ejabberd - Thursday, October 10, 2024

[09:46:29] <martin> I did see there is also a http auth module, good example for me to build a custom sql auth module 😊
[09:46:40] <martin> Also I did take a look in the other auth modules of course 😛

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[09:48:01] <neox> Hello there people.
I read in a blog post[1] that a XMPP client can join a Matrix room with ejabberd Matrix gateway. Is there any pointer/documentation on how to achieve that?
[1]: https://www.process-one.net/blog/matrix-gateway-setup-with-ejabberd/

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[09:55:08] <Kris> The official documentation has some basic info.

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[09:56:12] <Kris> But it seems more like a barely functional proof of concept at this point and the Process One has been very tight lipped about it here.

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[09:56:26] <Kris> But it seems more like a barely functional proof of concept at this point and Process One has been very tight lipped about it here.

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[09:56:28] <neox> Hm okay

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[09:57:11] <Kris> Slidge has a functional Matrix gateway

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[09:57:31] <neox> I might look at that then

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[11:19:18] <mikelum> Hi everyone, I want to run ejabberd with an Nginx reverse proxy and reverse proxy all the secure ports used by ejabberd. I’m running ejabberd using Docker and using Nginx for the reverse proxy. I also want to enable calls on ejabberd. Is there a tutorial available that I can read for this setup?

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[11:22:13] <martin> Xmpp does by default not run over http I think? Or you need to communicate fully over websockets?

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[11:26:26] <mikelum> I don’t know much about how it works. My main goal is to secure the communications with Nginx and run ejabberd in a container. Honestly, I’ve read a lot online, but the more I read, the more confused I become

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[11:27:36] <savagepeanut> I don't know what security benefits you think you get putting nginx in front of ejabberd honestly

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[11:28:53] <savagepeanut> The main use for nginx is if you have multiple services running on the system, like a website and also ejabberd http file upload. If it's only ejabberd nginx is not necessary and only adds more moving parts

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[11:29:12] <mikelum> I'm using containers to manage my services, and I'm using Nginx for reverse proxying. I want to set this up in the same way alongside the others

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[11:30:49] <mikelum> i’m not sure which important ports I need to reverse proxy with Nginx to the ejabberd container, and I also don’t know what URLs I should handle in the Nginx configuration

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[11:33:23] <savagepeanut> nginx can handle ports 80 and 443, everything else ejabberd should handle

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[11:34:15] <mikelum> Do you have a tutorial for doing this that I can read and follow?

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[11:34:40] <Guus> mikelum, I think what people here are trying to get at: generally, XMPP traffic should not be _reverse proxied_, which is a practice that mostly applies to web traffic. You should expose the relevant XMPP network ports in a different way.

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[11:35:04] <savagepeanut> https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-set-up-ejabberd-video-voice-calling/
Here is a guide for audio video

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[11:35:35] <savagepeanut> I don't have a guide for nginx

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[11:36:43] <Guus> I'm not an expert in setting things up in containers, but I do wonder if exposing XMPP traffic from a container to the outside world needs to go through nginx at all.

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[11:37:26] <savagepeanut> It does not, except for it sounds like they have other web services running. http file upload will need to be proxied

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[11:38:14] <savagepeanut> The tricky thing is making sure ejabberd can still get certificates
[11:38:27] <Guus> sure, but mikelum indicated that they're confused by all the reading up that they did. I wanted to give a baseline first. Lets worry about the outliers later.

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[11:52:42] <savagepeanut> Oh, and something else to note with audio/video is you probably want to run the ejabberd container in network_mode: host

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[14:14:35] <mikel> Thank you all for your help. I was able to run it successfully.
I just don't understand one thing:
STUN/TURN don't have encryption.
So, if they're active and a connection is made from the clients, no encryption will happen, if I’ve understood correctly.
Now I want to know what the solution is to ensure that voice and video calls are also encrypted.

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[14:15:34] <Licaon_Kter> mikel: encryption is a client feature

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[14:15:58] <Licaon_Kter> STUN in just for IP info
TURN streams whatever the client sends

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[14:22:40] <savagepeanut> What Licaon said. The encryption is between clients, the server only helps negotiate the connection.

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[14:34:55] <mikel> > mikel: encryption is a client feature
Could you please explain more about how the client encrypts voice and video calls

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[14:37:07] <Licaon_Kter> mikel: read your client manual?

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[14:38:32] <savagepeanut> They send each other the keys to encrypt with. They may also verify those keys with OMEMO, depending on the client

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[14:39:38] <mikel> > mikel: read your client manual?
No and I use Dino and conversion
Please if it possible send a link
[14:39:47] <mikel> > mikel: read your client manual?
No and I use Dino and conversion
Please if it possible send link
[14:40:16] <savagepeanut> Both of those will encrypt calls automatically then. I'm not sure what else you want

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[14:42:50] <zoidberg> mikel: the call is encrypted using DTLS IIRC, jusr visit your clients webpage for more info.

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[14:52:59] <zoidberg> You will also need DTLS otherwise your call will be rejected.
Usually Conversations tries to put human readable text in the termination reasons. So if your call fails make sure to check those out. As far as the UI is concerned Conversations will display 'Unable to connect call' on network errors and 'application error' when something else goes wrong or the session got terminated. Usually this means the implementation are incompatible (again; check those <text>…</text> in the reason element. (Also the reason itself might be a hint; like getting security-error when DTLS is not sent.)

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[14:53:30] <zoidberg> Got this from Conversations documentation 👆👆

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[14:57:14] <Holger> mikel,
> Please if it possible send link
https://webrtc-security.github.io

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[15:02:05] <savagepeanut> https://gist.github.com/iNPUTmice/a28c438d9bbf3f4a3d4c663ffaa224d9

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[15:02:31] <savagepeanut> This describes the OMEMO verification I mentioned https://gist.github.com/iNPUTmice/aa4fc0aeea6ce5fb0e0fe04baca842cd

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