ejabberd - Friday, July 4, 2025

[15:09:01] <bobcar> hey all, i been strungling with stun/turn in ejabberd, my ubuntu server is behind opnsense. i can get calls from one client to another using different ips of vpn but then it just says could not connect call. i am using conversation app. i have tried using coturn also but facing same problem again. also i can receive call from one client to another without setting up stun/turn or not even opening the ports. i have tried everything there is.

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[15:14:46] <zoidberg> So
[15:15:08] <zoidberg> did you set the turn ip on the listener?

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[15:15:35] <zoidberg> If you can show us your listen config for the turn on the ejabberd.yml
[15:15:50] <zoidberg> + you meantioned VPN right?

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[15:16:30] <zoidberg> So is one of the clients trying to make the call using the VPN (that is on the same server running ejabberd?)

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[15:17:16] <zoidberg> If so, check your logs, see there is a bunch of attempts at _STUN_ only when the calls failed.

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[15:18:18] <zoidberg> if so, set the TURN listener to bind to the interface that is really the one providing the internet(therefore not allowing the listener to listen to all interfaces).

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[15:20:42] <zoidberg> to really check if your turn has ever worked you can ``` grep Relayed /opt/ejabberd/log/ejabberd.log```

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[15:21:59] <zoidberg> if you find calls that were relayed using a really high number of packets then its a good signal, then maybe adjusting the listener will help you.

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[15:32:37] <bobcar> both android conversation apps are on vpn and i dont see any Relayed in ejabberd.log . and i did set turn_ip : my public ip , both clients using same server but with different public ip.
[15:33:09] <bobcar> i set min port range and max port range also

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[15:34:05] <zoidberg> Both clients use VPNs on the same server?
[15:34:07] <bobcar> if second client is getting the call that means service is discoverable

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[15:34:26] <zoidberg> Its complicated.

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[15:34:50] <zoidberg> Most calls connect via STUN

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[15:35:14] <bobcar> am using vpn on both clients to give them seperate public ips so i can test my server like real.use
[15:35:17] <zoidberg> so if your TURN is not working you will connect most calls
[15:35:25] <zoidberg> But some really need TURN
[15:35:49] <bobcar> if i use coturn do i need to open tcp port also in its config?
[15:35:49] <zoidberg> You sure neither of your VPNs is leaking?
[15:35:55] <zoidberg> No
[15:35:58] <bobcar> vpn are good
[15:36:18] <zoidberg> tcp is not needed on turn server
[15:36:39] <bobcar> so i use 3478 port for udp and does the same port works for turn also?

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[15:36:45] <zoidberg> Yes
[15:36:52] <zoidberg> But is your range open?
[15:37:03] <bobcar> trickle ice test confirms that stun is working
[15:37:10] <bobcar> but why turn is not working then

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[15:39:16] <zoidberg> well without really seeing your configs, all i can do is try to lead you to the right way of configuring(which i think i already did) other than that i need to waterboard you until you show anything to work with.

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[15:40:35] <bobcar> when using coturn, do i still need to add listen part in ejbberd.yml?

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[15:40:45] <zoidberg> No

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[15:40:55] <zoidberg> But then you need to set the mod stun disco
[15:41:08] <zoidberg> did you do that?
[15:41:22] <zoidberg> And coturn will also need the external IP.
[15:41:24] <bobcar> yes i did that
[15:41:43] <bobcar> i just passed borh stun and turn test on trickle ice tes

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[15:41:51] <bobcar> both*
[15:41:59] <zoidberg> That test is not really accurate.

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[15:42:05] <zoidberg> Its like the covid test

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[15:42:18] <bobcar> bahahahah
[15:42:59] <bobcar> but that atleast tells me that turn/stun is receiving packets

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[15:46:19] <zoidberg> one question
[15:46:37] <zoidberg> did you comment out the turn listen on ejabberd?
[15:46:55] <zoidberg> Because if you coturn and ejabberd listening to the same 3478

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[15:47:40] <zoidberg> Because if you are using coturn and ejabberd listening to the same 3478, then you dont really know which one is the one working.

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[15:50:33] <zoidberg> and this command will just work if you are using the built in eturnal. Otherwise you need to check coturn logs.
> to really check if your turn has ever worked you can ``` grep Relayed /opt/ejabberd/log/ejabberd.log```

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[15:52:36] <bobcar> i commented out the listen part, i tried everything to get ejabberd stun/turn working but failed
[15:52:41] <bobcar> now am trying coturn

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[15:53:02] <zoidberg> 👍

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[15:53:29] <zoidberg> You really need the external IP, + open range too all UDP
[15:53:41] <bobcar> do i need to mention port , transport,restricted in mod_stun_disco when using coturn with ejabberd?

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[15:53:55] <zoidberg> Yes
[15:54:04] <zoidberg> Port 3478 in your case
[15:54:16] <zoidberg> you also need to set your password

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[15:54:31] <zoidberg> Turn doesnt work without password IIRC

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[15:54:42] <zoidberg> Transport UDP

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[15:55:11] <zoidberg> The IP on mod stun disco
[15:55:19] <zoidberg> Is your _external_ IP

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[15:56:28] <zoidberg> Whenever you make it work, change the 3478 to something else
[15:56:39] <zoidberg> Or get used to uninvited guests

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[15:59:54] <bobcar> i will set static-auth-secret in coturn config

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[16:00:44] <zoidberg> this one is the ephemeral?

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[16:01:00] <zoidberg> I think it its correct.
[16:01:05] <bobcar> yeah

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[16:02:24] <zoidberg> Enable turn

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[16:02:38] <zoidberg> Set the external relay ip

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[16:05:45] <bobcar> i have set host : mydomain.com in mod_stun_disco

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[16:05:58] <zoidberg> Works too

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[16:06:14] <bobcar> and wym enable turn?
[16:06:24] <zoidberg> Wym?
[16:06:37] <bobcar> what u mean enable turn
[16:07:02] <zoidberg> Coturn have a config fpr enabling turn right?

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[16:07:21] <zoidberg> IIRC it used to have one.
[16:07:28] <bobcar> yes but it enables tcp for it

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[16:07:46] <zoidberg> an?

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[16:09:10] <bobcar> i have set
server-name=turn.example.org
realm=turn.example.org
listening-ip=your_public_ip
listening-port=3478
min-port=10000
max-port=20000
# The "verbose" option is useful for debugging issues
verbose
[16:09:34] <zoidberg> Ok, well give it a test shot.
[16:09:48] <zoidberg> Its been a long time since i last used coturn.
[16:09:59] <zoidberg> but maybe it will work.
[16:10:09] <zoidberg> Do a test call, check coturn logs

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[16:10:30] <zoidberg> Dont forget to reload config on ejabberd
[16:10:42] <bobcar> let me try this

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[16:11:33] <zoidberg> The range 10000 to 20000 needs to be open too.

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[16:11:40] <zoidberg> You can make it shorter range

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[16:11:47] <zoidberg> 19000 to 20000
[16:11:51] <zoidberg> Or whatever
[16:12:17] <bobcar> i have 30000-40000 enabled
[16:12:41] <zoidberg> But your example config there shows 10 to 20

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[16:13:01] <bobcar> i changed it
[16:13:07] <bobcar> sorry about that
[16:13:12] <zoidberg> do i need to grab my bucket and towel?

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[16:14:03] <bobcar> no sir

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[16:19:29] <zoidberg> There is one thing missing *n your config
[16:19:34] <zoidberg> The relay ip

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[16:19:52] <zoidberg> And the listen IP doesnt necessary mean the external IP

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[16:20:25] <zoidberg> Listen IP can be internal, relay IP needs to be external.

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[16:26:58] <bobcar> set the relay ip also nothing worked
[16:27:21] <zoidberg> 🪣👕
[16:27:28] <zoidberg> Sorry no towel emoji.
[16:27:33] <bobcar> the thing is ejabberd calling is acting the same way when nothing is settupd

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[16:28:02] <zoidberg> Ejabberd logs will show the mod stun disco giving the credentials to the clients
[16:28:13] <zoidberg> The rest you will find in coturn logs
[16:28:19] <zoidberg> If there is nothing on coturn logs
[16:28:33] <bobcar> when ejabberd stun/turn is commented out and no coturn is installed , same thing happend , client get the call but could not connect call error
[16:28:47] <zoidberg> Either your routing is not right(port closed or whatever) or your mod stun disco is wrong.

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[16:29:23] <bobcar> hmmm

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[16:35:31] <bobcar> in ejabberd logs am getting not announcing features to domain.com

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[16:35:49] <bobcar> ita by mod_stun_disco

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[16:36:34] <bobcar> and then it says wont perform external service discovery for user@domain.com
[16:37:02] <bobcar> but in starting it does say using configured secret

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[16:38:07] <bobcar> running hook disco_local_features and then not announcing features to my domain

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[16:41:37] <zoidberg> maybe just show the logs, and clean what you really need

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[16:42:29] <zoidberg> but looks like you are in the right place.

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[16:52:44] <bobcar> let me send the logs here

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[16:53:16] <zoidberg> If too much pastebin will probably be better
[16:53:33] <zoidberg> Otherwise if a couple of lines should be fine.

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[17:20:12] <bobcar> this is when i use coturn not ejabberd built in stun/coturn

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[17:20:33] <bobcar> and do i really need srv records for coturn to work?

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[17:21:49] <zoidberg> > and do i really need srv records for coturn to work?
no

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[17:23:12] <zoidberg> Never seen such error before, do you have a weird acl config maybe blocking something?

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[17:24:09] <zoidberg> Well from my side you can getting nothing. But maybe other users or the devs will know what this mean.

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[17:24:34] <zoidberg> Well from my side you can get nothing about this. But maybe other users or the devs will know what this mean.

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[17:45:27] <bobcar> > Never seen such error before, do you have a weird acl config maybe blocking something?
i didnt change anything in acl other than adding user admin

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[17:45:59] <bobcar> and i know the problem is ejabberd because coturn installed seprately didnt work either

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[17:46:12] <bobcar> but icl test reaches coturn server fine

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[17:48:35] <zoidberg> Well today is friday so, you know. Most of these guys will probably be here monday all hangover.

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[17:49:59] <zoidberg> I am just kidding of course, but yes, weekend, and everyone have their lives. But lurke around, you will probably get help here.

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[17:51:28] <Holger> Phew. If either Coturn or the internal TURN server don't work then this is due to the setup, not due to Coturn or the internal server not working. So we should check the setup rather than switching to another random software.

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[17:51:56] <Holger> I'm mostly saying that because that backlog is too much for me on a Friday afternoon, sorry 😛

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[17:53:57] <Holger> I'd suggest starting with the example config, <https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/ejabberd.yml.example>, and just specifying `turn_ipv4_address` and yes maybe the relay port range. Make sure UDP port 5478 plus the UDP port range are open in the firewall. Try a call. `grep -i` the logs for `turn` and show us the output.

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[17:54:19] <Holger> If you did that already, sorry, what was the output?

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[17:55:19] <bobcar> i am turning back to built-in turn server and will do what you just said. will let you know what happen next. thankyou for your help
[17:55:34] <bobcar> > I am just kidding of course, but yes, weekend, and everyone have their lives. But lurke around, you will probably get help here.
thankyou for your help brother

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[17:59:44] <bobcar> > I'd suggest starting with the example config, <https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/ejabberd.yml.example>, and just specifying `turn_ipv4_address` and yes maybe the relay port range. Make sure UDP port 5478 plus the UDP port range are open in the firewall. Try a call. `grep -i` the logs for `turn` and show us the output.
in original config mod_stun_disco: {}
shall i leave it like that?

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[18:03:30] <Holger> Yes.

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[18:04:05] <Holger> `turn_ipv4_address` is the only thing you strictly need to specify.

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[18:04:35] <Holger> If you want to reduce the size of the UDP relay port range, that as well.
[18:05:17] <Holger> If those ports are accessible by the clients, things will then work under 'normal' conditions.
[18:05:38] <Holger> If there's some network specialities, we'll have to look.

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[18:07:01] <bobcar> port: 3478 ip: "::" transport: udp module: ejabberd_stun use_turn: true turn_min_port: 30000 turn_max_port: 40000 ## The server's public IPv4 address: turn_ipv4_address: "ip"
[18:07:16] <bobcar> this is what i have in .yml

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[18:08:33] <Holger> And port 3478 + 30000-40000 should be reachable on the `turn_ipv4_address` by clients, right?

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[18:09:02] <Holger> (I'd suggest using some other random port rather than 3478 BTW, just because this is a protocol where security by obscurity can make some sense.)

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[18:12:50] <bobcar> > And port 3478 + 30000-40000 should be reachable on the `turn_ipv4_address` by clients, right?
port range 30000-40000 is opened in firewall and i changed port to 5478 just like in original config

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[18:13:05] <Holger> Both UDP, right?

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[18:13:33] <bobcar> i am using opnsense , so i choose tcp/udp both
[18:13:37] <Holger> Ok.
[18:13:58] <bobcar> and in ufw i have 5478/udp allowed
[18:14:16] <Holger> Ah two packet filters in a row?
[18:14:53] <bobcar> what you mean by two packet filter?
[18:14:54] <Holger> Asking the obvious but 30000-40000/udp is open in ufw as well?
[18:15:10] <bobcar> yes it is open

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[18:15:11] <Holger> I was assuming opensense + ufw to be two seperate things.
[18:15:14] <Holger> Ok.
[18:15:32] <bobcar> > I was assuming opensense + ufw to be two seperate things.
yes seperate and both are allowed the given ports
[18:15:33] <Holger> So if you attempt an A/V call what do you end up with in the logs?

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[18:15:52] <Holger> (With log level being at least `info`.)
[18:16:04] <bobcar> should i grep something specific in logs?
[18:16:13] <Holger> Yes `grep -i turn ejabberd.log`.

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[18:17:04] <Holger> Or `grep -Ei 'stun|turn' ejabberd.log`.
[18:17:18] <Holger> A successful TURN session would yield three lines I think, I'm interested in how far you get.

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[18:19:46] <bobcar> > Yes `grep -i turn ejabberd.log`.
this does yield any lg
[18:19:51] <bobcar> log*
[18:19:54] <Holger> Also, I'd be interested in the output you get from trying <https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/peerconnection/trickle-ice/> with `turn:example.com:5478?transport=udp` (replace example.com with your host name) and a random username and password.

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[18:20:02] <Holger> bobcar, nothing at all?
[18:20:08] <bobcar> nothing at all
[18:20:24] <bobcar> > Or `grep -Ei 'stun|turn' ejabberd.log`.
this yields this log
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[18:22:44] <Holger> Do you have an `acl` rule called `local` in your configuration?
[18:23:07] <Holger> The example config has this:
```
acl:
local:
user_regexp: ""
```
[18:23:10] <Holger> Do you have the same?

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[18:23:34] <Holger> If you don't (or if it looks different), could you add/adjust it, reload the config and retry?

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[18:24:06] <bobcar> i have
acl:
admin:
user: "myadmin@mydomain.com"

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[18:24:26] <Holger> Then please add that rule.
[18:24:51] <bobcar> before i make changes , where should i add my admin account then?
[18:24:57] <Holger> Keep it.
[18:25:10] <bobcar> you mean add another acl?
[18:25:19] <Holger> ```
acl:
  admin:
    user: "myadmin@mydomain.com"
  local:
    user_regexp: ""
```

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[18:27:02] <bobcar> oh my god
[18:27:02] <Holger> mod_stun_disco only talks to client that are on an `acl`. Which `acl` can be configured as a mod_stun_disco option. The default is to use the `local` ACL. Which isn't actually built-in but we use that as a sane default in many places, i.e. by default we basically assume you configured it that way (it's in all example configs, IIRC there was a comment to not touch it unless you know what you're doing in the past, seems that's gone).
[18:27:07] <bobcar> that worked

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[18:27:31] <bobcar> i been trying this for 2 days straight without any break

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[18:27:38] <Holger> Yup.  The "Not announcing feature" log message indicated the issue.  So your debug output helped.
[18:27:54] <bobcar> and this was all i needed
[18:28:02] <Holger> > i been trying this for 2 days straight without any break
Sorry to hear.  But without that ACL you woud've stumbled over other issues as well.
[18:28:07] <bobcar> thankyou thankyou so much sir
[18:28:11] <Holger> > i been trying this for 2 days straight without any break
Sorry to hear.  But without that ACL you would've stumbled over other issues as well.

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[18:28:43] <bobcar> if you accept xmr please let me donate you something for your time
[18:28:54] <bobcar> you saved me
[18:28:59] <bobcar> thankyou so much
[18:29:19] <Holger> Welcome. This is obviously very hard to understand once you removed that rule. Seems almost nobody is doing that since I can't remember anyone running into it before 😀

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[18:29:37] <Holger> bobcar, no that's not necessary but thanks for the offer, appreciated.
[18:29:52] <bobcar> Holger: thankyou very much air
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[19:05:57] <bobcar> is there a way to not allow users to register but let existing ones change their passwords only?

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[19:07:54] <Holger> ```
modules:
mod_register:
access: none
```

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[19:11:39] <bobcar> i have ip_access: trusted_network and then access_rules: trusted_network: allow:all

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[19:11:47] <bobcar> do i need to make changes here too?

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[19:14:31] <Holger> Will be ignored for password changes. Those are assumed to be allowed if you have the module enabled.

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[19:15:34] <Holger> You might have to set `access_remove: none` though if you want to forbid account removal as well.

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[19:24:55] <bobcar> how to set rules for password i.e to include special chracter a digit and Capital letter

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[19:29:41] <Holger> There's only the `password_strength` option.
[19:29:48] <Holger> https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/modules/#mod_register

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[19:30:10] <Holger> For more specific requirements you'd need a custom module.

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[19:30:52] <Holger> Which reminds me that someone wanted to pay me for such a thing. So maybe we'll have something in the future.

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[19:34:19] <erebion> The unified push module I found a while ago has just been merged into ejabberd-contrib... :D https://github.com/processone/ejabberd-contrib/pull/363

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[19:48:54] <Kris> > The unified push module I found a while ago has just been merged into ejabberd-contrib... :D https://github.com/processone/ejabberd-contrib/pull/363
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[20:01:12] <bobcar> is there a way to deliver welcome_message when user login the very first time? i have disabled the registration but wants users to see the message for the very first time

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