ejabberd - Friday, October 10, 2025

[00:07:46] <moparisthebest> > I think s2s can't do ALPN, so you can use different hostname on 443 with DNS record and SNI.
mm: huh? both s2s and c2s have ALPN I'm not sure what you mean

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[00:08:42] <moparisthebest> > I'd be curious to whether ALPN on same hostname is enough of a distinction between http/1.1 + h2 / xmpp-client / xmpp-server. Though I suspect different reverse proxies may behave weirdly because alpn routing isnt as common as sni
yes it is, I've been doing this with sslh for... Over a decade now? Yikes...

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[02:39:13] <ycnzo> thanks for the answers. I'd like to have another question. What exactly does `s2s_use_starttls: false` actually do? Does it mean all outbound s2s connections have to be direct tls now?
and why is that the default considering "historical reasons"?

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[03:54:00] <zoidberg> Does s2s_use_starttls: false means that connection have to be dtls? = No, it means that they can also be in plain now(with no starttls)

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[03:55:18] <zoidberg> If you dont want to use start tls just comment out the listener for the starttls, and leave the listener for dtls(which is the one with the setting 'tls : true'

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[03:56:14] <zoidberg> That being said, your server will become less compatible. There may be servers running that only support starttls and so on...

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[03:59:52] <ycnzo> that's... kinda weird. There's no way to completely disable *outbound* starttls and plain text?
for *inbound* s2s i'm aware it's just a matter of configuring the listeners

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[04:04:43] <zoidberg> IIRC there is a setting that can choose the port for outgoing but i dont remember if its possible(or needed)to specify that it needs to be Dtls. It works for me anyways, my servers are set to use S2S with Dtls only. And they work just finex

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[04:05:49] <ycnzo> that's... kinda weird. There's no way to completely disable *outbound* starttls and plain text? I thought s2s_use_starttls is referring to outbound connections
for *inbound* s2s i'm aware it's just a matter of configuring the listeners

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[05:01:23] <ycnzo> hmm, I'll wait for someone from processone to confirm what that value really means.
If it's possible, I'd like to request a feature to enable only Direct TLS for outbound s2s conns

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[08:44:15] <marc0s> hi, is there any function I can call from a module to add one single bookmark for a user (to existing ones)? thanks

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[08:58:51] <marc0s> i see get_data/set_data in mod_private.erl but I assume they just get/set the whole private data

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[09:07:35] <Holger> ycnzo: There's currently no option for that.

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[09:09:12] <Holger> ycnzo: Until very recently, STARTTLS was the only way to encrypt das connections. It's probably still the only thing supported by the majority of servers in the wild. So there was no interest in such an option so far.
[09:09:21] <Holger> ycnzo: Until very recently, STARTTLS was the only way to encrypt s2s connections. It's probably still the only thing supported by the majority of servers in the wild. So there was no interest in such an option so far.

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[09:13:21] <Holger> ycnzo:
> hmm, I'll wait for someone from processone to confirm what that value really means.
I'm not from ProcessOne but the option controls whether TLS is disabled, enabled, or enforced (for s2s). It doesn't distinguish between STARTTLS and direct TLS and has that name because direct TLS didn't exist until recently.

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[09:15:42] <Holger> Basically an example of XMPP being about interop/compatibility.

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[11:09:09] <ycnzo> Holger: thanks for the confirmation. If so, I'll set it to `required` for maximum encryption, and hope that and tls on the listen modules guarantees no plain text s2s transfers to and from

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[11:11:40] <ycnzo> tbh I'd prefer a saner default e.g. `true`, and update the docs/rename the var to reflect direct tls support
but I guess this just comes to show how old xmpp is, xep-0368 was only standardized in 2019

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[11:13:26] <MattJ> No?

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[11:14:14] <MattJ> It was submitted in 2015, moved out of experimental in 2017

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[11:15:34] <MattJ> So it's been around for ~~10 years, and I suspect some people were doing it before then in non-standard ways (but the ecosystem is still very much starttls for federation)

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[11:17:01] <ycnzo> ah I see, I think I was just reading the latest version

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[11:19:25] <MattJ> For a bit more history, enforced TLS on s2s began around 2013 for most of the ecosystem (some had already made the switch earlier, but it took a bit of a push because enforcing TLS on s2s meant cutting off Google Talk, which never implemented TLS for federation)

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[11:24:49] <ycnzo> seems like that coincides with rfc7590 (2015)? which I think stated that starttls should not be dropped in any circumstance

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[11:25:30] <ycnzo> seems like that coincides with rfc7590 (2015)? which I think stated that starttls shall not be dropped in any circumstance

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[11:30:44] <MattJ> Yes (it started with https://github.com/stpeter/manifesto )

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[11:46:22] <Holger> > It was submitted in 2015, moved out of experimental in 2017
Yes but I think the main motivation was to do direct TLS on c2s (on 443) to circumvent stupid firewalls. Direct TLS support for s2s is still far from ubiquitous.

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[11:48:50] <Holger> > tbh I'd prefer a saner default e.g. `true`, and update the docs/rename the var to reflect direct tls support
>
> but I guess this just comes to show how old xmpp is, xep-0368 was only standardized in 2019
Yeah actually `required` would be a sane default these days. Not sure there's still a real reason to stick to `false`.

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[11:52:41] <zoidberg> Old me already did it on my servers(just checked). But there is `required` on one server and `required_trust` on the other
[11:52:55] <zoidberg> younger me already did it on my servers(just checked). But there is `required` on one server and `required_trust` on the other
[11:54:23] <zoidberg> required probably will work with self signed certs? And required trust will work only with "legit" ones?
[11:55:10] <Holger> Yes required_trusted disabled Dialback in the past, these days you'd just disable mod_s2s_dialback to get the same effect.
[11:55:15] <Holger> ```
    ?WARNING_MSG("The value 'required_trusted' of option "
                 "'s2s_use_starttls' is deprecated and was "
                 "automatically replaced with value 'required'. "
                 "The module 'mod_s2s_dialback' has also "
                 "been automatically removed from the configuration. ~~ts",
                 [adjust_hint()]),
```

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[12:00:33] <ycnzo> do I need dialback and bidir these days? i'm not sure what they do

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[12:02:01] <Holger> If you enable Dialback, it's used as fallback in case your server doesn't accept the remote server's certificate. Dialback tries to verify the remote server's authenticity by connecting back to the domain; i.e., you'd trust DNS.

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[12:02:55] <Holger> BiDi uses a single TCP connection for incoming and outgoing traffic, rather than seperate connections. I'd recommend against enabling that.

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[12:03:51] <ycnzo> yea, trusting dns would problematic. But it could make for a case of DANE if all else is implemented correctly

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[12:04:05] <Holger> The resources you save that way are negligible, and the cost is that you might run into issues.
[12:04:33] <Holger> > yea, trusting dns would problematic. But it could make for a case of DANE if all else is implemented correctly
Yes DANE would be cool if everyone did it. That's what everyone thinks so noone does.
[12:04:39] <Holger> Well not quite 🙂

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[12:06:53] <Holger> Dialback is not an advanced mechanism but a fallback. If you'd prefer s2s to fail if the peer doesn't offer a valid cert, disable it. Most servers offer valid certs these days, most of the time 🙂

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[12:07:34] <ycnzo> got it. I was thinking the same as well

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[12:08:48] <ycnzo> would you say most servers support tls 1.3 these days? I plan to drop all 1.2 and below in the `protocol_options`
[12:09:07] <Holger> "most" probably. Whatever that means 🙂
[12:09:10] <Holger> I have no percentage.

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[12:09:44] <ycnzo> > I have no percentage.
welp, I'll just find out mine hahah

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[12:11:18] <Holger> Personally I don't enforce such strict settings on large-ish servers, my trade-offs are more towards interop. I.e. I don't want to break communication just because s2s is via TLSv1.2. The attack vectors don't seem dramatic in my book, the MITM that manages to attack v1.2 will probably fail at attacking OMEMO. But there's no right or wrong with trade-offs.

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[12:14:13] <Holger> And of course not all XMPP data is (OMEMO-)encrypted, so the reality is more complicated.

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[12:19:03] <MattJ> ycnzo, personally I would recommend disabling dialback. Most servers are fine without it, and I consider it a legacy thing that should go away. DANE can be done without dialback anyway.
[12:20:01] <zoidberg> > I have no percentage.
you have no percentage?
[12:20:41] <Holger> >
> Yeah actually `required` would be a sane default these days.  Not sure there's still a real reason to stick to `false`.
Mickaël, do you have an opinion?  I'd think we no longer run into problems with enforcing TLS on s2s these days.  Last servers I remember that didn't support that were Google's and Cisco's, many years ago 🙂
[12:20:57] <Holger> We could ditch `s2s_use_starttls: optional` from your example ejabberd.yml, one line less!
[12:21:08] <MattJ> I just did a test of one server with a lot of s2s, and here are the stats:
     98 TLSv1.2
   2117 TLSv1.3

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[12:22:05] <Holger> We could ditch `s2s_use_starttls: optional` from our example ejabberd.yml, one line less!

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[12:23:26] <ycnzo> Mattj, many thanks for the test. Thats nice to keep in mind as a rough calculation

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[12:24:50] <ycnzo> and thanks Holger et al for your advices and insights, too

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[12:26:25] <ycnzo> by the way, are websockets the new replacement for BOSH?
[12:26:36] <MattJ> Yes

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[12:27:57] <MattJ> Some years ago it was recommended to have both, as websockets were blocked by some firewalls. But I don't *think* that is the case these days (firewalls allow them and browsers are better at getting them through). Would be interested if there is any stats on that though :)

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[12:39:01] <egnun> Hello ejabberd folks,
I am currently trying to get the Elixir examples to work.
https://www.process-one.net/blog/elixir-sips-ejabberd-with-elixir-part-1/
I know, I have to use the template from the Git repo instead.
But when I try to expand the example with this line from the blogpost,
    info(inspect(:xml.get_subtag(packet, "show")))
recompile and excecute again, I only get something like "function xml:get_subtag not found"
[12:41:13] <egnun> And if I change it to ":xmpp.get_subtag…" I it seems to find the function, but it throws me this error instead:
** exception error: bad argument
   in function  xmpp_codec_external:lookup/1
      called as xmpp_codec_external:lookup(<<"show">>)
[…]

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[15:13:54] <prefiks> yeah, interface changed a bit since when this was written, xml data is now parsed into erlang records, so you don't really access that by looking at xml structure

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[15:14:55] <prefiks> in erlang you would match that against #presence{show = Show} and use Show from that

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[15:15:50] <prefiks> probably doable in elixir too, but not sure if we have code that export those records to be used straight from elixir

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[15:28:30] <Holger> ```
  require Record
  Record.defrecord :presence,
    from_hrl: Path.join(:code.lib_dir(:xmpp), "include/xmpp.hrl")
  def f(presence(show: show)) do
    show
  end
```
Something like that maybe?
[15:28:53] <Holger> (Assuming we don't export the xmpp.hrl stuff properly to Elixir.)

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[22:29:50] <Bilo> > Bilo, Bilo:
Licaon_Kter:

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[22:35:51] <moparisthebest> >> It was submitted in 2015, moved out of experimental in 2017
>
> Yes but I think the main motivation was to do direct TLS on c2s (on 443) to circumvent stupid firewalls. Direct TLS support for s2s is still far from ubiquitous.
is it? iirc ejabberd and prosody have supported s2s direct TLS so long they both have support in Debian stable

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