ejabberd - Wednesday, October 9, 2024

[09:13:42] <martin> Is it possible to create an own auth plugin for ejabberd? Need to authenticate using a custom sql query, currently doing that with external program. But secretly it would be nicer to have that in a plugin :P

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[09:20:10] <Kris> You mean an erlang module? Not sure what the advantage of that over an regular auth script would be?

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[09:57:20] <martin> Yes, feels more robust for me, I already created a simple module for saving the user status in mysql, so our backend can easily check which devices are connected from which ip etc, now I work with a perl script for authentication. But doen’t look hard for me to put that also in an erlang module.

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[10:08:55] <Kris> The way ejabberd handles external auth scripts is already pretty robust. It spawns multiple processes and also auto recovers them if they fail.
[10:09:35] <Kris> I don't think you will gain much by switching to erlang
[10:10:02] <Kris> Btw, please do share your code if you can. Sounds pretty nice.

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[10:18:08] <martin> The user status module is something I created for work. So I have to check if I can share that code 😊
[10:18:24] <martin> Always good to share.

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[10:30:10] <Kris> 👍

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[10:43:14] <martin> Is there a centralized location where modules are shared?

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[10:53:04] <Kris> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd-contrib

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[13:03:03] <Holger> FWIW, an advantage of an internal authentication module is that it allows non-PLAIN logins.

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[14:17:11] <martin> Ah yes that is true. Did see that in the ext auth module that it always returns false

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[14:27:55] <Kris> a general sql auth module in erlang would be certainly interesting to have
[14:29:08] <Kris> if it supports bcrypt for hashing and custom SQL statements you can easily adapt to any database then I would probably use it instead of the external auth script I currently run

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[14:30:07] <martin> Ah yes, there is an sql auth module already, but then you need to follow the structure, I want to be able to put an sql query in config that is used so you can use your own structure

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[14:36:54] <martin> I will try to make one, lets see how far I can come 😄
[14:37:09] <martin> Since erlang is not my main language 😊
[14:37:42] <Kris> cool. good luck

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[19:04:36] <Holger> People coming from mainstream languages love Erlang for the awesome syntax.
[19:04:39] <Holger> Everyone.

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[21:59:05] <martin> So confusing 😄

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[22:04:46] <moparisthebest> Holger: on that note do you have opinions about elixir or https://gleam.run/ ?

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[22:08:37] <savagepeanut> I was just about to say that gleam is the hottest language on beam right now

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[22:30:32] <Holger> moparisthebest: I dunno. Elixir is Ruby syntax plus one-and-a half real feature additions compared to Erlang. For me personally that's not worth the ecosystem split, then again Elixir certainly attracts more devs, maybe that's good in the end. It's like a half-compatible JSON-based variant of XMPP with two additional XEPs, or so 😃

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[22:34:04] <moparisthebest> that's an analogy I can understand and now I dislike it too thanks 😁

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[22:35:12] <moparisthebest> you describe erlang vs elixir like I used to describe Java vs kotlin until I gave up on that whole ecosystem hehe

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[22:36:26] <Holger> Gleam is cool, I mean everyone wants static typing. But so far it's more of a toy language compared to Erlang/Elixir. You can't really do everything with Gleam you can do with the others (partly due to how static typing restricts things), and I think the use cases they have in mind may be different anyway.
But Gleam code plays nicely with Erlang, that's not necessarily true for Elixir.

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[22:36:58] <Holger> > you describe erlang vs elixir like I used to describe Java vs kotlin until I gave up on that whole ecosystem hehe
Heh yeah kinda comparable I guess.

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