ejabberd - Sunday, September 14, 2025

[06:47:48] <ray_cist> WTF Kaidan supports only OMEMO2? What if I wanna talk to literally everyone who uses OMEMO older ver? Kaidan is useless then even though it's cross-platform.

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[06:48:31] <ray_cist> I thought Kaidan was very cool as it was from KDE, but alas

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[06:49:05] <ray_cist> That said, is there a Windows client that supports video and voice calls?

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[06:49:23] <ray_cist> I couldn't find any on xmpp.org

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[12:55:05] <Kris> Kaidan is working on supporting the older version of Omemo as well
[12:55:46] <Kris> there is an unofficial Dino version for Windows that supports A/V calls afaik
[12:55:57] <coopr8> So I see Movim runs on Ejabberd, but it doesnt seem that Movim utilizes the matrix support ejabberd offers. What is a good client/server combo to try out the full set of ejabberd features including accessing both XMPP and Matrix chats?
[12:56:31] <Kris> the ejabberd matrix gateway works client independent
[12:56:53] <Kris> the only way to test it right now is to run your own ejabberd server
[12:57:43] <coopr8> Dang, seems like a pretty killer feature, shame no one is running a public server.
[12:57:47] <Kris> (and don't expect too much, the Matrix gateway is very WIP still)
[12:58:15] <Kris> it needs to mature a lot more before anyone will seriously consider running a public server with it
[12:59:46] <coopr8> That's fair. Honestly what I really want is for the Spaces XEP to see implementation in a way that enables XMPP to have equivalent features to Element regarding Groups. The recent Matrix security lapse doesnt encourage me to migrate that way, even though it is still essentially the default distributed option.
[13:00:32] <coopr8> But seeing the matrix support on EJabberd I figured it might be a midpoint until then

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[13:01:44] <coopr8> Thanks for the clarification

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[13:16:36] <Kris> the Spaces XEP just got a big overhaul and now doesn't require specific server side support anymore.
[13:16:45] <Kris> Movim will get support for it soon.

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[13:17:47] <Kris> I don't think the ejabberd gateway supports matrix spaces right now
[13:18:53] <Kris> and if Bifrost is anything to go by that can be hightly confusing as the room that hosts the space will work fine to join and you will see the space participants, but you can't actualy write anything in it, so it apprears broken.

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[16:56:57] <coopr8> Hopefully the new XEP for Spaces will make such integrations much more manageable

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[17:00:03] <coopr8> Hmmm, no new version on XEP-0503 yet, still 0.1.0 from March, do you have access to a new draft somewhere @kris?

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[17:09:00] <Kris> coopr8, https://nicoco.fr/xep-0503.html

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[19:01:22] <ray_cist> > Kaidan is working on supporting the older version of Omemo as well
wow
[19:01:52] <ray_cist> > there is an unofficial Dino version for Windows that supports A/V calls afaik
Can you link their website or official repository?

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[19:05:28] <Kris> as I said, unofficial

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[20:39:43] <mm> > Dang, seems like a pretty killer feature, shame no one is running a public server.
Matrix is very CPU hungry, even matrix gateway on my ejabberd eats 5% CPU, when ejabberd alone use 0.1%

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[20:43:44] <mm> When I discover that my SysLoad 5% is because matrix gateway, I turn it off.

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[20:52:26] <mm> > I hear Monal is the best one.
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[21:08:57] <mm> And also try slidge matrix gateway, and got similar CPU usage on it. So I understand that matrix protocol is defective by design and make a do not use it.

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[21:09:17] <mm> And also try slidge matrix gateway, and got similar CPU usage on it. So I understand that matrix protocol is defective by design and make a decision do not use it.
[21:09:20] <Kris> has anyone tried converting exsiting uploads to work with this? https://github.com/processone/ejabberd-contrib/tree/master/mod_s3_upload

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[21:14:49] <Kris> zeank, this is unrelated to your NLnet grant, right? https://github.com/mikebirdgeneau/ejabberd-custom

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[23:26:13] <Neustradamus> ray_cist: About Dino for Windows, there is a ticket: https://github.com/dino/dino/issues/309
There are two forks about Windows:
- https://github.com/mxlgv/dino/releases
- https://github.com/LAGonauta/dino/releases

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