ejabberd - Wednesday, September 9, 2026

[01:23:08] <daltux> my initial intention was to deal with the strings related to invitations. however, from what I saw while doing it, I think we'll have to eventually double check other strings already translated

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[20:53:27] <Greatsword> hi, I think i discovered a bug or oversight with ejabberd version 26.7.0
i was doing an experiment to simulate a server running out of storage by seeing what happens when ejabberd is made to use an sqlite3 database it can read to but cannot write to, specifically i just copied my current database while ejabberd was turned off, made the copy owned by `root:ejabberd` and set the mode so that the user and group may read the database but not write to it, changed ejabberd's configuration to use the database copy, and then ran it
to my delight, the server still worked and allowed me to log in, which is nice to see, but obviously this meant that when i would send or get messages, they would not be written to the archive

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[20:54:31] <moparisthebest> isn't that preferable to not working at all ?

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[20:54:50] <Greatsword> however, the issue arose when I tried sending a message to an offline user, i wasn't sent a `<service-unavailable>` error!
[20:55:03] <Greatsword> so, I wouldn't be able to know if my message was sent to the void or not

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[20:55:44] <Greatsword> > For a message stanza of type "normal" or "chat", the server SHOULD
> either (a) add the message to offline storage or (b) return a stanza
> error to the sender, which SHOULD be <service-unavailable/>.
- RFC6121 § 8.5.2.2.1

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[20:56:56] <Greatsword> I see that it's a SHOULD, not a MUST
is this an intentional design decision of ejabberd? and to be clear, when i tried this, the logs did show that the server knew that it was failing to write to the database

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[21:31:55] <moparisthebest> > so, I wouldn't be able to know if my message was sent to the void or not
I mean that's still true even if it was added to storage right? they might never log back in

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[21:32:10] <moparisthebest> or might not exist

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[21:34:42] <Greatsword> the RFC makes it clear that if it goes to an existing user and it doesn't go to an offline queue, then it should send <service-unavailable>

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[21:36:17] <moparisthebest> I agree, I was just pointing out that's not the same as letting you know whether it went into the void or not

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[21:38:29] <Greatsword> that's a little pedantic..
[21:38:51] <moparisthebest> > that's a little pedantic..
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