Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Thursday, September 6, 2018< ^ >
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[05:44:00] <zinid> rom1dep,
> lxqt
Damn, I forgot to check out lxde/lxqt
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[09:23:39] <Licaon_Kter> So zinid Jackal is good enough already?
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[09:26:10] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, no
[09:26:19] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, it's lacking a lot from compliance suite
[09:26:44] <zinid> it's quite fast, but lagging on roster-gets and generates errors
[09:26:50] <zinid> so definitely not production ready
[09:27:21] <zinid> also starttls is hardcoded, so you cannot offload TLS
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[09:28:46] <zinid> there are also bugs in presence routing
[09:30:06] <Holger> Oh you tested it.
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[09:37:31] <daniel> So you are saying that writing an xmpp server from scratch is not easy?
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[09:37:40] <daniel> That's quite surprising
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[09:42:11] <zinid> daniel: I think the same holds for clients?
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[09:54:28] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: is it because it uses XML? 🤔
/jk
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[10:35:52] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, definitely, it should have been *JSON*
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[12:39:20] <zinid> https://www.packtpub.com/networking-and-servers/practical-xmpp
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[12:39:47] <zinid> so I looked into it briefly and I liked how the author pretended ejabberd doesn't exist :)
[12:40:05] <zinid> he mentioned mongoose im which is "forked from previous xmpp server"
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[12:55:23] <zuglufttier> He didn't lie, did he?
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[12:55:45] <zinid> he didn't
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[16:35:40] <Holger> zinid: I'd like to fix PEP notifications from offline users.  I think we need two in-memory tables: (1) a 'FullJID => CapsHash' map (global per node) and (2) 'PepNode => FullSubscriberJIDs'.  (The CapsHashes can then be ditched from the c2s state.)
[16:35:55] <Holger> Question is, where to put the tables.
[16:36:19] <zinid> should we share them accross the cluster?
[16:36:50] <Holger> (1) could be per node, no need to sync accross the cluster.  (2) should be shared.
[16:37:03] <Holger> You don't want a mod_caps process for holding (1) right?
[16:37:10] <zinid> right
[16:37:21] <Holger> IIRC you had that in the past and were concerned about it being a bottle-neck.
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[16:37:54] <Holger> So what else (for 1)?  Some ETS table?  Or Mnesia/Redis/SQL?
[16:38:02] <zinid> yeah, but we somewhat learned to manage this shit now
[16:38:13] <zinid> ets for first table yes
[16:38:17] <zinid> mnesia for the 2nd
[16:39:01] <zinid> implement it for mnesia, I will add other backends (with cache) later
[16:42:36] <Holger> Cool.
[16:43:29] <Holger> Heh, where would I put the Mnesia code, we have node_flat.erl for Mnesia storage and node_flat_sql.erl for SQL.  node_flat_mnesia.erl and node_flat_sql_mnesia.erl? :-)
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[16:44:48] <zinid> lol
[16:45:05] <zinid> cannot say, I don't even know that code, sorry
[16:45:21] <Holger> I feard so :-)
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[16:47:26] <Holger> "Where to put the code" is probably the hardest part of the problem :-)  I'll think about it.
[16:47:50] <zinid> yeah, pubsub doesn't follow the convention
[16:47:59] <zinid> there is even a hack in ejabberd_config for it
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[16:48:44] <Holger> Yup.
[16:50:58] <zinid> https://twitter.com/mikeal/status/1037497818213044225
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[16:51:44] <Holger> Hah.
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[16:52:56] <zinid> I wonder if this will be eventually resolved
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