ejabberd - Tuesday, April 21, 2026

[04:30:20] <psjb> i just had 26.04 break with sqlite. didnt see anything in git for it tho
default is set for ejabberd.db but i guess the update expects it to be migrated to %HOST%.sqlite?
https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/toplevel/#sql_database

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[04:42:40] <psjb> i just had 26.04 break with sqlite. didnt see anything in git for it tho
default is set for ejabberd.db but i guess the update expects it to be migrated to @HOST@.sqlite?
https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/toplevel/#sql_database

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[06:24:56] <zoidberg> Should normal users(like me) mess with "The option max_stanza_elements sets a limit on the maximum number of XML elements that an individual stanza can contain. By default, this option is set to infinity."
IDK just hearing "infinity" triggers something bad in my mind. and if so, what would be an appropriate value?

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[06:31:14] <raver> > Should normal users(like me) mess with "The option max_stanza_elements sets a limit on the maximum number of XML elements that an individual stanza can contain. By default, this option is set to infinity."
> IDK just hearing "infinity" triggers something bad in my mind. and if so, what would be an appropriate value?
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[07:15:32] <zoidberg> ++ on the blog post it says that for this the default comes safe already, but on the docs " max_stanza_size
pos_integer()
This option specifies an approximate maximum size in bytes of XML stanzas. Approximate, because it is calculated with the precision of one block of read data. For example 65536.
The default value is infinity. Recommended values are 65536 for c2s connections and 131072 for s2s connections. Please notice that the s2s max stanza size must be always much higher than c2s limit.
Change this value with extreme care as it can cause unwanted disconnect if set too low.
See also pre_auth_max_stanza_size for value used by streams before authentication."

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[07:17:31] <zoidberg> ah disregard, the "safe" was for the other 2 options.

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[07:18:57] <prefiks> before user authenticates limits are set 8192 bytes or 32 elements, i observed max for this stage 2k and 12 elements, so i think those limits should be safe for all deployment

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[07:21:15] <prefiks> post auth default config has max size to 256k, and doesn't set elements count, setting those is more tricky as what's acceptable depends on what your clients are doing, i guess we could set max elements count to 1k or maybe 512, but i seen some wierd stuff that people like to put here

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[07:46:00] <zeank> Developers, how do we feel about adding `recon` as a dev dependency (to rebar.config)?

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[07:50:50] <erebion_muc> My MAM issue concerns only one local MUC. All others are fine. MAM is enabled for that chat. What else could be wrong there?

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[08:42:09] <zeank> Adding a start page to mod_invites where you can generate „Account Creation“ invites in case your client doesn’t support that: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/pull/4567

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[08:59:01] <admin_cbt> A user on my server is also having a login logout cycling problem:
2026-04-21 01:53:23.063142-07:00 [info] <0.24186.0>@ejabberd_c2s:process_auth_result/3:304 (tls|<0.24186.0>) Accepted c2s SCRAM-SHA-512-PLUS authentication for redacted@chatterboxtown.us by sql backend from ::ffff:207.204.228.130
2026-04-21 01:53:23.063653-07:00 [info] <0.24186.0>@ejabberd_c2s:bind/2:542 (tls|<0.24186.0>) Opened c2s session for redacted@chatterboxtown.us/Cheogram.BOSefSuE0o
2026-04-21 01:53:32.122905-07:00 [info] <0.24186.0>@ejabberd_c2s:process_terminated/2:327 (tls|<0.24186.0>) Closing c2s session for redacted@chatterboxtown.us/Cheogram.BOSefSuE0o: internal server error

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[09:00:51] <prefiks> admin_cbt: could you for a sec change loglevel to debug, and see if there are more details about what's happening here?

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[09:09:18] <admin_cbt> This is loglevel: 5
2026-04-21 02:06:19.862785-07:00 [info] <0.27118.0>@ejabberd_c2s:process_auth_result/3:304 (tls|<0.27118.0>) Accepted c2s SCRAM-SHA-512-PLUS authentication for redacted@chatterboxtown.us by sql backend from ::ffff:207.204.228.130
2026-04-21 02:06:19.863106-07:00 [info] <0.27118.0>@ejabberd_c2s:bind/2:542 (tls|<0.27118.0>) Opened c2s session for redacted@chatterboxtown.us/Cheogram.BOSefSuE0o
2026-04-21 02:06:32.664186-07:00 [info] <0.27118.0>@ejabberd_c2s:process_terminated/2:327 (tls|<0.27118.0>) Closing c2s session for redacted@chatterboxtown.us/Cheogram.BOSefSuE0o: internal server error

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[09:11:46] <prefiks> and you have nothing in error.log?

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[09:17:32] <admin_cbt> This is the last chunk of error messages in the error.log, but it's not matching up with the even times
2026-04-21 00:22:55.906106-07:00 [error] <0.197.0> External eimp process (pid=1059712) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.906179-07:00 [error] <0.199.0> External eimp process (pid=1059713) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.911275-07:00 [error] <0.213.0> External eimp process (pid=1059720) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.911459-07:00 [error] <0.201.0> External eimp process (pid=1059714) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.911591-07:00 [error] <0.217.0> External eimp process (pid=1059722) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.911707-07:00 [error] <0.235.0> External eimp process (pid=1059731) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.911822-07:00 [error] <0.203.0> External eimp process (pid=1059715) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.911929-07:00 [error] <0.237.0> External eimp process (pid=1059732) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.912030-07:00 [error] <0.219.0> External eimp process (pid=1059723) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.912133-07:00 [error] <0.241.0> External eimp process (pid=1059734) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.912311-07:00 [error] <0.215.0> External eimp process (pid=1059721) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.914060-07:00 [error] <0.245.0> External eimp process (pid=1059736) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.914069-07:00 [error] <0.205.0> External eimp process (pid=1059716) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.915838-07:00 [error] <0.307.0> External eimp process (pid=1059767) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.916233-07:00 [error] <0.333.0> External eimp process (pid=1059780) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.915232-07:00 [error] <0.257.0> External eimp process (pid=1059742) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.915244-07:00 [error] <0.305.0> External eimp process (pid=1059766) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.914455-07:00 [error] <0.299.0> External eimp process (pid=1059763) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.915260-07:00 [error] <0.249.0> External eimp process (pid=1059738) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.915309-07:00 [error] <0.287.0> External eimp process (pid=1059757) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.915342-07:00 [error] <0.233.0> External eimp process (pid=1059730) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.915377-07:00 [error] <0.325.0> External eimp process (pid=1059776) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.915409-07:00 [error] <0.255.0> External eimp process (pid=1059741) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.915441-07:00 [error] <0.239.0> External eimp process (pid=1059733) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.915474-07:00 [error] <0.263.0> External eimp process (pid=1059745) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.915514-07:00 [error] <0.291.0> External eimp process (pid=1059759) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
2026-04-21 00:22:55.915540-07:00 [error] <0.243.0> External eimp process (pid=1059735) has terminated unexpectedly, restarting in a few seconds
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[09:18:00] <Adrien> > ejabberd@conference.process-one.net/Licaon_Kter wrote:
> Congrats on .04
🎉
[09:18:12] <admin_cbt> It's not matching with the event times though

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[09:21:50] <prefiks> "internal server error" is just generic error when session is terminated without reason set, doesn't seems that there is crash in that process, since i think it should log something, so something is just triggering it to stop.

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[09:23:17] <prefiks> strange that debug loglevel didn't log anything with [debug]

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[09:23:40] <admin_cbt> let me try again..

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[09:35:08] <admin_cbt> I not getting the behavior...the account is stable ONLINE status now.
[09:35:52] <admin_cbt> I'll report if I catch it again.
[09:36:28] <prefiks> sure

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[15:23:21] <Eddy> Could you please advise me on the correct approach to debug the following issue with a specific public room (support@chat.xmpp-providers.org). In the ejabberd logs I see:
```
2026-04-21 10:04:41.705443+03:00 [warning] <0.8956.0>@ejabberd_s2s_out:handle_auth_failure/3:236 (tls|<0.8956.0>) Failed outbound s2s EXTERNAL authentication chatrix.one -> xmpp-providers.org (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx): Authentication failed: Peer responded with error: unsupported certificate purpose (not-authorized)
2026-04-21 10:04:41.705631+03:00 [warning] <0.8956.0>@ejabberd_s2s_out:process_auth_result/2:137 Failed to establish outbound s2s connection chatrix.one -> xmpp-providers.org: authentication failed; bouncing for 37 seconds
```
Conversations App shows:
"Remote server timeout TRY AGAIN"
At the same time, communication with other public rooms (like this one for example) runs smoothly, and the logs are clean.

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[15:27:47] <prefiks> so this is likelly due to change in let's encrypt issued certs, they no longer contain flag that tells it can be used for client authentication, and unless server to which you try to connect have patch that allow accepting certs like this, you will get this error. Ejabberd 25.07 and newer have code that does this, older version will have this issue (this can be also helped if server have dialback enabled)

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[17:26:54] <erebion_muc> Or... Is `archive` used for MAM?
[17:27:00] <zeank> Yes
[17:28:04] <erebion_muc> No messages are stored and returned when I close for example Dino, send a message in Gajim and then open Dino

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[17:29:28] <erebion_muc> MAM is enabled for those chats
[17:29:32] <erebion_muc> wtf

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[17:30:07] <zoidberg> update_sql: true
[17:30:28] <zoidberg> or something like that
[17:31:21] <zoidberg> update_sql_schema: true
[17:31:25] <zoidberg> On your config file

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[17:32:46] <zoidberg> I think it became default sometime along the way.

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[17:34:21] <erebion_muc> Yeah, I have that set

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[17:34:39] <erebion_muc> I'm wondering why messages do not show up in Dino or Conversations when it comes online

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[17:35:29] <zoidberg> On conversations

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[17:36:03] <zoidberg> 3 dots manage accounts, click on the acc on your server 3 dots again server info
[17:36:18] <zoidberg> Does it say MAM?

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[17:38:26] <erebion_muc> Yup

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[17:43:17] <stratself> > I'm wondering why messages do not show up in Dino or Conversations when it comes online
let it sync for a while ig

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[17:46:41] <erebion_muc> It was offline for 10 seconds, one new message, it has been online for half an hour, I doubt it'd need that long, I don't use a 300 Bd connection

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[18:04:55] <erebion_muc> MAM works for new MUCs, but after restarting ejabberd no messages show up that were sent when the client was offline

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[18:09:32] <zoidberg> check client logs too if there is nothing on your ejabberd side(assuming you already tried).

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[18:10:37] <zoidberg> I am using maria too, no issues here(at least that i know off, so far).

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[18:15:22] <erebion_muc> MariaDB [ejabberd]> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM archive WHERE kind = 'groupchat' AND bare_peer = 'yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu';
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| COUNT(*) |
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| 0 |
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1 row in set (6.306 sec)
MariaDB [ejabberd]>
[18:15:40] <erebion_muc> If that query is correct (I suck at SQL), then there are no messages saved

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[18:30:57] <erebion_muc> I've now set db_type: mnesia for mod_mam and it just works... But Mnesia is not recommend for MAM :/

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[18:32:31] <erebion_muc> Perhaps something did not go the way it should have when I switched from Mnesia to SQL almost a year ago..?
[18:32:54] <erebion_muc> I have no idea what I did back then, but perhaps I did something wrong and now MAM does not wirk?
[18:32:57] <erebion_muc> *work

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[18:42:33] <erebion_muc> Perhaps I need to redo the migration, but just for MAM?
[18:42:37] <erebion_muc> If so, how?

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[19:00:27] <erebion_muc> cannot find any docs on this

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[19:29:17] <stratself> erebion_muc: anything in debug logs?

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[20:19:56] <erebion_muc> > erebion_muc: anything in debug logs?
Too much to know what might be useful :/

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[20:20:34] <erebion_muc> Will probably have to disable s2s temporarily to have less in the logs, but this also cuts me off from here
[20:21:00] <erebion_muc> Or is there any built-in way to only get errors for MUC and MAM related things?

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[20:21:32] <stratself> you know the `log_modules_fully` option right?

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[20:23:44] <stratself> also gimme your full mod_muc config

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[20:47:41] <erebion_muc> > you know the `log_modules_fully` option right?
Nope, will have to look at that

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[20:50:13] <erebion_muc> > also gimme your full mod_muc config
Here's the complete modules section: https://pad.erebion.eu/hedgedoc/ZiA9KBQ0S_yheYXzJBXSJw?view

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[20:51:26] <erebion_muc> If there's anything wrong in there, then I cannot find it... Guess it's time for someone else to look. You know, sometimes when you stare for too long you start missing obvious things...

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[20:53:25] <Neustradamus> Good job about ejabberd 26.04!

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[20:58:49] <erebion_muc> Can I somehow clear the MAM part of the SQL database? Perhaps there's something broken in there leading to issues?
[20:59:18] <erebion_muc> I really am just guessing, I have no idea what to do about the issue

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[21:05:20] <stratself> erebion_muc: try `assume_mam_usage: false`

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[21:06:07] <stratself> while using sql as the backend, that is

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[21:06:33] <stratself> and see if it works
[21:08:23] <erebion_muc> I already tried that, it does not

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[21:08:31] <erebion_muc> I will just try it again, just in case

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[21:17:31] <erebion_muc> Tried it again, does not help
[21:18:13] <stratself> smh
[21:18:23] <stratself> can i try joining a muc and see whats up
[21:18:36] <stratself> new MUCs are okay, but that specific one isnt?
[21:18:48] <erebion_muc> send me a JID and I'll invite you to my test muc
[21:19:25] <erebion_muc> > new MUCs are okay, but that specific one isnt?
I've now figured out it affects all MUCs, apparently messages were in RAM and it stopped working when I restarted ejabberd

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[21:20:28] <stratself> >> new MUCs are okay, but that specific one isnt?
> I've now figured out it affects all MUCs, apparently messages were in RAM and it stopped working when I restarted ejabberd
isnt that how mnesia work? idk if it saves to disk

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[21:46:03] <erebion_muc> Yes, it is a database

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[21:46:21] <erebion_muc> Apparently one of the original devs has been quoted saying:
„The original name was Amnesia. One of our bosses didn’t like the name. He said, ‘You can’t possibly call it Amnesia–you can’t have a database that forgets things!’. So we dropped the A and the name stuck.“

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[22:01:53] <Holger> Mnesia can be configured to store data persistently, which is what ejabberd does when it's used as the (persistent) data storage. The issue is just that Mnesia's primary use case is not persisting non-trivial amounts of data. Mnesia is Redis, not SQL. Using it for large MAM archives won't work; and using it for small

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[22:02:15] <Holger> MAM archives may break as well.

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[22:04:27] <Holger> erebion_muc: As for your issue, any `[error]`s in your ejabberd.log?
[22:06:02] <Holger> erebion_muc: And is it a MUC-only issue? `select count(*) from archive` returns a non-zero number?

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[22:12:08] <erebion_muc> Here's my config: https://pad.erebion.eu/hedgedoc/ZiA9KBQ0S_yheYXzJBXSJw?view
[22:12:20] <erebion_muc> Holger: yes, only MUC
[22:12:32] <erebion_muc> Currently debugging with stratself in a MUC
[22:12:48] <erebion_muc> I can invite you if you want to have a look at the test MUC
[22:12:58] <erebion_muc> We're currently thinking it might be a bug
[22:13:32] <Holger> Joining won't help. I'd be interested in whether there's any `[error]`s in your ejabberd.log.
[22:13:40] <erebion_muc> No, none

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[22:14:27] <Holger> The only thing I'd double-check is that MAM is actually enabled in the MUC options (e.g., Conversations would show you).

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[22:14:42] <erebion_muc> SQL queries return no MAM messages for the MUC, MAM is enabled. It works fine with Mnesia, but not SQL

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[22:15:10] <stratself> > The only thing I'd double-check is that MAM is actually enabled in the MUC options (e.g., Conversations would show you).
it is enabled: XEP-0313: MAM available as shown in Conversations

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[22:15:41] <erebion_muc> I know that as soon as I set mod_mam to use mnesia, it will work just fine

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[22:16:40] <stratself> seems to be a mysql driver problem ? running sqlite just fine here

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[22:21:27] <Holger> Then I'd suggest enabling `ejabberdctl set-loglevel debug` after all, and then send a message with a unique string to the room (`foo-bar-baz`).
[22:21:49] <Holger> Then open your ejabberd.log in e.g. `less` and go "/foo-bar-baz".

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[22:23:19] <Holger> Well it's of course not a problem all MySQL users are affected of, else this room would be spammed with that issue. I understood that Mnesia works. However, that doesn't help with understanding why MySQL doesn't.

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[22:26:10] <erebion_muc> messages are in the DB, just not returned

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[22:26:40] <Holger> Oh so MySQL _does_ show them, now? COUNT is no longer zero?
[22:27:15] <Holger> Moving debug target then :D
[22:27:22] Holger throws his previous message away.
[22:27:37] <erebion_muc> We're learning SQL syntax as we go along :p

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[22:28:04] <stratself> it seems like mysql does store the messages (as shown with `SELECT xml FROM archive;` and verifying the content of the most recent ones)
[22:28:16] <Holger> Do you have Gajim? Or another client with an XML console?

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[22:28:26] <stratself> however, when issuing a MAM query, it does not work

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[22:28:38] <stratself> i am using gajim,
[22:28:40] <Holger> So you performed a query?

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[22:28:46] <Holger> I was going to suggest one.
[22:28:56] <Holger> What does "not work" mean? You get an error? Empty response?
[22:29:37] <stratself> empty response

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[22:31:31] <erebion_muc> 
<iq to="yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu" type="set" xmlns="jabber:client" id="93afdea4-85a1-4aae-b9af-6b5ccd5f4329">
  <query xmlns="urn:xmpp:mam:2 yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu" />
</iq>

<r xmlns="urn:xmpp:sm:3" />

<iq xmlns="jabber:client" xml:lang="en" to="erebion@erebion.eu/gajim.B2V5ANPR" from="yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu" type="error" id="93afdea4-85a1-4aae-b9af-6b5ccd5f4329">
  <query xmlns="urn:xmpp:mam:2 yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu" />
  <error type="cancel">
    <service-unavailable xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas" />
    <text xml:lang="en" xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas">The feature requested is not supported by the conference</text>
  </error>
</iq>
Am I doing this right?
[22:32:09] <erebion_muc> >The feature requested is not supported by the conference
Why, though?

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[22:32:25] <erebion_muc> It works fine with Mnesia, why would it not be supported with SQL?
[22:32:26] <erebion_muc> o.O

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[22:32:55] <erebion_muc> Or maybe my query is wrong

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[22:33:20] <stratself> here's a log from my side, attempting to MAM query the same MUC
```xml

<iq xmlns="jabber:client" to="testmuc@mucdomain.com" type="set" id="cc41a4e2-eb61-4704-9251-097c5f164777">
  <query xmlns="urn:xmpp:mam:2" queryid="51d3fd23-6b72-44a7-8a18-adfbac666222">
    <x xmlns="jabber:x:data" type="submit">
      <field type="hidden" var="FORM_TYPE">
        <value>urn:xmpp:mam:2</value>
      </field>
    </x>
    <set xmlns="http://jabber.org/protocol/rsm">
      <max>70</max>
      <after>1776808195075666</after>
    </set>
  </query>
</iq>
```
```xml
<iq xmlns="jabber:client" xml:lang="en-US" to="testaccount@mydomain.com/1180763038454973582511493" from="testmuc@mucdomain.com" type="result" id="cc41a4e2-eb61-4704-9251-097c5f164777">
  <fin xmlns="urn:xmpp:mam:2" complete="true">
    <set xmlns="http://jabber.org/protocol/rsm">
      <count>0</count>
    </set>
  </fin>
</iq>
```

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[22:33:40] <stratself> here's a log from my side, attempting to MAM query the same MUC
```xml

<iq xmlns="jabber:client" to="testmuc@mucdomain.com" type="set" id="cc41a4e2-eb61-4704-9251-097c5f164777">
  <query xmlns="urn:xmpp:mam:2" queryid="51d3fd23-6b72-44a7-8a18-adfbac666222">
    <x xmlns="jabber:x:data" type="submit">
      <field type="hidden" var="FORM_TYPE">
        <value>urn:xmpp:mam:2</value>
      </field>
    </x>
    <set xmlns="http://jabber.org/protocol/rsm">
      <max>70</max>
      <after>1776808195075666</after>
    </set>
  </query>
</iq>
```
```xml

<iq xmlns="jabber:client" xml:lang="en-US" to="testaccount@mydomain.com/1180763038454973582511493" from="testmuc@mucdomain.com" type="result" id="cc41a4e2-eb61-4704-9251-097c5f164777">
  <fin xmlns="urn:xmpp:mam:2" complete="true">
    <set xmlns="http://jabber.org/protocol/rsm">
      <count>0</count>
    </set>
  </fin>
</iq>
```

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[22:36:04] <eltheanine_> > i am using gajim,
I have a mam/carbons issue with gajim on prosody i havent bothered following up. May or may not be related. Mucs seem mostly ok, but individual chats not.

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[22:37:32] <erebion_muc> ```

<iq to="yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu" type="set" xmlns="jabber:client" id="3f6678ab-1e2e-4cf3-af20-23c5aee42ca3">
  <query xmlns="urn:xmpp:mam:2">
    <x xmlns="jabber:x:data" type="submit">
      <field type="hidden" var="FORM_TYPE">
        <value>urn:xmpp:mam:2</value>
      </field>
    </x>
    <set xmlns="http://jabber.org/protocol/rsm">
      <max>70</max>
      <after>1776808195075666</after>
    </set>
  </query>
</iq>

<r xmlns="urn:xmpp:sm:3" />

<iq xmlns="jabber:client" xml:lang="en" to="erebion@erebion.eu/gajim.B2V5ANPR" from="yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu" type="result" id="3f6678ab-1e2e-4cf3-af20-23c5aee42ca3">
  <fin complete="true" xmlns="urn:xmpp:mam:2">
    <set xmlns="http://jabber.org/protocol/rsm">
      <count>0</count>
    </set>
  </fin>
</iq>
```
Guess my query was wrong then
[22:38:39] <erebion_muc> ```

<iq to="yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu" type="set" xmlns="jabber:client" id="9e953dfa-2323-49c9-957e-49d18b1b2d58">
  <query xmlns="urn:xmpp:mam:2">
    <x xmlns="jabber:x:data" type="submit">
      <field type="hidden" var="FORM_TYPE">
        <value>urn:xmpp:mam:2</value>
      </field>
    </x>
  </query>
</iq>

<r xmlns="urn:xmpp:sm:3" />

<a h="501" xmlns="urn:xmpp:sm:3" />

<iq xmlns="jabber:client" xml:lang="en" to="erebion@erebion.eu/gajim.B2V5ANPR" from="yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu" type="result" id="9e953dfa-2323-49c9-957e-49d18b1b2d58">
  <fin complete="true" xmlns="urn:xmpp:mam:2">
    <set xmlns="http://jabber.org/protocol/rsm">
      <count>0</count>
    </set>
  </fin>
</iq>
```
[22:38:55] <stratself> your schema is still the singlehost one right?
[22:39:04] <erebion_muc> No, multihost
[22:39:16] <stratself> hmm, alright

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[22:39:44] <Holger> ```
<iq type='set' id='mam-query-1' to='yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu'><query xmlns='urn:xmpp:mam:2'/></iq>
```

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[22:40:03] <Holger> That would be the query, but it's a members-only room it seems, so I can't check myself.
[22:40:17] <erebion_muc> >new_sql_schema: true
>
>This option was renamed to sql_schema_multihost in ejabberd 25.10. Please update your configuration to use the new option name
I guess I need to update it then...
[22:40:33] <erebion_muc> > That would be the query, but it's a members-only room it seems, so I can't check myself.
can invite you
[22:40:36] <Holger> The old name should still work.
[22:40:49] <Holger> Or just make the room public, if it's a room for public testing.
[22:40:55] <erebion_muc> can do that as well

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[22:41:31] <erebion_muc> I think it's public now
[22:41:35] <Holger> Single vs. multihost would yield [error]s.
[22:41:59] <Holger> Yes I now see that I get no results.
[22:42:47] <erebion_muc> > Single vs. multihost would yield [error]s.
I've changed it...
[22:43:38] <Holger> So this returns some number larger than zero: `select count(*) from archive where username='yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu'`?

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[22:44:03] <erebion_muc> > I've changed it...
does not seem to change the result

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[22:44:35] <erebion_muc> ```
MariaDB [ejabberd]> select count(*) from archive where username='yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu';
+----------+
| count(*) |
+----------+
| 284 |
+----------+
1 row in set (5.525 sec)
MariaDB [ejabberd]>
```
[22:44:37] <Holger> Yes, the old name still works, we try hard to remain compatible (and error out with a useful message on startup otherwise).

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[22:45:04] <erebion_muc> Now 285
[22:45:07] <erebion_muc> It's saving stuff

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[22:48:16] <Holger> Ok. Then I'd emit another such query from the Gajim console with ejabberd's debug logging enabled and a unique `id='UNIQ-42'`.

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[22:48:28] <Holger> Then open the ejabberd.log and search for UNIQ-42.

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[22:48:35] <erebion_muc> just a moment...
[22:49:59] <Holger> I've now issued one with `holgers-query`. So you can just search for that string.
[22:50:04] <Holger> (If debug logging was enabled.)

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[22:51:23] <erebion_muc> ```
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]: 2026-04-21 22:50:26.454 [debug] Route:
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]: #iq{
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:  id = <<"blablabla1337bla42">>,type = set,lang = <<"en">>,
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:  from =
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:   #jid{
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:    user = <<"erebion">>,server = <<"erebion.eu">>,
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:    resource = <<"gajim.B2V5ANPR">>,luser = <<"erebion">>,
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:    lserver = <<"erebion.eu">>,lresource = <<"gajim.B2V5ANPR">>},
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:  to =
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:   #jid{
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:    user = <<"yamusuda">>,server = <<"tardis.erebion.eu">>,resource = <<>>,
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:    luser = <<"yamusuda">>,lserver = <<"tardis.erebion.eu">>,lresource = <<>>},
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:  sub_els =
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:   [#xmlel{
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:     name = <<"query">>,
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:     attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:mam:2">>}],
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:     children =
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:      [#xmlel{
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:        name = <<"x">>,
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:        attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"jabber:x:data">>},{<<"type">>,<<"submit">>}],
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:        children =
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:         [#xmlel{
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:           name = <<"field">>,
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:           attrs = [{<<"type">>,<<"hidden">>},{<<"var">>,<<"FORM_TYPE">>}],
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:           children =
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:            [#xmlel{
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:              name = <<"value">>,attrs = [],
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:              children = [{xmlcdata,<<"urn:xmpp:mam:2">>}]}]}]},
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:       #xmlel{
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:        name = <<"set">>,
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:        attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"http://jabber.org/protocol/rsm">>}],
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:        children = [{xmlcdata,<<"\n    ">>}]}]}],
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:  meta = #{ip => {10754,12544,16391,56321,18084,63510,53245,52756}}}
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]: 2026-04-21 22:50:26.455 [debug] Routing to MUC room #PID<0.726.0>:
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]: #iq{
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:  id = <<"blablabla1337bla42">>,type = set,lang = <<"en">>,
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:  from =
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:   #jid{
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:    user = <<"erebion">>,server = <<"erebion.eu">>,
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:    resource = <<"gajim.B2V5ANPR">>,luser = <<"erebion">>,
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:    lserver = <<"erebion.eu">>,lresource = <<"gajim.B2V5ANPR">>},
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:  to =
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:   #jid{
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:    user = <<"yamusuda">>,server = <<"tardis.erebion.eu">>,resource = <<>>,
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:    luser = <<"yamusuda">>,lserver = <<"tardis.erebion.eu">>,lresource = <<>>},
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:  sub_els =
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:   [#xmlel{
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:     name = <<"query">>,
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:     attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:mam:2">>}],
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:     children =
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:      [#xmlel{
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:        name = <<"x">>,
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:        attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"jabber:x:data">>},{<<"type">>,<<"submit">>}],
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:        children =
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:         [#xmlel{
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:           name = <<"field">>,
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:           attrs = [{<<"type">>,<<"hidden">>},{<<"var">>,<<"FORM_TYPE">>}],
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:           children =
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:            [#xmlel{
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:              name = <<"value">>,attrs = [],
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:              children = [{xmlcdata,<<"urn:xmpp:mam:2">>}]}]}]},
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:       #xmlel{
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:        name = <<"set">>,
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:        attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"http://jabber.org/protocol/rsm">>}],
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:        children = [{xmlcdata,<<"\n    ">>}]}]}],
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:  meta = #{ip => {10754,12544,16391,56321,18084,63510,53245,52756}}}
```
[22:51:36] <Holger> Once you found it: Search for "SQL: .*yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu".  And copy-paste the line.
[22:51:42] <erebion_muc> I've already had one with blablabla1337bla42 :D
[22:52:10] <Holger> Looks fine, I'm trying to get hold of the SQL query.

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[22:53:27] <erebion_muc> Apr 21 22:51:36 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]:                        data = <<"Once you found it: Search for \"SQL: .*yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu\".  And copy-paste the line.">>}],
So far I have only literally found this...
[22:53:59] <Holger> If you just grep the log for "SQL:", is there anything?
[22:54:45] <Holger> Does `select count(*) from archive where username='yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu';` increase if you send new messages to the room?
[22:54:49] <erebion_muc> Apr 21 22:49:38 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]: 2026-04-21 22:49:38.657 [debug] SQL: "SELECT  timestamp, xml, peer, kind, nick FROM archive WHERE username='yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu' and server_host='erebion.eu' ORDER BY timestamp ASC  limit 51;"
Apr 21 22:49:38 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]: 2026-04-21 22:49:38.688 [debug] SQL: "SELECT COUNT(*) FROM archive WHERE  username='yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu' and server_host='erebion.eu';"
[22:55:09] <erebion_muc> > Does `select count(*) from archive where username='yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu';` increase if you send new messages to the room?
yes
[22:55:44] <erebion_muc> Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]: 2026-04-21 22:50:26.456 [debug] SQL: "SELECT  timestamp, xml, peer, kind, nick FROM archive WHERE username='yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu' and server_host='erebion.eu' ORDER BY timestamp ASC  limit 51;"
Apr 21 22:50:26 erebion.eu ejabberdctl[2709043]: 2026-04-21 22:50:26.458 [debug] SQL: "SELECT COUNT(*) FROM archive WHERE  username='yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu' and server_host='erebion.eu';"

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[22:56:24] <Holger> If you copy-paste that query into `mysql`: `SELECT timestamp, xml, peer, kind, nick FROM archive WHERE username='yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu' and server_host='erebion.eu' ORDER BY timestamp ASC limit 51;"`
[22:56:27] <Holger> Do you get output?

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[22:57:17] <erebion_muc> ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MariaDB server version for the right syntax to use near 'SELECT timestamp, xml, peer, kind, nick FROM archive WHERE username='yamusu...' at line 1
[22:57:22] <erebion_muc> that's what I get

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[22:57:54] <Holger> `describe archive;`
[22:58:19] <erebion_muc> MariaDB [ejabberd]> SELECT timestamp,xml,peer,kind,nick FROM archive WHERE username='yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu' and server_host='erebion.eu';
Empty set (0.019 sec)
MariaDB [ejabberd]>
[22:58:32] <erebion_muc> Probably because it cannot sort something empty?

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[23:00:26] <erebion_muc> just first
[23:00:31] <erebion_muc> ```
MariaDB [ejabberd]> select count(*) from archive where username='yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu';
+----------+
| count(*) |
+----------+
| 289 |
+----------+
1 row in set (7.888 sec)
MariaDB [ejabberd]> select count(*) from archive where username='yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu' and server_host='erebion.eu';
+----------+
| count(*) |
+----------+
| 0 |
+----------+
1 row in set (0.040 sec)
MariaDB [ejabberd]>
```

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[23:01:26] <Holger> That's the issue. So then either the room isn't associated to the XMPP domain 'erebion.eu' in your ejabberd.yml. Or you switched back and forth between the single/multihost schemas in some ways.

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[23:01:57] <Holger> Actually the room _is_ associated to that host in the ejabberd.yml, else ejabberd wouldn't issue the SQL query that way.
[23:02:25] <erebion_muc> I don't think I switched, at least not consciously. Maybe I did something wrong, idk.
[23:02:37] <Holger> `select server_host from archive where username='yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu' limit 1;`
[23:02:40] <erebion_muc> Can we fix that by throwing MUC MAM away?

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[23:03:06] <erebion_muc> I don't mind losing anything if it means it is fixed

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[23:03:47] <erebion_muc> ```
MariaDB [ejabberd]> select server_host from archive where username='yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu' limit 1;
+---------------------+
| server_host |
+---------------------+
| ejabberd.erebion.eu |
+---------------------+
1 row in set (6.285 sec)
MariaDB [ejabberd]>
```
Weird
[23:04:02] <erebion_muc> That's the second domain I use just for testing the Matrix GW

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[23:05:19] <erebion_muc> That looks pretty wrong, I know that domain is not used for that chat
[23:05:38] <Holger> mod_muc: host: tardis.erebion.eu

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[23:05:50] <erebion_muc> yes
[23:05:59] <Holger> So you hard-coded the MUC domain for all your XMPP hosts.
[23:06:07] <erebion_muc> yes
[23:06:25] <erebion_muc> I only need it for one of my domains

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[23:06:51] <erebion_muc> I don't think I even use MUC with any of my ejabberd.erebion.eu accounts
[23:06:54] <Holger> Which means there's no way for ejabberd to map yamusuda@tardis.erebion.eu to a MUC domain.
[23:07:08] <Holger> To an XMPP domain, I mean.
[23:07:15] <erebion_muc> Which would be the proper way..?

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[23:07:48] <erebion_muc> I only want to use tardis.erebion.eu
[23:07:56] <erebion_muc> I don't want multiple MUC domains
[23:08:07] <stratself> you can only have one muc domain per virtualhost config?
[23:08:10] <Holger> If you don't want to offer mod_muc for ejabberd.erebion.eu, then you should move the mod_muc config to an append_host_config_block.
[23:08:34] <Holger> stratself: Usually you'd go "host: group.@HOST@" or something.
[23:08:37] <erebion_muc> I don't use it, but I'm fine with offering it
[23:08:39] <Holger> That's the default.
[23:09:00] <erebion_muc> Maybe I'll use it later
[23:09:22] <Holger> erebion_muc: The alternative is "host: tardis.@HOST@".  (Assuming "tardis" is kinda meant to be the subdomain name of group chats.)
[23:09:34] <stratself> > stratself: Usually you'd go "host: group.@HOST@" or something.
well if they need to belong to a single host then i'll just remove mod_muc from the second host
[23:09:35] <erebion_muc> I think I had it in append_host_config
[23:09:49] <Holger> I hope that's enough to get you going; the docs have an example for `append_host_config`.  Wanted to go to bed an hour ago :-)
[23:09:49] <erebion_muc> > erebion_muc: The alternative is "host: tardis.@HOST@".  (Assuming "tardis" is kinda meant to be the subdomain name of group chats.)
But I want ejabberd.erebion.eu to use tardis.erebion.eu as MUC
[23:09:58] <erebion_muc> just as erebion.eu uses tardis.erebion.eu as MUC

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[23:10:12] <erebion_muc> > I hope that's enough to get you going; the docs have an example for `append_host_config`. Wanted to go to bed an hour ago :-)
same :)
[23:10:24] <erebion_muc> Thank you for the late night debugging session!
[23:10:50] <Holger> With `append_host_config` you can still allow users from other domains, such as ejabberd.erebion.eu, to join or create rooms.

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[23:11:22] <Holger> If you want their clients to choose tardis.erebion.eu as the default MUC domain, you need some magical mod_disco config on top.
[23:11:31] <Holger> But I'm AFK, see ya.

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[23:27:38] <erebion_muc> o/

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[23:38:07] <erebion_muc> $ ejabberdctl reload-config
Error: error
Error: "Invalid value of option modules: Duplicated option: mod_muc"
I wish I could just overwrite a default setting with `append_host_config` and not having to remove it from `modules`

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