ejabberd - Thursday, July 3, 2025

[10:41:07] <Holger> One issue is that I didn't adjust `mod_http_upload_quota` yet. I need someone who tells me what exactly it's supposed to do in the future. Preferably within the next 90 days, before we start expiring avatars on conversations.im 😂️

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[10:42:18] <Holger> Methuselah, if they build from source they probably just need those URLs and a big fat warning that expiry isn't actually addressed yet.
[10:42:24] <Methuselah> > Methuselah, if they build from source they probably just need those URLs and a big fat warning that expiry isn't actually addressed yet.
Ohh okay.

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[10:42:43] <Holger> Methuselah, if they need additional instructions the instruction would be to just wait a little.

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[10:43:11] <Methuselah> Holger: oh okay. So currently it's wip still
[10:43:24] <Holger> The XEP update isn't even accepted yet.

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[10:43:30] <Holger> So yes.

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[10:43:56] <Methuselah> > The XEP update isn't even accepted yet.
i think it's the most simplest way to implement this

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[10:44:09] <Holger> You could subscribe <https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1445> if you're interested in the progress.
[10:44:19] <Holger> I won't push the changes upstream before that's merged.
[10:44:35] <Methuselah> Holger: thank you surely

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[10:45:23] <Holger> > > The XEP update isn't even accepted yet.
> i think it's the most simplest way to implement this
Yes I'm fine with the spec (was kinda involved) the hard part is the admin side of thing.
[10:45:26] <Holger> > > The XEP update isn't even accepted yet.
> i think it's the most simplest way to implement this
Yes I'm fine with the spec (was kinda involved) the hard part is the admin side of things.
[10:46:05] <Holger> There's not a single standard mechanism for expiring uploads. Admins may use mod_http_upload_quota or a custom cron job or whatever.
[10:46:18] <Holger> Uploads may be handled by mod_http_upload or Nginx or whatever.

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[10:46:33] <Holger> No how to make sure avatars won't be expired.
[10:46:44] <Holger> Now how to make sure avatars won't be expired.

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[10:47:23] <Holger> As I said I'm not even sure how exactly `mod_http_upload_quota` is supposed to behave.

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[10:47:55] <Holger> So I'm all open for concrete suggestions 🙂

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[10:49:12] <Holger> > Now how to make sure avatars won't be expired.
Well the actual question is how to make sure avatars won't be expired based on timestamp while still optionally applying some quota.

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[10:50:14] <Holger> And getting things right when admins update ejabberd with their existing (mod_http_upload_quota) configuration.

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[12:09:08] <Methuselah> >> i think it's the most simplest way to implement this
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> Yes I'm fine with the spec (was kinda involved) the hard part is the admin side of things.
I know the server admin is here reading the texts as well.

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[12:09:35] <Methuselah> Just a good looking profile requires so much work ! Damn

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[12:10:39] <Daniel> It took us 10 years

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[12:15:02] <Holger> Looking forward to finally see high-resolution pics of you guys.
[12:15:08] <Holger> Esp. Licaon_Kter.

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[12:17:36] <Licaon_Kter> Just call me if you wanna see me, lol

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[12:18:16] <Holger> I think we actually had an A/V call some years ago?
[12:18:30] <Holger> But no idea how badly you aged since then!

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[12:19:10] <Licaon_Kter> Less that you :shrug:

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[12:20:35] <Holger> Probably true.

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[19:51:57] <Masked Witch> Hello! What XEP does ejabberd follow, if any, for pushing changes from pep nodes to clients?
I'm having an issue with Movim with Prosody. From my observations and testing, I think that prosody does not push pep interactions to movim (for notifying about likes, comments, etc). So movim only knows about the interactions if
1. The person is using the same movim instance that the other person used to interact with the the post, since movim polls the node after the interaction is sent
2. If the person manually navigates to the post, which causes movim to poll the node
Ejabberd doesn't seem to have that problem, so I think it's automatically pushing changes to movim, unless I am completely misunderstanding how it works

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[20:03:57] <Masked Witch> Someone helped elsewhere, looks like it should be part of the PEP standard

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[20:05:32] <Licaon_Kter> Masked Witch: Spill it all, what, vhere, who...

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[20:06:56] <Masked Witch> I am trying to troubleshoot this issue: https://github.com/movim/movim/issues/1442
I think I have what I need now, thank you anyway! I'm going to go ahead and open as issue with prosody's tracker

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[20:24:10] <Holger> Masked Witch: "Automatically pushing" events to subscribed entities is what PEP/PubSub is all about, and usually Prosody will do just that. So you'll probably have to provide details to make it possible to track down what's going. Like, did Movim actually subscribe the node, is the subscription still there, …

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[20:24:28] <Holger> Masked Witch: "Automatically pushing" events to subscribed entities is what PEP/PubSub is all about, and usually Prosody will do just that. So you'll probably have to provide details to make it possible to track down what's going on. Like, did Movim actually subscribe the node, is the subscription still there, …

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