ejabberd - Wednesday, April 22, 2026

[03:45:45] <ChatLux> > I wish I could just overwrite a default setting with `append_host_config` and not having to remove it from `modules
Hi, this is an interesting remarks but ...
--> if you think about it one or two seconds or minutes maybe, do you imagine how it would be impossible, complex or a nightmare to maintain and manage any config if a such overwrite was the case ? And worst how the ejabberd service should do to pickup the "right config" if this "right config" is overwritten in different way without being explicitly indicate for each hostname ?
The rule is :
ONE module per hostname at ejabberd level.
If you define "mod_muc" at global level the definition you gave to the module will be apply to ALL the hostname declared at the top of your global file.
If you define "mod_muc" at "append_host_config" then the characteristics you define will be apply ONLY to the single host declared into this "append_host_config" AND you MUST define the module into append_host_config for each other hostnames declared if you need it for them.
Off course to understand the logic behind this organization you have to deal with several hostnames. It helps to visualize the concept of this trivial dichotomy.
Imagine a situation with 100 hostames some with MUC persistant and some without. If host1, host23, host45, host 87 each with their own characteristics defined into append_host_config" override a global def like you suggest, how the other hostname should pickup for their own config ? ( hazard, the way of the wind, sometime overwritten from host45, sometime overwritten from host23, something else ?!?)
The logic is that dev implement stuff to avoid hazard with the goal to have NO interpretation error done by a program.
So I invite you to keep in mind the following concept even if it look like not natural for you:
"ONE hostname imply ONE place to define a module."
If for any reason for ONE hostname you need to use 'append_host_config' then you will have to use it for the other hostname for this particular module or several you decide to extract from the global config file.to the "append part".
I agree that is "complex" to deal with if you manage a single host with single domaine since with a single domain in general questions are absent. But even if it is the case if each time you implement a config instead of doing it for a single domaine, do it for 2 ; it will helps you to reason the right way for now AND for the future you mention in your exchange during this debugging party.
By reasoning it will help you to avoid VERY dangerous "module overwriting concept" you mention like if you are surprised that NO overwritting happend in your case.
In fact the one surprised are the one like me who are wondering from where a such overwritting concept can appear since on logical point of view there is no reason to apply overwriting at a such place for a such component.
If you could develop the logical approach you have in mind with this overwritting concept it could maybe helps to identify why some clear concept for some seams dark for others.
Something tell me it will help several at the documentation level.
Hope it helps.

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[08:21:21] <erebion_muc> Anyway, it is far too complicated currently to set just a host name differently if I have to repeat the complete module configuration for each virtual host.

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[08:21:51] <erebion_muc> And then there's the issue of MAM silently failing if I define just one, which is definitely not ideal.

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[08:24:20] <erebion_muc> ```
mod_mam:
  ##   ## Mnesia is limited to 2GB, better to use an SQL backend
  ##   ## For small servers SQLite is a good fit and is very easy
  ##   ## to configure. Uncomment this when you have SQL configured:
    db_type: sql
    cache_life_time: 240d
    default: always
    assume_mam_usage: true
```
Docs are not entirely clear. What is the cache for MAM? Is that the message storage? What effect do different values have?
>cache_life_time: timeout()
>Same as top-level cache_life_time option, but applied to this module only.
Top level option:
>cache_life_time
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>timeout()
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>The time of a cached item to keep in cache. Once it’s expired, the corresponding item is erased from cache. The default value is 1 hour. Several modules have a similar option; and some core ejabberd parts support similar options too, see auth_cache_life_time, oauth_cache_life_time, router_cache_life_time, and sm_cache_life_time.
Are there any hints anywhere on how I would choose a suitable value or how I would know that my values are fine... or not?

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[14:43:04] <admin_cbt> Ok, I captured the debug log while account carlo@chatterboxtown.us cycled logging in and getting disconnected at least 4 times. This is the full log of that time frame. I didn't find my password in the capture so I'm hoping no other user's passwords are in this. The error.log was empty.
https://chatterboxtown.us:5443/upload/124c5199260f6e2f6f5af33386cdb58152e1f58c/W0RcwTbvwAknPikT1QEqcVOsHEfWEHtTCFZwARgK/login_cycle_ejabberd.log

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[15:36:13] <MattJ> admin_cbt, it's still best not to post debug logs publicly. Passwords aren't the only sensitive thing. And if any client used PLAIN, the password could be base64-encoded which is trivially decoded.

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[15:44:34] <Mickaël> > ejabberd@conference.process-one.net/MattJ wrote:
> admin_cbt, it's still best not to post debug logs publicly. Passwords aren't the only sensitive thing. And if any client used PLAIN, the password could be base64-encoded which is trivially decoded.
👍

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[16:01:06] <admin_cbt> Ok. Thanks.
[16:01:07] <prefiks> admin_cbt: all terminates here were caused by socket getting close, so nothing unusual. But there is quite a bit of authentication failures with "Invalid channel binding" - this is caused by clients not using -PLUS auth mechanism but telling in sasl data they wanted to used -PLUS but were not offered one

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[16:05:26] <prefiks> which works a bit strange as we didn't present auth methods yet when we received authentication request that is failing (we send stanza that tells starttls is required, client do starttls, and then after finishing immediatelly sends sasl2 auth, without waiting for advertised methods)

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[16:07:38] <prefiks> i guess this is why it is not trying -PLUS, but also not sure how we can make it work better

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[16:10:15] <admin_cbt> Thanks for the info. Deleting the account from the app and logging back in, didn't work. Deleting the account from the server, not the app...didn't work. Can't even restore backup. Seems the only way I could clear the problem was to delete the account from the server and the app and just start over. I've had a couple users report the same issue <sigh>. Hate telling users to lose everything.

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[16:16:12] <zoidberg> maybe disable "require channel binding" on conversations?

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[16:16:26] <zoidberg> Just guessing out. If i may.

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[16:17:57] <zoidberg> And require tls 1.3 too just to see what happens.

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[16:18:10] <zoidberg> And disable require tls 1.3 too just to see what happens.

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[16:19:38] <prefiks> that's not the case for carlo user (it authenticates with -PLUS), but there attempts from different users that have this issue

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[17:29:09] <starkzarn> Haha. Thank you. I just realized that DNS bit me though and that went through the production prosody server not my ejabberd dev instance 🫠

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[18:28:40] <admin_cbt> If installed from the official repo, where does ejabberd store the web registration page?

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[18:59:41] <badlop> mod_register_web generates the page at runtime when serving it; it is not stored on disk

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[19:01:32] <badlop> and that page links to a static file, register.css, do you refer to that?

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[19:19:05] <admin_cbt> Was hoping to change some wording move a text box, but it sounds like that's in the source code of mod_register_w_eb_

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[22:47:25] <admin_cbt> What does a get_last status of NOT FOUND mean? The timestamp updates like the user is online.

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[22:58:44] <badlop> not found information about last activity for that account, probably because the account does not exist

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[22:59:40] <badlop> four examples:
2026-04-22T22:57:54.585868Z     NOT FOUND <-- account does not exist
2026-04-22T22:54:35Z    Registered but didn't login
2026-04-22T22:57:46.411339Z     ONLINE
2026-04-22T22:57:33Z    Stream reset by peer <-- exists, was connected and then disconnected

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[23:03:00] <admin_cbt> Ok. Thanks.

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