ejabberd - Thursday, April 17, 2025

[00:13:21] <Kris> both. it is a hybrid IRC network with matrix and xmpp access
[00:13:48] <Kris> ok I tried summarizing the issue here: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/4372

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[00:15:24] <Kris> its late here, so I will give it a rest for today. but would be nice if someone could confirm that there is an issue with multiple vhosts

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[00:15:55] <Kris> in general I wonder a bit how routing with multiple domains for the matrix gateway will work

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[00:17:21] <Kris> I guess if each has their own key it should somehow sort itself out in the backend despite all comming in through the same http endpoint? Or maybe you need to open multiple different ports for each domain?

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[06:44:10] <Mickaël> > iirc slidge supports matrix, and synapse is only heavy when youre joining public rooms (something i understand ejabberd matrix support cant do)
Ejabberd can let you join Matrix public chatroom for the three latest Matrix protocole version. We are now working on supporting older version of the group protocole.

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[07:08:44] <marc0s> hi, following up on my question yesterday, I'm trying to hook on `join_room` and then call `mod_muc_admin:subscribe_room/4`. The hook runs but it throws an `{error, "Conference room does not exist"}`, which is weird because calling the ejabberdctl command works. Even more, I checked that the pid returned by `get_room_pid_validate/4` is actually a pid, so the error seem to come from `mod_muc_room:subscribe/4` itself. Why would `p1_fsm:sync_send_all_state_event/2` throw if the pid (seems to) exists? Any guidance to debug this further? thanks! :)

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[08:02:56] <prefiks> marc0s: if ejabberdctl works, but manually calling doesn't, my guess would be that you passing wrong arguments, maybe in wrong order? ejabberdctl essentially also calls mod_muc_admin:subscribe_room, just doing parsing arguments first

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[08:10:27] <marc0s> prefiks, that's what's bothering me... I'm right now printing the arguments out and I couldn't spot the difference... I put this dirty io:format:
```
subscribe(Pid, JID, Nick, Nodes) ->
io:format("\nmarc0s: subscribe pid ~~p jid ~~p nick ~~ts nodes ~~p" , [Pid, JID, Nick, Nodes]),
```
And the only difference I see when running my code from ejabberdctl is that the pid differs in the leading number (from my code starts with `0` and from ejabberdctl with some `11187`, as I'm not yet using http for this ejabberdctl so a new beam is spawned). Apart from that, I can see no difference: https://dpaste.com/93CHWSQ6S

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[08:13:20] <prefiks> are you calling ejabberd_muc_admin:subscribe_room or are you calling mod_muc_room:subscribe() ?

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[08:14:09] <prefiks> i mean mod_muc_admin
[08:14:10] <marc0s> muc_admin's

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[08:14:26] <marc0s> so I don't need to deal with resolving the pid myself, basically

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[08:18:34] <marc0s> ```
{error, Reason} ->
throw({error, binary_to_list(Reason)})
```
this is the clause throwing at `mod_muc_admin`, after calling `mod_muc_room:subscribe`

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[08:26:37] <prefiks> could you see what you get when calling catch p1_fsm:sync_send_all_state_event(mod_muc_admin:get_room_pid(<<"d-a4vdz-0n4dnvj6g4maqyz-mzhq">>, <<"conference.quobis">>), get_info).
[08:26:47] <prefiks> from debug console, or your code?
[08:27:06] <prefiks> ah, wait you call that from join_room hook?
[08:27:07] <marc0s> sure

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[08:27:44] <marc0s> ```
(ejabberd@localhost)1> p1_fsm:sync_send_all_state_event(mod_muc_admin:get_room_pid(<<"d-a4vdz-0n4dnvj6g4maqyz-mzhq">>, <<"conference.quobis">>), get_info).
#{occupants_number => 1}
```

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[08:28:06] <prefiks> ok, then it fails because your hook is called from room process

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[08:29:03] <prefiks> and that call you executed works by sending message to room process and waits for response

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[08:30:14] <marc0s> so, if get_room_pid(x, z) == self(), p1_fsm:sync_send_all_state_event cannot be called?
[08:30:24] <prefiks> and since your code is execting, there is nothing that can process it

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[08:33:02] <prefiks> easiest way would be probably spawning new process that calls that function,

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[08:34:07] <prefiks> spawn(fun() -> mod_admin_muc:... end)

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[08:36:41] <marc0s> ok... I'm still trying to understand why it fails 😅 why the room process doesn't get the message in its `receive` block? is that the reason that nothing can process it?

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[08:40:01] <prefiks> muc room process calls your join_room hook, your hooks calls function that sends message to that same process and waits for response, but process will handle next messages (like your message for subscribing user) only after hooks finish executing

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[08:40:49] <prefiks> so you get deadlock
[08:41:19] <marc0s> ah! got it!
[08:41:37] <marc0s> btw, spawning it worked flawlessly :)

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[08:42:23] <marc0s> thank you very much

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[12:56:41] <rom1dep> another neat blogpost about the Matrix gateway, but unfortunately even more logs cluttered with errors and even one crash 🫣

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[12:58:12] <Kris> rom1dep: are you on a multi-vhost setup?
[12:58:25] <Kris> I suspect it is broken on those
[12:58:31] <rom1dep> nope

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[12:58:41] <Kris> Hmm 🤔

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[13:03:51] <rom1dep> I got one weird crash about:
```
[error] <0.536.0>@gen_server:error_info/8:1391 ** Generic server <0.536.0> terminating
** Last message in was {tcp_closed,#Port<0.23>}
** When Server state == {state,#Port<0.23>,gen_tcp,<0.535.0>,<<>>,true}
** Reason for termination ==
** tcp_close
```
with lots of stuff there prefixed with pg_ , I wonder if something is wrong with my db schema? Can I test that?
Otherwise, it's a bag of either of those 3 errors, essentially:
```
[info] <0.863.0>@mod_matrix_gw_room:request_room_state/6:2112 failed request_room_state: {error,
                            {invalid_signature,
[info] <0.844.0>@mod_matrix_gw_room:handle_event/4:564 failed resolve_auth_store_event: {error,
                                  {missed_prev_event
[info] <0.844.0>@mod_matrix_gw_room:handle_event/4:564 failed resolve_auth_store_event: {error,
                                  {missed_state_map
```

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[14:02:27] <qbit> can debug be enabled for just a specific module? :D

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[14:07:04] qbit is trying to debug the matrix gw stuff

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[14:08:22] <qbit> log_modules_fully ooo

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[14:17:40] <qbit> ya, seems no matter what I do - matrix messages only come in via a DM
[14:17:57] <qbit> messages originating from a matrix room -> dm from each user that is in the chat

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[14:18:29] <jjj333_p (any pronouns)> > ya, seems no matter what I do - matrix messages only come in via a DM
i remember that being mentioned as a limitation

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[14:20:00] <qbit> based off the vid shared yesterday and this: https://www.process-one.net/blog/hello-from-the-other-side-matrix-xmpp-via-ejabberd-25-03/ I don't think it's a limitation anymore

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[14:20:24] <qbit> although, maybe I am not understanding matrix_id_as_jid ? and that's what it does?

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[14:26:26] <Kris> > although, maybe I am not understanding matrix_id_as_jid ? and that's what it does?
I find that very confusingly named, but setting that to true disables the automatic fallback to matrix when trying to add contacts via regular JIDs

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[14:27:38] <Kris> So then you can't just use a someone@example.com to contact @someone:matrix.org but have to explicitly use the gateway syntax.

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[14:27:57] <Kris> So then you can't just use a someone@example.com to contact @someone:example.com but have to explicitly use the gateway syntax.

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[14:28:45] <Kris> The most confusing thing about it is that setting it to true disables the feature

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[14:29:02] <Kris> No idea what devevelopers where thinking.
[14:29:46] <qbit> so if i have `matrix_id_as_jid = true` then I will be able to send a message to qbit@tapenet.org and have it go to @qbit:tapenet.org, right?

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[14:30:10] <Kris> No, you have to set it to false to do that afaik

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[14:30:35] <qbit> hm

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[14:31:17] <qbit> i have it set to true atm and I am able to send to `qbit@tapenet.org`

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[14:31:47] <Kris> Maybe the docu is wrong 🤷

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[14:32:06] <qbit> my parsing of the doc leads me to think that's the intendend behavior

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[14:32:39] <Kris> It would make **much** more sense if it was like that, but all the examples and the docu say that setting it to true disables that.

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[14:33:03] <qbit> > If set to true, all packets failing to be delivered via an XMPP server-to-server connection will then be routed to the Matrix gateway by translating a Jabber ID user@matrixdomain.tld to a Matrix user identifier @user:matrixdomain.tld.

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[14:33:23] <Kris> Huh, so maybe they updated the docu?
[14:33:48] <qbit> entry says "improved in 25.03" :D

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[14:33:54] <Kris> Ok i guess they fixed that

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[14:34:59] <qbit> "disable_enable_some_feature = 1" <-- the best kind of bad

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[14:46:26] <Kris> > "disable_enable_some_feature = 1" <-- the best kind of bad
😂
[14:46:27] <qbit> effin.. I am not running 25.03 even..

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[14:47:04] <Kris> Might be just a documentation issue

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[14:47:39] <qbit> i mean, I shouldn't expect a feature in 25.03 to work magically in 24.12.. /me upgrades
[14:47:49] <qbit> can't believe i didn't notice that sooner..
[14:47:57] <Kris> Ah ok 😅

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[14:48:18] <Kris> There is 24.04 now

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[14:48:52] <qbit> right, I have tested it a bit: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/399298 - hopefully that lands here pretty soon

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[14:49:19] <qbit> anyway, server is about to upgrade - see yall on the otherside :D
[14:49:20] <Adrien> Ah, yes iirc some stuff changed in 25.03 about mod_matrix_gw, so yeah that may explain stuff

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[14:49:29] <qbit> (hopefully :D)
[14:49:33] <Adrien> Good luck qbit

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[14:53:05] <rom1dep> > although, maybe I am not understanding matrix_id_as_jid ? and that's what it does?
personally, I don't see that as anything but an anti-pattern, it just makes it more difficult to tell what the underlying protocol is. Eventually the admin might change this flag at one point and clients break as a result, who knows?

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[14:55:12] <Kris> Its a nice convenience feature I think 🤷

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[14:55:49] <jjj333_p (any pronouns)> i do wonder how it would handle someone where their matrix and xmpp server domain and localpart are the same, how it would handle that

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[14:56:02] <jjj333_p (any pronouns)> my english is so good right now, 5am talking

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[14:58:19] <qbit> nice, now adding the xmpp user to a matrix room invites them and creates a room xmpp side!
[14:58:21] <qbit> (as expected)
[14:58:40] <qbit> but.... gajim and conversations both seem to not handle sending messages to the room :D

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[15:05:22] <Kris> > i do wonder how it would handle someone where their matrix and xmpp server domain and localpart are the same, how it would handle that
It tries xmpp first.

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[15:08:57] <meson> > gajim crashes
are you going to report it? :)
[15:09:22] <qbit> i was on an old version
[15:09:31] <qbit> latest crashes.. differently :D

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[15:09:52] <qbit> I will report if I get some useful info

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[15:10:50] <qbit> Apr 17 09:10:30 h ejabberdctl[613444]: 2025-04-17 09:10:30.828436-06:00 [warning] Failed to establish outbound s2s connection segfault.rodeo -> tapenet.org: Stream closed by peer: host-unknown; bouncing for 49 seconds
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[15:12:54] <qbit> oh wow, a xmpp -> matrix room message went through.. but gajim doesn't show the message

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[15:14:58] <Licaon_Kter> It can't believe it either :))
[15:15:54] <qbit> heh

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