Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, May 27, 2024< ^ >
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[00:27:31] <marvin-bot> https://status.conversations.im Conversations.im seems to be up again.
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[00:43:14] <Holger> This was no doubt my worst maintenance time ever.  Need a weekend now.
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[01:04:07] <moparisthebest> Good job! Now have one or more refreshing beverages 🍻
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[07:16:12] <Holger> moparisthebest: Thanks!
Fell asleep instead (was 3 a.m. over her).
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[07:19:54] <Licaon_Kter> But you got new hardware at 22 on a sunday?
[07:21:37] <Daniel> We got new hardware at 6pm on a Sunday.
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[07:22:07] <Daniel> But empty ssds to which Holger had to install a new OS etc
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[07:23:48] <Holger> Step #48 of 200 was setting up Samba as our remote management thingy expects to boot ISOs from a Windows share.
[07:25:07] <Daniel> Yes😞
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[07:26:30] <Daniel> I mean in an ideal world with 100 full time employees one would probably test disaster recovery. But when it's basically just Holger that's not something you can or want to plan for
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[07:28:36] <Daniel> Considering the stream of bad luck it's almost amazing that the outage didn't last for a third day...
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[07:31:55] <jonas’> and that you recovered without data loss.
[07:32:23] <Menel> Yes I would've expected to last until today afternoon. Didn't think you would take a night shift, wow!
[07:32:46] <jonas’> Daniel, Holger, #hugops again! Is there anything worth writing up in a post mortem article for others to learn from?
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[07:34:50] <Licaon_Kter> #nobodyexpectssamba
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[07:37:29] <Daniel> I haven't talked to Holger yet on what we should say publicly but it's just friends here, right.
I honestly don't think we did too much wrong.
I think my two personal take aways (haven't talked this through with Holger yet) are that we should have done more incremental updates over the years instead of trying two OS updates and one giant ejabberd updates at the same time.
And the other one is the idea of preloading down time information into the client (via pubsub or something) and only showing that if the client actually can't connect (to avoid sending unnecessary English language warnings to novice users only to nothing happening)
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[07:38:35] <Daniel> I mean it is somewhat of a cliché that same model SSD fail at the same time but to have that actually happen within hours of each other...
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[07:39:25] <disgyze> what was those SSDs?
[07:39:30] <disgyze> and how long they last
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[07:41:47] <Menel> This is probability statistics, you can't derive anything about that small sample size. Basically doesn't matter
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[07:42:39] <zoidberg> Murphy's law
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That's the #1 thing for sure.  We did incremental updates until 2019 and will return to that workflow now.  That will mostly avoid the issues we ran into on Saturday.  Probably not much we can do to avoid Sunday's.  Except not killing SSDs on a Sunday.
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[13:12:27] <moparisthebest> > Step #48 of 200 was setting up Samba as our remote management thingy expects to boot ISOs from a Windows share.
pain... and usually some ancient version with all the security turned off
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[13:17:00] <Holger> moparisthebest, you mean the Samba communication?  We had to tell Samba to support an old protocol version indeed.
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[15:19:06] <moparisthebest> Yep exactly that, fun times
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[15:20:50] <Holger> So if you're looking for a current grml or Debian ISO, just do `smbclient -N //messaging.one/iso`, it's that easy.
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[15:26:53] <Licaon_Kter> _I always do that_
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[23:50:44] <kapad> ` ls releases/;l;bcat ejabberdctl;ejabberdctl status;
```
ejabberd-23.10/  ejabberd-24.02/
total 52K
drwx------ 8 ejabberd ejabberd 4.0K 24/03/11,00:09:48 .backups/
drwx------ 6 ejabberd ejabberd 4.0K 24/05/26,00:42:49 conf/
drwx------ 3 ejabberd ejabberd 4.0K 24/05/28,02:43:10 database/
lrwxrwxrwx 1 ejabberd ejabberd   23 24/05/28,02:41:38 dist -> releases/ejabberd-24.02/
drwx------ 3 ejabberd ejabberd 4.0K 23/02/08,01:18:03 .ejabberd-modules/
drwx------ 7 ejabberd ejabberd 4.0K 24/03/16,11:13:30 home/
drwx------ 2 ejabberd ejabberd 4.0K 24/05/22,22:00:14 logs/
drwx------ 2 ejabberd ejabberd 4.0K 23/02/08,00:59:09 modules/
drwx------ 3 ejabberd ejabberd 4.0K 24/05/23,00:56:26 Notes/
lrwxrwxrwx 1 ejabberd ejabberd   21 24/05/28,02:36:54 releases -> /opt/ejabberd-release/
drwx------ 2 ejabberd ejabberd 4.0K 24/05/23,09:39:20 utils/
-rw------- 1 ejabberd ejabberd  886 23/02/08,00:33:44 captcha-env.log
-rwx------ 1 ejabberd ejabberd   63 24/05/28,02:44:03 ejabberdctl*
-rw------- 1 ejabberd ejabberd  532 23/03/16,02:26:55 ejabberd.service
-rw------- 1 ejabberd ejabberd   20 22/05/21,00:00:00 .erlang.cookie
───────┬───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
       │ File: ejabberdctl
───────┼───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
   1   │ #!/bin/sh
   2   │ exec /opt/ejabberd/dist/bin/ejabberdctl "$@"
   3   │ exit $?
───────┴───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
The node 'ejabberd@***.***' is started with status: started
ejabberd 24.2.0 is running in that node
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[23:55:10] <kapad> ^ nice: 1) extract deb 2) softlink 3) restart | Done. :)
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[23:57:45] <kapad> !!! >>>  **had already done all migrating steps, refer in release's documentation** <<<
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