> Does ejabberd limit the size of files that can be uploaded? I've looked in ejabberd.yml grepping for siz and max without finding anything. Or is this a client thing?
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[22:35:25] <joeDoe> the client in question is Monal
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[22:36:33] <Kris> Yes part of http_upload
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[22:36:43] <Kris> Default is 20mb I think
[22:36:51] <arcanicanis> I assume that'd be max_size for mod_http_upload: https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/modules/#mod-http-upload
[22:37:32] <Kris> joeDoe: can you connect with Monal to ejabberd 24.02?
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